Proximity Preference 0.5 mile for charters

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Anonymous wrote:I just did a quick mapping of Ward 3 (this tool is recommended: http://obeattie.github.io/gmaps-radius/?lat=38.924386&lng=-77.058519&z=13&u=mi&r=0.5 )

Spring Valley, AU Park, Friendship Heights, Foxhall Village and Burleith are all areas that don't have a DCPS elementary school within half a mile. What do you think will happen when someone tries to put an elementary charter there with neighborhood preference?

Where are they going to put it? It always comes back to space.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in Woodridge and would be affected - more than 0.75 miles to Langdon and much closer to the Friendship charter. Not an issue for us since we are already in another charter school.

Wards 5 and 8 would have the biggest swatches, it seems, with my very scientific zooming in on this map to see where there are gaps between DCPS schools: http://dcatlas.dcgis.dc.gov/scorecard/default.aspx

I live near IT and the neighbors over here will love this. There has already been some neighborhood discussion of this with the school; at that time the school said they were open to a neighborhood preference if it was allowed by the charter board. We'll see if it happens. . .

Yes, I think this will apply to a good .2 mile area around the school which might help with neighborhood relations. I wouldn't be shocked if someone moved in to that neighborhood specifically in order to take advantage of the preference.

I'm sure ITS will be just as pleased to extend that preference to Edgewood Terrace residents who are also within .5 miles and more than .5 miles from Noyes.

Looks like Edgewood Terrace is < .5 miles to Noyes and thus wouldn't be affected. The primary zone impacted is the Zone to the South of the school. Or were you just being snarky? No actually constructive?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just did a quick mapping of Ward 3 (this tool is recommended: http://obeattie.github.io/gmaps-radius/?lat=38.924386&lng=-77.058519&z=13&u=mi&r=0.5 )

Spring Valley, AU Park, Friendship Heights, Foxhall Village and Burleith are all areas that don't have a DCPS elementary school within half a mile. What do you think will happen when someone tries to put an elementary charter there with neighborhood preference?

Where are they going to put a school that is within half a mile of those neighborhoods, though? That's the other caveat.

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Anonymous wrote:Making it more complicated is going to benefit those who can navigate it best. I think this benefits the wealthy who can figure the system out and buy in specific locations to take advantage of it.

For example, there are going to be certain houses that are <.5 mi to a target HRCS and >.5mi from their DCPS. I could find those houses. I highly doubt those who are economically disadvantaged could.

but its up to the charter to evoke it or not. leading to much uncertainty. in that way, at least, you won't see housing prices affected

That's true in the short term. But if a place like LAMB decided to offer it, I think it would drive up prices in any areas that meet the two criteria. I'd certainly run the analysis if I were looking.

Offer it one year and not the next, which is their perogative. Housing prices need more stability that that to shoot up.

I'd be shocked if LAMB offers this.

This will definitely be a disadvantage for enrolling native Spanish speakers.

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Anonymous wrote:Making it more complicated is going to benefit those who can navigate it best. I think this benefits the wealthy who can figure the system out and buy in specific locations to take advantage of it.

For example, there are going to be certain houses that are <.5 mi to a target HRCS and >.5mi from their DCPS. I could find those houses. I highly doubt those who are economically disadvantaged could.

but its up to the charter to evoke it or not. leading to much uncertainty. in that way, at least, you won't see housing prices affected

That's true in the short term. But if a place like LAMB decided to offer it, I think it would drive up prices in any areas that meet the two criteria. I'd certainly run the analysis if I were looking.

Offer it one year and not the next, which is their perogative. Housing prices need more stability that that to shoot up.

I'd be shocked if LAMB offers this.

This will definitely be a disadvantage for enrolling native Spanish speakers.

Not at the MO Ave campus

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We live in Woodridge and would be affected - more than 0.75 miles to Langdon and much closer to the Friendship charter. Not an issue for us since we are already in another charter school.

Wards 5 and 8 would have the biggest swatches, it seems, with my very scientific zooming in on this map to see where there are gaps between DCPS schools: http://dcatlas.dcgis.dc.gov/scorecard/default.aspx

I live near IT and the neighbors over here will love this. There has already been some neighborhood discussion of this with the school; at that time the school said they were open to a neighborhood preference if it was allowed by the charter board. We'll see if it happens. . .

Yes, I think this will apply to a good .2 mile area around the school which might help with neighborhood relations. I wouldn't be shocked if someone moved in to that neighborhood specifically in order to take advantage of the preference.

I'm sure ITS will be just as pleased to extend that preference to Edgewood Terrace residents who are also within .5 miles and more than .5 miles from Noyes.

Looks like Edgewood Terrace is < .5 miles to Noyes and thus wouldn't be affected. The primary zone impacted is the Zone to the South of the school. Or were you just being snarky? No actually constructive?

And to the south they are mostly less than 0.5 to Langley. I'm wondering if this would actually smooth things in the neighborhood or create more disruption by creating a tiny "ITS" district within it.

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Anonymous wrote:Making it more complicated is going to benefit those who can navigate it best. I think this benefits the wealthy who can figure the system out and buy in specific locations to take advantage of it.

For example, there are going to be certain houses that are <.5 mi to a target HRCS and >.5mi from their DCPS. I could find those houses. I highly doubt those who are economically disadvantaged could.

but its up to the charter to evoke it or not. leading to much uncertainty. in that way, at least, you won't see housing prices affected

That's true in the short term. But if a place like LAMB decided to offer it, I think it would drive up prices in any areas that meet the two criteria. I'd certainly run the analysis if I were looking.

Offer it one year and not the next, which is their perogative. Housing prices need more stability that that to shoot up.

I'd be shocked if LAMB offers this.

This will definitely be a disadvantage for enrolling native Spanish speakers.

Not at the MO Ave campus

True, but they aren't even affiliated with MY School DC; there goes that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just did a quick mapping of Ward 3 (this tool is recommended: http://obeattie.github.io/gmaps-radius/?lat=38.924386&lng=-77.058519&z=13&u=mi&r=0.5 )

Spring Valley, AU Park, Friendship Heights, Foxhall Village and Burleith are all areas that don't have a DCPS elementary school within half a mile. What do you think will happen when someone tries to put an elementary charter there with neighborhood preference?

Presumably, someone so nefarious would have a better understanding of available real estate than you seem to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just did a quick mapping of Ward 3 (this tool is recommended: http://obeattie.github.io/gmaps-radius/?lat=38.924386&lng=-77.058519&z=13&u=mi&r=0.5 )

Spring Valley, AU Park, Friendship Heights, Foxhall Village and Burleith are all areas that don't have a DCPS elementary school within half a mile. What do you think will happen when someone tries to put an elementary charter there with neighborhood preference?

Presumably, someone so nefarious would have a better understanding of available real estate than you seem to.

Incredibly unlikely the DCPCSB would approve a school planning to locate in Ward 3.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We live in Woodridge and would be affected - more than 0.75 miles to Langdon and much closer to the Friendship charter. Not an issue for us since we are already in another charter school.

Wards 5 and 8 would have the biggest swatches, it seems, with my very scientific zooming in on this map to see where there are gaps between DCPS schools: http://dcatlas.dcgis.dc.gov/scorecard/default.aspx

I live near IT and the neighbors over here will love this. There has already been some neighborhood discussion of this with the school; at that time the school said they were open to a neighborhood preference if it was allowed by the charter board. We'll see if it happens. . .

Yes, I think this will apply to a good .2 mile area around the school which might help with neighborhood relations. I wouldn't be shocked if someone moved in to that neighborhood specifically in order to take advantage of the preference.

I'm sure ITS will be just as pleased to extend that preference to Edgewood Terrace residents who are also within .5 miles and more than .5 miles from Noyes.

Looks like Edgewood Terrace is < .5 miles to Noyes and thus wouldn't be affected. The primary zone impacted is the Zone to the South of the school. Or were you just being snarky? No actually constructive?

And to the south they are mostly less than 0.5 to Langley. I'm wondering if this would actually smooth things in the neighborhood or create more disruption by creating a tiny "ITS" district within it.

But the areas south of ITS are zoned for Noyes, which makes a difference. It's not based on proximity to any DCPS school but proximity to your zoned school, at least as written. I'm an ITS parent and I am not in favor of any neighborhood preference for charter schools, though I agree that there are lots of benefits of walkable schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just did a quick mapping of Ward 3 (this tool is recommended: http://obeattie.github.io/gmaps-radius/?lat=38.924386&lng=-77.058519&z=13&u=mi&r=0.5 )

Spring Valley, AU Park, Friendship Heights, Foxhall Village and Burleith are all areas that don't have a DCPS elementary school within half a mile. What do you think will happen when someone tries to put an elementary charter there with neighborhood preference?

Presumably, someone so nefarious would have a better understanding of available real estate than you seem to.

Washington Latin started in a church basement in Ward Circle.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We live in Woodridge and would be affected - more than 0.75 miles to Langdon and much closer to the Friendship charter. Not an issue for us since we are already in another charter school.

Wards 5 and 8 would have the biggest swatches, it seems, with my very scientific zooming in on this map to see where there are gaps between DCPS schools: http://dcatlas.dcgis.dc.gov/scorecard/default.aspx

I live near IT and the neighbors over here will love this. There has already been some neighborhood discussion of this with the school; at that time the school said they were open to a neighborhood preference if it was allowed by the charter board. We'll see if it happens. . .

Yes, I think this will apply to a good .2 mile area around the school which might help with neighborhood relations. I wouldn't be shocked if someone moved in to that neighborhood specifically in order to take advantage of the preference.

Do you think ITS would opt in to offer the preference?

I'm sure ITS will be just as pleased to extend that preference to Edgewood Terrace residents who are also within .5 miles and more than .5 miles from Noyes.

Looks like Edgewood Terrace is < .5 miles to Noyes and thus wouldn't be affected. The primary zone impacted is the Zone to the South of the school. Or were you just being snarky? No actually constructive?

And to the south they are mostly less than 0.5 to Langley. I'm wondering if this would actually smooth things in the neighborhood or create more disruption by creating a tiny "ITS" district within it.

But the areas south of ITS are zoned for Noyes, which makes a difference. It's not based on proximity to any DCPS school but proximity to your zoned school, at least as written. I'm an ITS parent and I am not in favor of any neighborhood preference for charter schools, though I agree that there are lots of benefits of walkable schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just did a quick mapping of Ward 3 (this tool is recommended: http://obeattie.github.io/gmaps-radius/?lat=38.924386&lng=-77.058519&z=13&u=mi&r=0.5 )

Spring Valley, AU Park, Friendship Heights, Foxhall Village and Burleith are all areas that don't have a DCPS elementary school within half a mile. What do you think will happen when someone tries to put an elementary charter there with neighborhood preference?

Presumably, someone so nefarious would have a better understanding of available real estate than you seem to.

Incredibly unlikely the DCPCSB would approve a school planning to locate in Ward 3.

Why not? A new Ward 3 elementary school would help solve the current overcrowding issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just did a quick mapping of Ward 3 (this tool is recommended: http://obeattie.github.io/gmaps-radius/?lat=38.924386&lng=-77.058519&z=13&u=mi&r=0.5 )

Spring Valley, AU Park, Friendship Heights, Foxhall Village and Burleith are all areas that don't have a DCPS elementary school within half a mile. What do you think will happen when someone tries to put an elementary charter there with neighborhood preference?

Presumably, someone so nefarious would have a better understanding of available real estate than you seem to.

Incredibly unlikely the DCPCSB would approve a school planning to locate in Ward 3.

Why not? A new Ward 3 elementary school would help solve the current overcrowding issue.

NP here, so why hasn't a Charter school found a location in Ward 3? I recall Shinning Stars (or another charter) looking at an office building, but it fell through.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just did a quick mapping of Ward 3 (this tool is recommended: http://obeattie.github.io/gmaps-radius/?lat=38.924386&lng=-77.058519&z=13&u=mi&r=0.5 )

Spring Valley, AU Park, Friendship Heights, Foxhall Village and Burleith are all areas that don't have a DCPS elementary school within half a mile. What do you think will happen when someone tries to put an elementary charter there with neighborhood preference?

Presumably, someone so nefarious would have a better understanding of available real estate than you seem to.

Incredibly unlikely the DCPCSB would approve a school planning to locate in Ward 3.

Why not? A new Ward 3 elementary school would help solve the current overcrowding issue.

NP here, so why hasn't a Charter school found a location in Ward 3? I recall Shinning Stars (or another charter) looking at an office building, but it fell through.

First, Ward 3 is very expensive and it would be hard for a school to make ends meet and pay that much in rent.

To get a charter approved these days, schools emphasize and discuss their commitment to serving all students, especially those who have no access to quality schools and articulate their likely location. They have to do at least a cursory market analysis and show that there is a need for a higher quality option where they want to locate.

You can't talk about your commitment to serving disadvantaged, underserved and/or at risk students in DC and at the same time indicate you will set up shop in Ward 3. It doesn't pass the laugh test.

Re Wash Latin, when it first opened, it was chartered by the now-defunct DC School Board. Times have changed since them.