Hogan's calendar and the above-normal winter forecast

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People seem to forget that Martin O'Malley was for this change (he just ran out of time in the legislative calendar), and the MSEA was totally on board for it when it was "his idea" .

Now that Hogan does it- going back to a post Labor day start like we all had when we were kids- they go up in arms about it. Blatantly political.

Also- why did MCPS *ADD preservice days when the kids are going back later? Makes no sense.

Mcps requires that teachers have a certain amount of professional development days and since the condensed calendar does not allow for full days off they had to be tacked onto the beginning of the year.

MCPS doesn't require the professional days. The teacher's union does.

The contract does. There are two signatories to the contract.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hogan forced this upon everyone. He will grant waivers if any districts end up with too many snow days. This is such a nonissue. I'm willing to bet my right arm that nobody will cut into spring break even if we end up with a gazillion snow days. People---including teachers and principals and bus drivers---will be away on spring break. Stop worrying.

I wonder how you know this.

Politics 101. This guy knows he infuriated many parents and the teachers union by pushing his agenda to change the calendar. It was a risk. He cannot let it backfire. The governor has traditionally granted waivers in the past. Of course he will if it comes to it next year when the alternative is a political mess that will paint him in a very bad light in the press.

This is a feature, not a bug, for him politically. Plus, as far as I can tell, he likes poking MCPS. So I don't share your opinion.

He does like poking MoCo (not just mcps), but he really can't single us out by refusing a waiver to us and granting them to other counties. Trust me, waivers will be granted if they are needed. Enjoy your spring break trip.

He can't? Well, I hope I'm wrong and you're right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People seem to forget that Martin O'Malley was for this change (he just ran out of time in the legislative calendar), and the MSEA was totally on board for it when it was "his idea" .

Now that Hogan does it- going back to a post Labor day start like we all had when we were kids- they go up in arms about it. Blatantly political.

Also- why did MCPS *ADD preservice days when the kids are going back later? Makes no sense.

Mcps requires that teachers have a certain amount of professional development days and since the condensed calendar does not allow for full days off they had to be tacked onto the beginning of the year.

MCPS doesn't require the professional days. The teacher's union does.

Do you think it is unreasonable that teachers plan lessons and receive required training? There are new tests and new software rolling out. Don't you want your child's teachers to learn them? Don't you want teachers to revise lessons taught last year before they deliver instruction this year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At least twice in the past few years, the state did not Grant a waiver to Montgomery County when we had too many snow days. I don't think they would this year either.

And they shouldn't. Either go with the contingency plan that you f'ing set-up or don't set up a contingency plan and make up the days at the end like HC does. This waiver BS is nonsense. I am glad the state turned them down. Our board is a bunch of clowns who waste our money and our time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm only seeing a very wet and cold November predicted by the Farmer's Almanac. The rest doesn't look very concerning at all, although it's probably completely inaccurate.
https://www.almanac.com/weather/longrange/DC/Washington.

I also noticed a link to Doug Kammerer's "colder than normal" winter forecast for last year, which was completely wrong.

That said, I think cramming the school year in between Labor Day and June 15 just for the sake of Ocean City businesses is insane and short-sighted.

I agree. School calendar decisions should not be based on what businesses in Ocean City want. It's only a matter of time before we have a bad winter again- if it's not this year it could be next year.

You are an idiot. The mid atlantic beaches only have so many weeks of tourism that make the state millions in tax revenue. You do realize the state needs money to shell out their money for education, correct?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm only seeing a very wet and cold November predicted by the Farmer's Almanac. The rest doesn't look very concerning at all, although it's probably completely inaccurate.
https://www.almanac.com/weather/longrange/DC/Washington.

I also noticed a link to Doug Kammerer's "colder than normal" winter forecast for last year, which was completely wrong.

That said, I think cramming the school year in between Labor Day and June 15 just for the sake of Ocean City businesses is insane and short-sighted.

I agree. School calendar decisions should not be based on what businesses in Ocean City want. It's only a matter of time before we have a bad winter again- if it's not this year it could be next year.

You are an idiot. The mid atlantic beaches only have so many weeks of tourism that make the state millions in tax revenue. You do realize the state needs money to shell out their money for education, correct?

Hey, here's the great compromise. We can estimate the amount of additional tax revenue that we'll get this summer and next summer, compare it to the tax revenue from 2016 and 2019 and then we'll go back to the old schedule and deduct that additional tax revenue from MCPS. They have the biggest public school budget of the state, so they can afford to cover the revenue loss that their childish protest causes. Besides with an annual operating budget of $2.5B, covering the expected loss of $6-8M of tax revenue is just a drop in the bucket for MCPS. They probably wouldn't even notice it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People seem to forget that Martin O'Malley was for this change (he just ran out of time in the legislative calendar), and the MSEA was totally on board for it when it was "his idea" .

Now that Hogan does it- going back to a post Labor day start like we all had when we were kids- they go up in arms about it. Blatantly political.

Also- why did MCPS *ADD preservice days when the kids are going back later? Makes no sense.

Mcps requires that teachers have a certain amount of professional development days and since the condensed calendar does not allow for full days off they had to be tacked onto the beginning of the year.

MCPS doesn't require the professional days. The teacher's union does.

MCPS requires itself to abide by the agreed upon contracts between employees and employer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People seem to forget that Martin O'Malley was for this change (he just ran out of time in the legislative calendar), and the MSEA was totally on board for it when it was "his idea" .

Now that Hogan does it- going back to a post Labor day start like we all had when we were kids- they go up in arms about it. Blatantly political.

Also- why did MCPS *ADD preservice days when the kids are going back later? Makes no sense.

Mcps requires that teachers have a certain amount of professional development days and since the condensed calendar does not allow for full days off they had to be tacked onto the beginning of the year.

MCPS doesn't require the professional days. The teacher's union does.

Do you think it is unreasonable that teachers plan lessons and receive required training? There are new tests and new software rolling out. Don't you want your child's teachers to learn them? Don't you want teachers to revise lessons taught last year before they deliver instruction this year?

Hahahaha DCUM doesn't think teachers are professionals or that they need any kind of professional learning to be glorified babysitters to their children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm only seeing a very wet and cold November predicted by the Farmer's Almanac. The rest doesn't look very concerning at all, although it's probably completely inaccurate.
https://www.almanac.com/weather/longrange/DC/Washington.

I also noticed a link to Doug Kammerer's "colder than normal" winter forecast for last year, which was completely wrong.

That said, I think cramming the school year in between Labor Day and June 15 just for the sake of Ocean City businesses is insane and short-sighted.

I agree. School calendar decisions should not be based on what businesses in Ocean City want. It's only a matter of time before we have a bad winter again- if it's not this year it could be next year.

You are an idiot. The mid atlantic beaches only have so many weeks of tourism that make the state millions in tax revenue. You do realize the state needs money to shell out their money for education, correct?

Hey, here's the great compromise. We can estimate the amount of additional tax revenue that we'll get this summer and next summer, compare it to the tax revenue from 2016 and 2019 and then we'll go back to the old schedule and deduct that additional tax revenue from MCPS. They have the biggest public school budget of the state, so they can afford to cover the revenue loss that their childish protest causes. Besides with an annual operating budget of $2.5B, covering the expected loss of $6-8M of tax revenue is just a drop in the bucket for MCPS. They probably wouldn't even notice it.

You sound just like a typical idiot. You think "Who cares about millions of lost revenue. We really need to start week a week earlier?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At least twice in the past few years, the state did not Grant a waiver to Montgomery County when we had too many snow days. I don't think they would this year either.

And they shouldn't. Either go with the contingency plan that you f'ing set-up or don't set up a contingency plan and make up the days at the end like HC does. This waiver BS is nonsense. I am glad the state turned them down. Our board is a bunch of clowns who waste our money and our time.

Four seats on the Board of Education are up for election in 2018: District 1, District 3, District 5, and At Large. Now's your chance to improve things by running for one of those seats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm only seeing a very wet and cold November predicted by the Farmer's Almanac. The rest doesn't look very concerning at all, although it's probably completely inaccurate.
https://www.almanac.com/weather/longrange/DC/Washington.

I also noticed a link to Doug Kammerer's "colder than normal" winter forecast for last year, which was completely wrong.

That said, I think cramming the school year in between Labor Day and June 15 just for the sake of Ocean City businesses is insane and short-sighted.

I agree. School calendar decisions should not be based on what businesses in Ocean City want. It's only a matter of time before we have a bad winter again- if it's not this year it could be next year.

You are an idiot. The mid atlantic beaches only have so many weeks of tourism that make the state millions in tax revenue. You do realize the state needs money to shell out their money for education, correct?

Hey, here's the great compromise. We can estimate the amount of additional tax revenue that we'll get this summer and next summer, compare it to the tax revenue from 2016 and 2019 and then we'll go back to the old schedule and deduct that additional tax revenue from MCPS. They have the biggest public school budget of the state, so they can afford to cover the revenue loss that their childish protest causes. Besides with an annual operating budget of $2.5B, covering the expected loss of $6-8M of tax revenue is just a drop in the bucket for MCPS. They probably wouldn't even notice it.

You sound just like a typical idiot. You think "Who cares about millions of lost revenue. We really need to start week a week earlier?"

How much revenue actually goes directly to schools in other districts I figured the schools in Ocean City would mostly benefit from that Revenue and it's not like there's a lot of kids who live in Ocean City year-round

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm only seeing a very wet and cold November predicted by the Farmer's Almanac. The rest doesn't look very concerning at all, although it's probably completely inaccurate.
https://www.almanac.com/weather/longrange/DC/Washington.

I also noticed a link to Doug Kammerer's "colder than normal" winter forecast for last year, which was completely wrong.

That said, I think cramming the school year in between Labor Day and June 15 just for the sake of Ocean City businesses is insane and short-sighted.

I agree. School calendar decisions should not be based on what businesses in Ocean City want. It's only a matter of time before we have a bad winter again- if it's not this year it could be next year.

You are an idiot. The mid atlantic beaches only have so many weeks of tourism that make the state millions in tax revenue. You do realize the state needs money to shell out their money for education, correct?

Hey, here's the great compromise. We can estimate the amount of additional tax revenue that we'll get this summer and next summer, compare it to the tax revenue from 2016 and 2019 and then we'll go back to the old schedule and deduct that additional tax revenue from MCPS. They have the biggest public school budget of the state, so they can afford to cover the revenue loss that their childish protest causes. Besides with an annual operating budget of $2.5B, covering the expected loss of $6-8M of tax revenue is just a drop in the bucket for MCPS. They probably wouldn't even notice it.

You sound just like a typical idiot. You think "Who cares about millions of lost revenue. We really need to start week a week earlier?"

How much revenue actually goes directly to schools in other districts I figured the schools in Ocean City would mostly benefit from that Revenue and it's not like there's a lot of kids who live in Ocean City year-round

Not the PP but I think you need to learn a little bit more about how government works.

[Anonymous]

OP - who cares!!! Your panties are on too tight. I am loving this last beautiful week of summer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hogan forced this upon everyone. He will grant waivers if any districts end up with too many snow days. This is such a nonissue. I'm willing to bet my right arm that nobody will cut into spring break even if we end up with a gazillion snow days. People---including teachers and principals and bus drivers---will be away on spring break. Stop worrying.

I wonder how you know this.

Politics 101. This guy knows he infuriated many parents and the teachers union by pushing his agenda to change the calendar. It was a risk. He cannot let it backfire. The governor has traditionally granted waivers in the past. Of course he will if it comes to it next year when the alternative is a political mess that will paint him in a very bad light in the press.

This is a feature, not a bug, for him politically. Plus, as far as I can tell, he likes poking MCPS. So I don't share your opinion.

He does like poking MoCo (not just mcps), but he really can't single us out by refusing a waiver to us and granting them to other counties. Trust me, waivers will be granted if they are needed. Enjoy your spring break trip.

He can't? Well, I hope I'm wrong and you're right.

Hogan HATES Mo Co. HATES it!

I often wonder if that's why Jack Smith is the superintendent. You know his history in Calvert County . . .

[Anonymous]

I am just sitting here just waiting to pick my kid up from the third week of practice..no vacations here. Games start tomorrow.