Wakefield sounds pretty great. |
If you like a school that has low SOL scores, low SAT scores, and an otherwise dismal academic profile. |
How do you even come to this conclusion? If anything, it was the previous way Great Schools rated schools that told everyone where all the ESOL kids go to school. Now that previously "high performing" schools' rankings have been adjusted downwards in accordance with how well they educate the less affluent among their ranks, it's actually harder to tell which schools are browner. So no, schools will not "get poorer and more segregated" as a" result of these scores." |
Interesting. The real question is, what is wrong with you that you read any anger at all from my post? I'm not angry. I do wonder at the hypocrisy of the Liberals to vote so liberally about illegal immigration policies but then feel dismay that their housing prices should be affected. Let me guess - it's only the poorer districts that should be burdened with ESOL, right? You paid a premium for your house to avoid all the Brown People, and so this Great Schools rating change is really unfair? |
Out of curiosity what is an acceptable average SAT score for a high school to have, in your opinion? |
I am not the poster you are arguing with. I am at a school that scored well, both general.test scores and on the diversity rating that shows how well the school spouses the achievement gap. Have you looked at how the data is displayed on the new great schools? The data is definitely displayed and calculated in a way that makes it seem that poor minority ESOL Hispanic kids are bringing down the school. It makes it appear that even a small percentage of these kids (5-10%) will bring down your school rankings and housing values, even if these kids are scoring far above their average demographic score in the state. It makes it appear that the only way to avoid poor ESOL kids bringing down your school and property values is to buy in a homogenous pyramid like Langley where there are no measurable ESOL or poor students. The new system shows two things: how the entire student body performs in relation to the state (including those ESOL students') scores AND a second score where the small group of ESOL students scores pulls down the school ranking, in most cases significantly, even if those ESOL kids are scoring 10 to 20 points higher than their demographic when compared to the rest of the state. The weight that great schools has put on this one demographic of students (counting them twice) and using this one demographic to weigh down scores (Even if this demographic is scoring far above the state average and above the average score for their demographic) is making it appear that this one demographic is harming schools and property values. The new system is flawed and racist. |
Yeah, well according to GS, they are doing EXACTLY that and rating your subpar school for doing worse at educating ESOL kids. Your school's score disparity between advantaged and disadvantaged students is weighed against the State average. Scores improve if your school shows improvement. https://www.greatschools.org/gk/ratings-methodology/ Admit it, you people are just mad your houses aren't selling for as high as you'd like. |
They can say what they like. Just look at the scores for the different HSes in Fairfax. Look at the total score, the equity score, and the test score/old score. The new methodology isn't doing what they say it is and it's unhelpful for families. |
Great schools metric is not doing this. If it did Langley would not have one of the highest equity scores in the entire region. |
The new system is flawed and racist? No, YOU, the rich urban moms and dads obsessed with GS ratings and your housing prices and buying to avoid the "Brown People" areas are racist. That you use GS ratings to discern where to buy does not mean that system is racist - it means YOU are. The new metric tells everyone in the area, including Hispanics, immigrants, illegal immigrants, poor people, as well as yourself, how well as school is doing at serving EACH of their student populations. Oh, I'm sorry, did your school's piss poor performance at educating immigrants just drag down your $1.7m house? Cry me a freakin river. |
NP stop arguing it's house prices. It's not. But see how much these homeowners are would like it if the county wanted more low income housing in their area now. It really would bring down scores. |
DP. No, the new metric doesn't. If it did, it would be useful, but that's not what it's doing. |
Really? Well, that's what the methodology report I linked just said. Please expound on why you think Langley would not have one of the equity scores in the entire region. |
Do you have your fingers in your ears and shaking your head as you say this? I gave you the link. Do you have something substantive to argue? |
Oh it is.
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