Yes, many, many women do view themselves as ornaments first. And if my daughter grows up to believe that about herself and/or my sons to find that the only attractive look on a woman (assuming they're heterosexual), I will have considered that a major parenting fail. |
Dp. It's not that small is the goal, it's more not wanting to look large. |
Nice. Everyone who disagrees with you simply MUST view themselves as an ornament. |
Or you could stick to weights that you can lift 8-12 times as strength training so you don't experience as many injuries in endurance sports, or any number of other reasons. Not everyone finds lifting weights and being massively strong to be their ideal form of exercise, regardless of what it does to your body. |
No, but choosing your workouts based primarily on how they make you look, rather than how they make you feel and what they allow you to do, is placing a hell of a lot more priority on looks than I want my kids to do (and than I do myself). |
DP. Unless you're some sort of olympic athlete or professional, performance isn't going to matter much in life. Looks, however, will get you far. |
There are obviously differences in my strength and muscle tone when lifting, but they aren't massively dramatic, especially when clothed and some of the muscle definition in my legs, for example comes from other activities as well, like trail running up steep hills. And I don't need to buy new clothes because my shoulders are popping out of old shirts and jackets like other PPs reported. Look, I think it's great if women want to be super strong. I don't mean to perpetuate this idea that women can't be beautiful and strong. I just don't really like lifting massive amounts of weight as much as I like distance running, I don't have a body type that leads to packing on muscle all that easily, and I prefer challenging my body physically in other ways. But I do lift 1-2x a week doing mostly compound lifts like squats and deadlifts. I don't find it changes my body as much as other PPs report. I also often lift less weight and do more reps, because my goal is to not have such severe DOMS that I can't continue my running training, especially if I'm training for a race. Maybe being leaner adheres to more sell out ideas of feminine beauty, but it's also necessary to get better at distance running. But it doesn't mean that you can't lift to the degree that you get the benefits of improved bone density, improved joint strength, and a general increase of athleticism. |
First, let's dispense with the lie that looking good isn't important to people. It is. I know it offends you but it's the truth. Second, do whatever you want with your self and your kids, no one wants to mess with your life. Third, as mentioned, very few women are motivated by being able to lift as much as they possibly can. It just isn't a priority. Ask others if you don't believe me. It should also be mentioned that gymnasts and figure skaters can do things you can't do, so performance has many facets. |
a few years ago I began a program lifting progressively heavier weights + cross fit.
The biggest change to my physique were the constant injuries. I still have shoulder impingement when I try to lift too much or rock climb. I'm getting the benefits I most seek from a moderate program of lifting some weight, but not trying to put on a ton of muscle. |
I'm the 15:04 poster - I look beefier now than I did when I started lifting because 14-15 years have gone by. In that 14 years, I've turned 35, 40 and 45 and my metabolism has dropped a bit so I'm heavier now by about 15 lbs. My thyroid isn't functioning like it did in my 30's and I haven't medicated yet. I also had a baby at 36 - after that, I went from having a 4-pack to having some definition on the sides but very little elsewhere. I'm running 1,100 miles a year instead of maybe 1,500.
I definitely look better at 45 than I would if I didn't lift. I definitely look better than most of the same-age people I know and many of the younger folks. But I don't look as good as I did when I was 35 and lifting the same, pre-baby, pre-metabolism drops. And I'm not willing to diet like crazy to get back to my 35-year-old body, even if I could. |
Yeah the injuries were from cross fit. Cross fit is awful. Massively dynamic movements with heavy weights at insane reps. Death trap. |