Nevertheless, it happened and I'll keep repeating it over and over. Strange that any SN parent will have a problem with another SN parent sharing how they were treated by a service provider. Isn't that one of the purposes for this board? To talk about service providers, schools, camps, doctors, OT, SLPs, etc for SN kids? But then you aren't a SN parent... |
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Wrong.
Our experience with Ivymount is that they bend over backwards to help you out--including the coordinator of the social skills group. She has a SN child too and I imagine she would have moved heaven and earth to make it work. I also read the letter when you posted it here. It was respectful. I think many of us have had much shoddier treatment by SN therapists/professionals. You really need to get over it. The real lesson is that you probably should have started medication long b/f the social skills group. You were obviously were in denial about how disruptive your kid was. Your one bad experience got your butt in gear and pointed in the right direction. |
I am glad you had a good experience with Ivymount. We did not and I have every right to post about how we were sent an acceptance letter after the required play date and then had the acceptance rescinded after they made us come in for another observation under the pretext of "getting the right supports". If they felt my child was "too disruptive" why did they send an acceptance letter in the the first place instead of making the acceptance conditional on another observation? Rescinding an offer like that is shabby treatment no matter how "respectful" they word it and it would be the same for a job offer, college acceptance, camp,... therapy program for SN kids, etc. The real lesson here is that Ivymount treats us with disrespect. As for my being in denial. Not quite. DS was having a particularly difficult yr at school but had not been diagnosed with ADHD at that point and all his difficulties attributed to ASD by his developmental pediatrician. Ivymount even suggested in their emails rescinding their acceptance that while DS may not be a good candidate for Unstuck and On Target, DS will receive the supports he needs in their Model Asperger's Program at 50k+ a yr. No one suggested that ADHD was the problem until DS got a full neuropsych with Dr. Black. If our bad experience with Ivymount pains you so much, I suggest you not read them because I am going to keep posting it. DS is doing better then great now but Ivymount made everything even worse prior to the ADHD diagnosis. They waited nearly 6 wks+ after we were accepted into Unstuck and I had told my then 6 yr old with Asperger's that he will be attending the program to tell us that DS will not be attending after all. Heartless jerks. |
| PP, horrible! I'm so sorry. We're thinking about ivy mount for our son, but lately have heard some stories... |
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So what. Every single therapist, school, therapy practice in the area has some patient who would say this about them or their program. Whatever school, therapist, therapy that helped your child? That one has a parent(s) who have been "disrespected", treated in their opinion unfairly, etc and so forth. Your one single instance is not even a good example of "unprofessional". In fact, I would say what would have been unprofessional is them realizing they could not accommodate your child yet still accepting him and wasting both your time and money for months on end with no gain. What they did was in fact, respect you and your DS. It's odd that after all these years you don't grasp the reality of the situation. Yes, they sent you a letter that said he was admitted but that doesn't mean in any way that they could not release him from the program. I am quite certain that it was explained whether you choose to hear it or not, that yes, they could remove a child at any stage they felt could not benefit. That's fairly standard. |
This is a thread about being kicked out of summer camp and everyone related their individual experiences - some from "all these years" ago, much longer than what happened to us 1 1/2 yrs ago. As for your "So what." That can be said about every single personal experience told on this forum about service providers.... You seem to have a problem with Ivymount Outreach getting a bad review which I am entitled to give in spades
I can assure you we are over it: DS is currently one of the top kids in the country in his hobby, a true prodigy, and being kicked out of Unstuck and On Target was just a minor inconvenience in the general scheme of things. But that does not mean I won't stop repeating the story and contributing on this forum like everyone else does when the topic comes up even if it happened many years ago or to a friend, relative, or whoever, etc. |
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OP- I think the reason my son has not been kicked out of camps is his social anxiety. However, when he cuts loose after a day of (mostly) holding it in at camp... let's just say that he gets loud enough that I'm surprised our neighbors still speak to us.
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Re-read what the PP wrote. Sure, you are "entitled" to your feelings, but your bad review "in spades" is over the top for what actually happened to you. Your kid was able to do the Unstuck curriculum once he was medicated in any case albeit not there. It would have been unprofessional if anyone at Ivymount had suggested that ADHD was the problem. Your kid did one playdate then didn't go back; that hardly adds up to the staff being "heartless jerks." Yes, I can see where it was a negative experience, but your weeping/wailing/gnashing of teeth/woe is me act is just over the top. You have weird vendetta about Ivymount b/c you were obviously insulted that they rejected your child prodigy. People on the spectrum have a hard time with perspective taking and often have fixations. My guess is your apple didn't fall far from your tree. You might benefit from a personal evaluation. |
Who are you the review police?!? It's a funny story worth repeating and I will keep posting it whenever the topic of being "kicked out" of a SN program comes up especially given the personal attack about possibly having Asperger's and needing an evaluation. Hilarious considering we are talking about a program that is suppose to address the perspective taking, etc. So possibly having ASD is an insult now? If anyone has a vendetta, it's you and Ivymount who seem determined to discourage me from relating how we were treated. |
It's not an attack or an insult, PP. You don't come off as though you're relating a funny story. Give a meaningful review by all means of Ivymount even if it's negative. However, you seem obsessed and vindictive by blowing it out of proportion with something that happened two years ago that by your own admission was "a minor inconvenience." The quality of mercy seems to escape you. |
So here is my original post. The second "Ha!" poster here:
So where exactly am I being obsessed and vindictive unless I am being so by mentioning what happened? |
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Ladies, I'd like to suggest you drop this please. The PP with the Ivymount issue has been a very active and helpful member of this board and I'm guessing the person who has issues with this PP has also been an active and helpful member of this board. Let's just leave it at you agreeing to disagree on this issue.
Personally I see both your points. I think PP with the Ivymount issue has a right to post about it when she wants and I think she has a valid gripe. I also think her son's case is really an important success story for others to know about and I can see her pride in every post. But I also see how the frequency with which she posts about this can be annoying to some and how her talking about her great her DS is doing can really sting for those of us who are struggling. I don't mean to offend either of you and think you're probably both really nice people but this arguing is starting to sound like two of my kids going at it. |
Thank you for putting it in perspective! I'll stop (The poster who uses emoticons)
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She's obsessed: http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/15/453471.page#6562756 http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/457835.page#6656438 http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/105/432075.page#6132224 http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/75/432075.page#6124263 She went so far as to upload the "rejection" letter to this site. Jeff removed it and she complained. She obviously wants sympathy and aw, that's awful responses, but having read all of her posts over the last two years, it's obvious she's blowing everything out of proportion. Her kid will be graduating college and she'll still be complaining about this mosquito bite. |