Why should I vote Republican after this tax plan?

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Anonymous wrote:I want you to think about this... (rough numbers, not exact)

In 1999 Congress increased the NIH's budget by $2.3 billion[29] to $17.2 billion in 2000.[30] In 2009 Congress again increased the NIH budget to $31 billion in 2010.[30] In March 2017, President Trump proposed to cut the 2018 budget by 18.3%, or about $5.8 billion to $25.9 billion.[31]:26

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institutes_of_Health


Their budget has doubled in less than twenty years. That's a ridiculous debasement of our currency, especially when we borrow 45 cents out of every dollar the government spends. That's not going to go on forever. Wake up!

And how much has the defense budget gone up in that same time period?

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Yep, we sure do. This is the Republican motto. You might as well write it into your party platform.

And the dem motto can be, take more from workers and give to those who won't work.

Like all the poor rural out of work miners and steelworkers on disability?

No, the progressive democrat motto can be:

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Anonymous wrote:I want you to think about this... (rough numbers, not exact)

In 1999 Congress increased the NIH's budget by $2.3 billion[29] to $17.2 billion in 2000.[30] In 2009 Congress again increased the NIH budget to $31 billion in 2010.[30] In March 2017, President Trump proposed to cut the 2018 budget by 18.3%, or about $5.8 billion to $25.9 billion.[31]:26

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institutes_of_Health


Their budget has doubled in less than twenty years. That's a ridiculous debasement of our currency, especially when we borrow 45 cents out of every dollar the government spends. That's not going to go on forever. Wake up!

And how much has the defense budget gone up in that same time period?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States

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Anonymous wrote:I’m an upper middle class professional and a Democrat. For years I’ve been hearing that I should really be Republican for my own self interest. Less taxes and all that. But now this new Trump/Republican tax plan come out and guess what, it complete is not good for me.

Can someone explain?

I thought liberals wanted their taxes raised to support those in need. All talk?

Is that part in the Republican budget?

No the Republican budget is all about taking from those in need and giving to billionaires.

I don't care about those in need. Got it? Your definition of need is dividing people into groups/classes and then playing them off against one another. Time for you to start supporting yourself, and flattening the tax code so EVERYONE pays an equal percentage.

Ha! Unless you're a billionaire, you ARE one of "those in need." The next time you put a forkful of food in your mouth, drive your car, take a flight, brush your teeth, flush the toilet - decide whether or not these are things you need and be grateful that taxes paid by "other people" help make these things available to you, and government regulation ensures such mundane activities won't kill you or make you sick.

I'm not willing to put my health and safety in the hands of private industry. Too many examples of how little they care about any outcome other than profit.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m an upper middle class professional and a Democrat. For years I’ve been hearing that I should really be Republican for my own self interest. Less taxes and all that. But now this new Trump/Republican tax plan come out and guess what, it complete is not good for me.

Can someone explain?

I thought liberals wanted their taxes raised to support those in need. All talk?

Is that part in the Republican budget?

No the Republican budget is all about taking from those in need and giving to billionaires.

I don't care about those in need. Got it? Your definition of need is dividing people into groups/classes and then playing them off against one another. Time for you to start supporting yourself, and flattening the tax code so EVERYONE pays an equal percentage.

Ha! Unless you're a billionaire, you ARE one of "those in need." The next time you put a forkful of food in your mouth, drive your car, take a flight, brush your teeth, flush the toilet - decide whether or not these are things you need and be grateful that taxes paid by "other people" help make these things available to you, and government regulation ensures such mundane activities won't kill you or make you sick.

I'm not willing to put my health and safety in the hands of private industry. Too many examples of how little they care about any outcome other than profit.

Stop embarrassing yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m an upper middle class professional and a Democrat. For years I’ve been hearing that I should really be Republican for my own self interest. Less taxes and all that. But now this new Trump/Republican tax plan come out and guess what, it complete is not good for me.

Can someone explain?

I thought liberals wanted their taxes raised to support those in need. All talk?

Is that part in the Republican budget?

No the Republican budget is all about taking from those in need and giving to billionaires.

I don't care about those in need. Got it? Your definition of need is dividing people into groups/classes and then playing them off against one another. Time for you to start supporting yourself, and flattening the tax code so EVERYONE pays an equal percentage.

Ha! Unless you're a billionaire, you ARE one of "those in need." The next time you put a forkful of food in your mouth, drive your car, take a flight, brush your teeth, flush the toilet - decide whether or not these are things you need and be grateful that taxes paid by "other people" help make these things available to you, and government regulation ensures such mundane activities won't kill you or make you sick.

I'm not willing to put my health and safety in the hands of private industry. Too many examples of how little they care about any outcome other than profit.

Stop embarrassing yourself.

Looks like you just embarrassed yourself.

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I have to hand it to Trump. Machiavelli couldn't have devised a better way to concentrate the Democrat vote into blue states and shift red and purple areas into the GOP.

Yes, this will make Virginia solid blue, as the upper middle class liberals, living in million dollar homes, sending their children to "TJ," will rebel against the GOP, but most of the other, less wealthy, purple states will benefit.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m an upper middle class professional and a Democrat. For years I’ve been hearing that I should really be Republican for my own self interest. Less taxes and all that. But now this new Trump/Republican tax plan come out and guess what, it complete is not good for me.

Can someone explain?

I thought liberals wanted their taxes raised to support those in need. All talk?

Only with other people's money.

And this is the truth!

The outcry among liberals because it will cost them a few dollars surfaces their hypocrisy.

Yet none of you conservatives will admit where the extra tax dollars are going. Why is that?

This!
Liberals say they don't want the UMC to get a tax hike in order to give tax breaks to the super rich and wealthy. Conservatives respond that liberals don't want to pay higher taxes. Liberals say we would [u]be willing to pay higher taxes for services that benefit all Americans (health care, education, basic research, environmental protection) and conservatives respond that we don't really mean that. I mean how can you have a discussion if you just blow right past what the other side is saying

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Anonymous wrote:I want you to think about this... (rough numbers, not exact)

In 1999 Congress increased the NIH's budget by $2.3 billion[29] to $17.2 billion in 2000.[30] In 2009 Congress again increased the NIH budget to $31 billion in 2010.[30] In March 2017, President Trump proposed to cut the 2018 budget by 18.3%, or about $5.8 billion to $25.9 billion.[31]:26

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institutes_of_Health


Their budget has doubled in less than twenty years. That's a ridiculous debasement of our currency, especially when we borrow 45 cents out of every dollar the government spends. That's not going to go on forever. Wake up!

And how much has the defense budget gone up in that same time period?

That $2.3 billion increase included an additional $350 million for Alzheimer’s research, $200 million for the Precision Medicine Initiative, $85 million for the BRAIN Initiative, and $303 million for combating antibiotic-resistant bacteria.

The NIH also funds from the Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD) and the Office of Behavioral and Social Sciences Research (OBSSR) that supports our Global Obesity Prevention Center (GOPC) at Johns Hopkins University....and more

Failure to keep research funding at least on par of cost of living will also result in fewer people entering scientific fields. Slowing research would be a detriment to all of us as new infectious diseases appear.

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NP here and I'll gladly pay 15K more a year in taxes - a lot for my family - if it means we have single payer healthcare for every American, fully funded public school education, including affordable public pre K, and we properly care for our most vulnerable in this country, including the mentally ill, veterans, and the elderly.

But the Republicans aren't about taking money from people like me and helping society at large. They are taking money from middle class families like mine to give more to BILLIONAIRES AND CORPORATIONS. Disgraceful. We have some of the lowest tax rates in the world ALREADY. And after all the yakking and groaning from the GOP about the deficit - they're happy to add 1.5 trillion dollars to it to line the pockets of people like DeVos and the Koch brothers.

Is that the utopia that Trumpkins have in mind? Is that what coal miners in Pennsylvania voted for?

I'd love to hear any Republican give an explanation for that with a straight face. And trickle down economics is a hoax and no respectable economist supports that theory. So you can move to the next cheap talking point.

Part of the reason for that is the “war on terror” which seems to have been a boondoggle to make billionaires rich and - whoops - create a new generation of terrorists.

We were told this war would cost 45 billion. Did taxes go up to pay for that? No, they were cut at a time when surely patriotic Americans would have been willing to contribute.

Worse, the cost has been more than 400 trillion and still counting...




Yea, you aren't going to get that for $15 grand. Sorry to wake you out of your idiotic progressive dream. We have a debt of about [b]$62,000 for each and every person in the country TODAY. That's an indisputable government supplied number.

"We have some of the lowest tax rates in the world ALREADY." - No, we have the highest taxes in the world ALREADY making us uncompetitive in a global economy.

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Anonymous wrote:I will pay more, but I want it to go to shrimps on treadmills, programs to buy more needles for drug abusers, free housing for intergenerational welfare recipients and the study of monkey farts.

So you are for cuts at NIH?

Absolutely.

Nice Fox News talking point.
The shrimp treadmill cost around $50. If you actually care about the truth read this article which explains the purpose of this silly sounding experiment.
https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/shrimp-treadmills-some-science-only-sounds-silly

The Republican party has really become the "know nothing" party of the 21st century
http://www.npr.org/2011/08/23/139852035/shrimp-on-a-treadmill-the-politics-of-silly-studies

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Anonymous wrote:I’m an upper middle class professional and a Democrat. For years I’ve been hearing that I should really be Republican for my own self interest. Less taxes and all that. But now this new Trump/Republican tax plan come out and guess what, it complete is not good for me.

Can someone explain?

I thought liberals wanted their taxes raised to support those in need. All talk?

Is that part in the Republican budget?

Haaaa Haaaa! If you mean supporting people "in need" as the richest top percent then no I don't want my tax dollars to go to them.

Dcum’ers would cry if this bill was purely revenue raising without the cuts

Libs in Bethesda don’t support canadian healthcare and they wouldn’t support increased taxes even without a cut in the Corp rate

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Anonymous wrote:No one here will tell you to vote Republican.
Don't be silly.

Are there any Republicans left to vote for? Seems like it’s the Bannon-Putin Party now.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m an upper middle class professional and a Democrat. For years I’ve been hearing that I should really be Republican for my own self interest. Less taxes and all that. But now this new Trump/Republican tax plan come out and guess what, it complete is not good for me.

Can someone explain?

I thought liberals wanted their taxes raised to support those in need. All talk?

Is that part in the Republican budget?

Haaaa Haaaa! If you mean supporting people "in need" as the richest top percent then no I don't want my tax dollars to go to them.

Dcum’ers would cry if this bill was purely revenue raising without the cuts

Libs in Bethesda don’t support canadian healthcare and they wouldn’t support increased taxes even without a cut in the Corp rate

I'm a Lib in Silver Spring and I would and I do.

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Because of Pansexual sixth graders.