The Best Public Colleges vs the 'worst' Ivy Leagues

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nope, UVA now no. 1. https://news.virginia.edu/content/revamped-princeton-review-best-value-rankings-lists-uva-no-1-public

This is arguable but Berkely, UCLA, UVA, and Michigan are usually in the top of anyone's list (usually Berkeley as #1).

To further expound Berkeley is usually ranked higher than UVA.

http://colleges.startclass.com/compare/270-4437/University-of-California-Berkeley-vs-University-of-Virginia-Main-Campus

[Anonymous]

You can't compare UVa with Berkeley!! Are you kidding me??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nope, UVA now no. 1. https://news.virginia.edu/content/revamped-princeton-review-best-value-rankings-lists-uva-no-1-public

Number 1 in producing racist rednecks.

[Anonymous]

In this thread: Folks who've never been to Berkeley or UCLA. Both are a zoo compared to elites, you're basically on your own.

Unless you've been at an Ivy, you have no concept of the resources available. Seriously jaw dropping.

[Anonymous]

Please don't compare UVA to Berkeley.

Berkeley faculty, alumni, and researchers have won 92 Nobel Prizes (including 32 alumni Nobel laureates), 9 Wolf Prizes, 13 Fields Medals (including 3 alumni medalists), 22 Turing Awards (including 11 alumni awardees), 45 MacArthur Fellowships,[17] 20 Academy Awards, 14 Pulitzer Prizes[18] and 117 Olympic gold medals (51 silver and 39 bronze).[19]

To date, along with Berkeley Lab, UC Berkeley scientists and researchers have discovered 16 chemical elements of the periodic table – more than any other university in the world.[20][21] Lawrence Livermore Lab also discovered or co-discovered six chemical elements (113 to 118).

The 2010 United States National Research Council Rankings identified UC Berkeley as having the highest number of top-ranked doctoral programs in the nation.[72]

UC Berkeley doctoral programs that received a #1 ranking include Agricultural and Resource Economics, Astrophysics, Chemistry, Civil and Environmental Engineering, Computer Science, English, Epidemiology, Geography, German, Mathematics, Mechanical Engineering, Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, Genetics, Genomics, and Development, Physics, Plant Biology, and Political Science.

UC Berkeley was also the #1 recipient of National Science Foundation Graduate Research Fellowships between 2001 and 2010, with 1,333 awards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In this thread: Folks who've never been to Berkeley or UCLA. Both are a zoo compared to elites, you're basically on your own.

Unless you've been at an Ivy, you have no concept of the resources available. Seriously jaw dropping.

That is true. "Hold my hand mama" kids won't do well there. Self-driven kids do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Grad student who currently attends Michigan and is very familiar with the undergraduate population. I understand the appeal of HYP but there is no way Columbia, Cornell, or Brown have better teaching than Michigan or Cal. Truly splitting hairs as both these state schools have some of the best departments and teachers in the country.

But I will admit that Ivy League on a resume helps for a variety of reasons.

Sorry, but the idea that Michigan is better than any of those schools is unthinkable. Nice try, though.

[Anonymous]

I would have to think about UVA undergrad business over Wharton. Most likely Wharton. I'd also have to think about Cal over all but HYP. Other than that, no--the top remaining publics, per US News, of UCLA, Michigan, UNC, and William and Mary--don't make the cut over any Ivy. YMMV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this thread: Folks who've never been to Berkeley or UCLA. Both are a zoo compared to elites, you're basically on your own.

Unless you've been at an Ivy, you have no concept of the resources available. Seriously jaw dropping.

That is true. "Hold my hand mama" kids won't do well there. Self-driven kids do.

Yup. Great if your kid is a top 5%. Not so great for the schmucks in the bottom 95%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nope, UVA now no. 1. https://news.virginia.edu/content/revamped-princeton-review-best-value-rankings-lists-uva-no-1-public

Number 1 in producing racist rednecks.

That is so wrong. It's racist redneck racists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would have to think about UVA undergrad business over Wharton. Most likely Wharton. I'd also have to think about Cal over all but HYP. Other than that, no--the top remaining publics, per US News, of UCLA, Michigan, UNC, and William and Mary--don't make the cut over any Ivy. YMMV.

Who does business undergrad??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would have to think about UVA undergrad business over Wharton. Most likely Wharton. I'd also have to think about Cal over all but HYP. Other than that, no--the top remaining publics, per US News, of UCLA, Michigan, UNC, and William and Mary--don't make the cut over any Ivy. YMMV.

Who does business undergrad??

Accounting and marketing majors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would have to think about UVA undergrad business over Wharton. Most likely Wharton. I'd also have to think about Cal over all but HYP. Other than that, no--the top remaining publics, per US News, of UCLA, Michigan, UNC, and William and Mary--don't make the cut over any Ivy. YMMV.

Who does business undergrad??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would have to think about UVA undergrad business over Wharton. Most likely Wharton. I'd also have to think about Cal over all but HYP. Other than that, no--the top remaining publics, per US News, of UCLA, Michigan, UNC, and William and Mary--don't make the cut over any Ivy. YMMV.

Who does business undergrad??

Accounting and marketing majors.

Who majors in accounting or marketing undergrad? They sound like state school majors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would have to think about UVA undergrad business over Wharton. Most likely Wharton. I'd also have to think about Cal over all but HYP. Other than that, no--the top remaining publics, per US News, of UCLA, Michigan, UNC, and William and Mary--don't make the cut over any Ivy. YMMV.

Who does business undergrad??

Wharton undergrad = economics