The Best Public Colleges vs the 'worst' Ivy Leagues

Anonymous
For grad school, the difference between an ivy and a top state school varies. Big state schools, even those that are not considered "good," sometimes have a top program in a particular field.

For undergrad, an ivy is almost certainly better than Berkeley, UCLA, etc.

Given the choice, I'd go to an Ivy for undergrad and a big state school for graduate.
Anonymous
How about we see if your kid gets into any of these schools first.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Grad student who currently attends Michigan and is very familiar with the undergraduate population. I understand the appeal of HYP but there is no way Columbia, Cornell, or Brown have better teaching than Michigan or Cal. Truly splitting hairs as both these state schools have some of the best departments and teachers in the country.

But I will admit that Ivy League on a resume helps for a variety of reasons.


Cal has strong world wide reputation and it is definitely above Michigan or lower Ivies.


What's "Cal?" I know what Columbia, Cornell and Brown are. Michigan... I assume Michigan State?



I don't know what Cal is either, UCLA, California State?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Grad student who currently attends Michigan and is very familiar with the undergraduate population. I understand the appeal of HYP but there is no way Columbia, Cornell, or Brown have better teaching than Michigan or Cal. Truly splitting hairs as both these state schools have some of the best departments and teachers in the country.

But I will admit that Ivy League on a resume helps for a variety of reasons.


Cal has strong world wide reputation and it is definitely above Michigan or lower Ivies.


What's "Cal?" I know what Columbia, Cornell and Brown are. Michigan... I assume Michigan State?



I don't know what Cal is either, UCLA, California State?

UC Berkeley
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I look at the schools my colleagues attended and realize it just doesn't matter as much as people think it does.


Confirmation bias and failure to see generational differences.

I'm a millennial and when I look around my office I realize it DOES matter.

Anyone pretending any state college is better than Cornell is an idiot or just in denial.
Anonymous
Cornell >>>>>>>> UVa
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Cornell >>>>>>>> UVa


Berkeley >>>>>>>>> Cornell
Anonymous
Why are there so many Berkeley grads in the Sate Department?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cornell >>>>>>>> UVa


Berkeley >>>>>>>>> Cornell


All three are very good state schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I look at the schools my colleagues attended and realize it just doesn't matter as much as people think it does.


Confirmation bias and failure to see generational differences.

I'm a millennial and when I look around my office I realize it DOES matter.

Anyone pretending any state college is better than Cornell is an idiot or just in denial.


That explains your idiotic post. You are forgiven.
Anonymous
The only fools are those who obsess over namebrands to the point of ignoring other important factors in life.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The only fools are those who obsess over namebrands to the point of ignoring other important factors in life.


Are you positive that those are the only fools? I can think of one or two others...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why are there so many Berkeley grads in the State Department?


Because they couldn't land a big law, Wall Street, or prime K Street offer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The only fools are those who obsess over namebrands to the point of ignoring other important factors in life.


—parents with average kids who can't get into an elite

Hey, whatever helps you cope. #rationalization
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I look at the schools my colleagues attended and realize it just doesn't matter as much as people think it does.


Confirmation bias and failure to see generational differences.

I'm a millennial and when I look around my office I realize it DOES matter.

Anyone pretending any state college is better than Cornell is an idiot or just in denial.


I went to Cornell - and my boss went to a third tier (if that) SLAC.
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