South Arlington elementary school boundary adjustments 2019

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Anonymous wrote:I know I'll get flamed but there is a difference in the type of families that move to HB, Henry areas than Abbingdon. Lots of Asians, East Asians, Mongolians in Henry and HB area. I live in Henry district and see them at the park. Talking to the parents they say they moved specifically into these districts for the diversity and high ranked elementary schools. These families may stay or may move to different apartments for middle school, high school. They are not the families clustered around the west end of the pike.

I'm not as knowledgeable about Henry's demographics. But from what I've seen, Abingdon draws from the Fairlington, Claremont & Columbia Forest neighborhoods. That's a good chunk of middle class families in townhouses and nice SFH's. Doesn't seem radically different than Patrick Henry, although Abingdon itself is a lot more crowded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On the subject of Drew, are there stats available for the traditional vs. Montessori programs? Drew is around 55% FARMS, which I believe is the aggregate number for the whole school. If 2/3 of the slots for Montessori are reserved for low income, then that suggests the traditional program FARMS rate is lower, probably in the low 40s or high 30s. If that's the case, looks like the new Drew zone can be used to alleviate some of the demographic issues at Randolph. IIRC from a meeting last year, the plan is for Drew to take some of Oakridge's overcrowding, some of Hoffman Boston, and some kids from Randolph. I don't know if Hoffman Boston is overcrowded or not.

No, Drew is going to take kids primarily from Oakridge and Abingdon (the Abingdon area has been using Claremont as a neighborhood school, but without guaranteed admission to that school the boundary needs to be redrawn so that Abingdon doesn't get pummeled with increased enrollment. Randolph isn't overcrowded. If you live in that boundary, do not expect to be rezoned. It isn't going to happen. Though I do think some in Douglas Park who are currently zoned Henry aren't going to make the cut in the Fleet boundary. They're not walk zone to Fleet (or Henry for that matter), but are walk zone to Randolph and will likely get shifted there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know I'll get flamed but there is a difference in the type of families that move to HB, Henry areas than Abbingdon. Lots of Asians, East Asians, Mongolians in Henry and HB area. I live in Henry district and see them at the park. Talking to the parents they say they moved specifically into these districts for the diversity and high ranked elementary schools. These families may stay or may move to different apartments for middle school, high school. They are not the families clustered around the west end of the pike.

I'm not as knowledgeable about Henry's demographics. But from what I've seen, Abingdon draws from the Fairlington, Claremont & Columbia Forest neighborhoods. That's a good chunk of middle class families in townhouses and nice SFH's. Doesn't seem radically different than Patrick Henry, although Abingdon itself is a lot more crowded.

Again, those families are at Claremont, Montessori, ATS, or private. Not that many have stuck with the neighborhood school. I think the renovation helped more families feel comfortable with the neighborhood school, but not enough yet to mirror Henry's test scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On the subject of Drew, are there stats available for the traditional vs. Montessori programs? Drew is around 55% FARMS, which I believe is the aggregate number for the whole school. If 2/3 of the slots for Montessori are reserved for low income, then that suggests the traditional program FARMS rate is lower, probably in the low 40s or high 30s. If that's the case, looks like the new Drew zone can be used to alleviate some of the demographic issues at Randolph. IIRC from a meeting last year, the plan is for Drew to take some of Oakridge's overcrowding, some of Hoffman Boston, and some kids from Randolph. I don't know if Hoffman Boston is overcrowded or not.

No, Drew is going to take kids primarily from Oakridge and Abingdon (the Abingdon area has been using Claremont as a neighborhood school, but without guaranteed admission to that school the boundary needs to be redrawn so that Abingdon doesn't get pummeled with increased enrollment. Randolph isn't overcrowded. If you live in that boundary, do not expect to be rezoned. It isn't going to happen. Though I do think some in Douglas Park who are currently zoned Henry aren't going to make the cut in the Fleet boundary. They're not walk zone to Fleet (or Henry for that matter), but are walk zone to Randolph and will likely get shifted there.

Got it. Maybe I was misremembering Randolph for Abingdon. We are in the Drew boundary and don't expect to be rezoned. I just thought if the idea generally is to pull more kids into Drew because it will have the room now, maybe they'd try to pull Randolph's high FARMS rate down by redrawing some lines. I guess recent experience suggests they may not care.

Those Henry parents will go nuts, I predict.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know I'll get flamed but there is a difference in the type of families that move to HB, Henry areas than Abbingdon. Lots of Asians, East Asians, Mongolians in Henry and HB area. I live in Henry district and see them at the park. Talking to the parents they say they moved specifically into these districts for the diversity and high ranked elementary schools. These families may stay or may move to different apartments for middle school, high school. They are not the families clustered around the west end of the pike.

I think now that they're zoned Wakefiled for HS they will either move or get their kids into Arl Tech or transfer to W-L. I've heard that there's an uptick in Mongolian students in the Key/ASFS zone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know I'll get flamed but there is a difference in the type of families that move to HB, Henry areas than Abbingdon. Lots of Asians, East Asians, Mongolians in Henry and HB area. I live in Henry district and see them at the park. Talking to the parents they say they moved specifically into these districts for the diversity and high ranked elementary schools. These families may stay or may move to different apartments for middle school, high school. They are not the families clustered around the west end of the pike.

I'm not as knowledgeable about Henry's demographics. But from what I've seen, Abingdon draws from the Fairlington, Claremont & Columbia Forest neighborhoods. That's a good chunk of middle class families in townhouses and nice SFH's. Doesn't seem radically different than Patrick Henry, although Abingdon itself is a lot more crowded.

Again, those families are at Claremont, Montessori, ATS, or private. Not that many have stuck with the neighborhood school. I think the renovation helped more families feel comfortable with the neighborhood school, but not enough yet to mirror Henry's test scores.

I don't know, I mean we go to Claremont (zoned Drew) any we know a TON of families that go to Abingdon. They are all UMC. Abingdon seems very loved in that area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know I'll get flamed but there is a difference in the type of families that move to HB, Henry areas than Abbingdon. Lots of Asians, East Asians, Mongolians in Henry and HB area. I live in Henry district and see them at the park. Talking to the parents they say they moved specifically into these districts for the diversity and high ranked elementary schools. These families may stay or may move to different apartments for middle school, high school. They are not the families clustered around the west end of the pike.

I'm not as knowledgeable about Henry's demographics. But from what I've seen, Abingdon draws from the Fairlington, Claremont & Columbia Forest neighborhoods. That's a good chunk of middle class families in townhouses and nice SFH's. Doesn't seem radically different than Patrick Henry, although Abingdon itself is a lot more crowded.

Again, those families are at Claremont, Montessori, ATS, or private. Not that many have stuck with the neighborhood school. I think the renovation helped more families feel comfortable with the neighborhood school, but not enough yet to mirror Henry's test scores.

I don't know, I mean we go to Claremont (zoned Drew) any we know a TON of families that go to Abingdon. They are all UMC. Abingdon seems very loved in that area.

I don't live in that area, but I remember looking at the transfer reports a year or two back and there were a LOT of transfers out of Abingdon. So, I guess I don't know. I do think that the renovation made it a more attractive prospect in the very recent past. I don't think there's anything wrong at the school, but I do believe the most motivated families have opted out historically.

Anyway, demographic concerns are the LAST priority of the SB. So expect proximity to be the driving factor in the upcoming process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On the subject of Drew, are there stats available for the traditional vs. Montessori programs? Drew is around 55% FARMS, which I believe is the aggregate number for the whole school. If 2/3 of the slots for Montessori are reserved for low income, then that suggests the traditional program FARMS rate is lower, probably in the low 40s or high 30s. If that's the case, looks like the new Drew zone can be used to alleviate some of the demographic issues at Randolph. IIRC from a meeting last year, the plan is for Drew to take some of Oakridge's overcrowding, some of Hoffman Boston, and some kids from Randolph. I don't know if Hoffman Boston is overcrowded or not.

No, Drew is going to take kids primarily from Oakridge and Abingdon (the Abingdon area has been using Claremont as a neighborhood school, but without guaranteed admission to that school the boundary needs to be redrawn so that Abingdon doesn't get pummeled with increased enrollment. Randolph isn't overcrowded. If you live in that boundary, do not expect to be rezoned. It isn't going to happen. Though I do think some in Douglas Park who are currently zoned Henry aren't going to make the cut in the Fleet boundary. They're not walk zone to Fleet (or Henry for that matter), but are walk zone to Randolph and will likely get shifted there.

Douglas Park is partially zoned Hoffman Boston. I would expect all of that weird pie piece zone H-B to be pushed back in bounds to Randolph. That would include the upscale condos at that corner of Walter Reed and 4 Mile.
The stage has been set for that due to the middle school boundary process. Douglas Park was poised to be split down the middle TJ/Gunston. They fought all stay at TJ. Well, now they will likely all be at Randolph. Not a bad thing. Randolph needs all of the middle class families it can get
I’ve been watching the real estate in that area. There’s been an uptick in flips in that small potion of the neighborhood zoned H-B. Those people are in a for a shock next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On the subject of Drew, are there stats available for the traditional vs. Montessori programs? Drew is around 55% FARMS, which I believe is the aggregate number for the whole school. If 2/3 of the slots for Montessori are reserved for low income, then that suggests the traditional program FARMS rate is lower, probably in the low 40s or high 30s. If that's the case, looks like the new Drew zone can be used to alleviate some of the demographic issues at Randolph. IIRC from a meeting last year, the plan is for Drew to take some of Oakridge's overcrowding, some of Hoffman Boston, and some kids from Randolph. I don't know if Hoffman Boston is overcrowded or not.

No, Drew is going to take kids primarily from Oakridge and Abingdon (the Abingdon area has been using Claremont as a neighborhood school, but without guaranteed admission to that school the boundary needs to be redrawn so that Abingdon doesn't get pummeled with increased enrollment. Randolph isn't overcrowded. If you live in that boundary, do not expect to be rezoned. It isn't going to happen. Though I do think some in Douglas Park who are currently zoned Henry aren't going to make the cut in the Fleet boundary. They're not walk zone to Fleet (or Henry for that matter), but are walk zone to Randolph and will likely get shifted there.

Douglas Park is partially zoned Hoffman Boston. I would expect all of that weird pie piece zone H-B to be pushed back in bounds to Randolph. That would include the upscale condos at that corner of Walter Reed and 4 Mile.
The stage has been set for that due to the middle school boundary process. Douglas Park was poised to be split down the middle TJ/Gunston. They fought all stay at TJ. Well, now they will likely all be at Randolph. Not a bad thing. Randolph needs all of the middle class families it can get
I’ve been watching the real estate in that area. There’s been an uptick in flips in that small potion of the neighborhood zoned H-B. Those people are in a for a shock next year.

Douglas Park resident here. There have been 2 or 3 flips in that area recently but the number of flips and remodels in DP as a whole is up considerably. I think most people in that part of the neighborhood are expecting to be redistricted. I have heard one family say they wish they were districted to Randolph (but that is just one family).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On the subject of Drew, are there stats available for the traditional vs. Montessori programs? Drew is around 55% FARMS, which I believe is the aggregate number for the whole school. If 2/3 of the slots for Montessori are reserved for low income, then that suggests the traditional program FARMS rate is lower, probably in the low 40s or high 30s. If that's the case, looks like the new Drew zone can be used to alleviate some of the demographic issues at Randolph. IIRC from a meeting last year, the plan is for Drew to take some of Oakridge's overcrowding, some of Hoffman Boston, and some kids from Randolph. I don't know if Hoffman Boston is overcrowded or not.

No, Drew is going to take kids primarily from Oakridge and Abingdon (the Abingdon area has been using Claremont as a neighborhood school, but without guaranteed admission to that school the boundary needs to be redrawn so that Abingdon doesn't get pummeled with increased enrollment. Randolph isn't overcrowded. If you live in that boundary, do not expect to be rezoned. It isn't going to happen. Though I do think some in Douglas Park who are currently zoned Henry aren't going to make the cut in the Fleet boundary. They're not walk zone to Fleet (or Henry for that matter), but are walk zone to Randolph and will likely get shifted there.

Douglas Park is partially zoned Hoffman Boston. I would expect all of that weird pie piece zone H-B to be pushed back in bounds to Randolph. That would include the upscale condos at that corner of Walter Reed and 4 Mile.
The stage has been set for that due to the middle school boundary process. Douglas Park was poised to be split down the middle TJ/Gunston. They fought all stay at TJ. Well, now they will likely all be at Randolph. Not a bad thing. Randolph needs all of the middle class families it can get
I’ve been watching the real estate in that area. There’s been an uptick in flips in that small potion of the neighborhood zoned H-B. Those people are in a for a shock next year.

Douglas Park resident here. There have been 2 or 3 flips in that area recently but the number of flips and remodels in DP as a whole is up considerably. I think most people in that part of the neighborhood are expecting to be redistricted. I have heard one family say they wish they were districted to Randolph (but that is just one family).

Well it will certainly be more convenient than what they are doing now. The map looks really convoluted. I wonder what the history of that weird districting is.

[Anonymous]

If that redevelopment of the "Nauck Town Center" ever comes to pass, maybe that would help balance the demographics at Randolph. Between Shirlington and Douglas Park, it has the potential to improve. Maybe APS should move some of the kids on the edge of Fairlington from Abingdon to Randolph?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If that redevelopment of the "Nauck Town Center" ever comes to pass, maybe that would help balance the demographics at Randolph. Between Shirlington and Douglas Park, it has the potential to improve. Maybe APS should move some of the kids on the edge of Fairlington from Abingdon to Randolph?

No part of Nauck is zoned Randolph.
Abingdon zone it too far.

[Anonymous]

Hi. Had a couple very basic timing questions I wasn't able to find the answer to elsewhere, so I'm hoping the folks following this thread will know.

My understanding is that the boundary adjustments will be announced in the 2018-2019 school year, and they will take effect in the 2019-2020 school year.

Is this correct? Does it apply to school at all levels - Elementary, Middle, and High?

Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Hi. Had a couple very basic timing questions I wasn't able to find the answer to elsewhere, so I'm hoping the folks following this thread will know.

My understanding is that the boundary adjustments will be announced in the 2018-2019 school year, and they will take effect in the 2019-2020 school year.

Is this correct? Does it apply to school at all levels - Elementary, Middle, and High?

Thanks in advance.

HS was done last year, took effect this school year I believe. MS is done and will be in effect for 2018-2019 school year. ES will be decided later this year and be in effect for the 2019-2020 academic year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Hi. Had a couple very basic timing questions I wasn't able to find the answer to elsewhere, so I'm hoping the folks following this thread will know.

My understanding is that the boundary adjustments will be announced in the 2018-2019 school year, and they will take effect in the 2019-2020 school year.

Is this correct? Does it apply to school at all levels - Elementary, Middle, and High?

Thanks in advance.

HS was done last year, took effect this school year I believe. MS is done and will be in effect for 2018-2019 school year. ES will be decided later this year and be in effect for the 2019-2020 academic year.

MS boundaries take effect for the 2019-2020 school year.