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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]all of you are just ticked because your property values are taking a hit

the scores actually reflect reality, a school is great if all students perform well not just high SES ones.  The achievement gap is a problem in this country and schools are now on notice to do something about it[/quote]

But thank god the rich Liberals are finally taking notice!

That being said, guys, why do you assume Greatschools should only serve you, native English, high SES people?

Maybe the new metric is better because[b] it tells lower income, ESOL families that your "high performing" Lilly White haven of a school isn't that great for ALL STUDENTS.[/b]

I get it though.  It's "flawed" because your English speaking, White, rich child could do great, despite the giant 5 on your house's Zillow page.
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And? It's not like the majority of lower income ESOL families can choose where they live. They live where they can afford, and that's largely going to be in a school zone with ALL the other low income kids in the region. STILL NOT DOING WELL, even in their "haven" away from those awful white rich kids.

[b]These scores won't tell anyone anything other than where the poor ESOL kids go to school,[/b] and as a consequence those schools will only get poorer and more segregated.

The achievement gap cannot be solved in segregated schools. NOT EVER. [/quote]

How do you even come to this conclusion?  If anything, it was the previous way Great Schools rated schools that told everyone where all the ESOL kids go to school.  Now that previously "high performing" schools' rankings have been adjusted downwards in accordance with how well they educate the less affluent among their ranks, it's actually harder to tell which schools are browner.

So no, schools will not "get poorer and more segregated" as a" result of these scores."[/quote]

I am not the poster you are arguing with.

I am at a school that scored well, both general.test scores and on the diversity rating that shows how well the school spouses the achievement gap.

Have you looked at how the data is displayed on the new great schools?

The data is definitely displayed and calculated in a way that makes it seem that poor minority ESOL Hispanic kids are bringing down the school.  It makes it appear that even a small percentage of these kids (5-10%) will bring down your school rankings and housing values, even if these kids are scoring far above their average demographic score in the state.  It makes it appear that the only way to avoid poor ESOL kids bringing down your school and property values is to buy in a homogenous pyramid like Langley where there are no measurable ESOL or poor students.

The new system shows two things: how the entire student body performs in relation to the state (including those ESOL students') scores AND a second score where the small group of ESOL students scores pulls down the school ranking, in most cases significantly, even if those ESOL kids are scoring 10 to 20 points higher than their demographic when compared to the rest of the state.

The weight that great schools has put on this one demographic of students (counting them twice) and using this one demographic to weigh down scores (Even if this demographic is scoring far above the state average and above the average score for their demographic) is [b]making it appear that this one demographic is harming schools and property values.[/b]

The new system is [b]flawed and racist.[/b][/quote]

[i]The new system is flawed and racist?[/i]  No, YOU, the rich urban moms and dads obsessed with GS ratings and your housing prices and buying to avoid the "Brown People" areas are racist.  That you use GS ratings to discern where to buy does not mean that system is racist - it means YOU are.

The new metric tells everyone in the area, including Hispanics, immigrants, illegal immigrants, poor people, as well as yourself, how well as school is doing at serving EACH of their student populations.

Oh, I'm sorry, did your school's piss poor performance at educating immigrants just drag down your $1.7m house?  Cry me a freakin river.

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