Top Tier Boarding school vs. TJ

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TJ Class of 2016 has students going to Harvard (6), MIT (13), Williams (1), Caltech (3), Harvey Mudd (1), Stanford (7), Berkeley (12), Chicago (13), Michigan (11), Brown (3), USAF (1), USCG (1), Carnegie Mellon (23), Penn (7), Yale (7), Dartmouth (4), Georgia Tech (6), Duke (8), Columbia (9), Cornell (8), Princeton (6), Olin (2), Wellesley (1), Swarthmore (3), Georgetown (5), Vanderbilt (3), Washington U. (2), Purdue (8), Rose-Hulman (2), Rennslauer (6), Rochester Tech (4). That is about 40% of the class of something like 457.

Another 1/3 go to UVA (81), W&M (32), or VA Tech (35).

Others go to places like NYU, UCLA, IU, Notre Dame, Colby, Bowdoin, VCU (6), JMU (3), George Mason (11), U of Colorado, Reed, Oregon State, Miami, USC, schools abroad, Richmond, Case Western, Penn State, GW, Syracuse, Rutgers.

So, how many Sarah Kims are in here?

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/476545.page

Remember the call from Zuckerberg? Except he didn't call?? She got into both Harvard and Stanford... Except she didn't... Sad story, really.

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Anonymous wrote:My husband went to harvard, and his classmates that went to Exeter or Andover or Saint Paul's claim their high school classmates were smarter on the whole than their college classmates. They remain the only true ivy feeders. And with huge endowments, they can give generous financial aid.

This. I worked harder and was surrounded by smarter and more talented people, overall, at one of the three schools mentioned above than I was at HYPS for UG/Law. I had never heard of TJ before moving to this area. I'm sure it's a fine school, but clearly it does not have the same global alumni network or social/cultural currency that Exeter or Andover has. Honestly the only people I've heard talk about TJ sound very "striverish" (for lack of a better word).

b/c of family connections. most of (if not all) tj families are middle working class with no meaningful connections.

Ummm tj parent here and I would not call them middle working class. Ok no trumps or johnsons, but pretty wealthy for the most part.

Agree. Most TJ parents tend to be professionals: physicians, lawyers, engineers, researchers, accountants, PhDs at IMF/World Bank, some diplomats etc.

I went to a rich Ivy with a lot of BS kids and it doesn't compare. We're talking about net worth families in the hundred of millions, a lot of blue blood. Phillips Academy has incredible alumni connections. I'd personally pick TJ just because I can't imagine being away from my kids.

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So, how many Sarah Kims are in here?

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/476545.page

Remember the call from Zuckerberg? Except he didn't call?? She got into both Harvard and Stanford... Except she didn't... Sad story, really.

Where dd she end up? Also how many kids apply from Korea and China directly?

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So, how many Sarah Kims are in here?

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/476545.page

Remember the call from Zuckerberg? Except he didn't call?? She got into both Harvard and Stanford... Except she didn't... Sad story, really.

Where dd she end up? Also how many kids apply from Korea and China directly?

The last thing I heard, the poor girl went back to Korea with her parents. I do not know if she was allowed to graduate from TJ though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Entitled slackers bitching about "strivers" and "try hards," with a dollop of racism and Masters of the Universe pretensions on the side. Charming!

So typical.

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Look. You are pretty clearly aiming for a certain type of answer by posting in P & I schools. You want posters who think private school is worth any cost. If you post in VA public schools or General Education or AAP, you will get a much different sampling of answers (like why would I not send my STEM kid to the best STEM school in the nation for free, and I do not want to let my high school freshman leave home).

TJ and top BSs get very different applicants with different priorities, and comparing them to find the "best" is apples and oranges. If you have a kid at a TJ and/or top BS level, then you go with their needs and the needs of your family. They are looking for different things in their applicant, and I doubt many TJ kids are well rounded enough for a top BS, or the top BS kids have the STEM chops to be admitted to TJ. Sure there are exception. But they are exceptions.

But at least own the fact that by posting in this forum, you are not getting a true sample. Just like posting in VA PS or AAP would give you a sample strongly skewed toward TJ being better.

[Anonymous]

OP I have a question. Are you going to these schools for the status or you believe they would be a good fit for your DC?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look. You are pretty clearly aiming for a certain type of answer by posting in P & I schools. You want posters who think private school is worth any cost. If you post in VA public schools or General Education or AAP, you will get a much different sampling of answers (like why would I not send my STEM kid to the best STEM school in the nation for free, and I do not want to let my high school freshman leave home).

TJ and top BSs get very different applicants with different priorities, and comparing them to find the "best" is apples and oranges. If you have a kid at a TJ and/or top BS level, then you go with their needs and the needs of your family. They are looking for different things in their applicant, and I doubt many TJ kids are well rounded enough for a top BS, or the top BS kids have the STEM chops to be admitted to TJ. Sure there are exception. But they are exceptions.

But at least own the fact that by posting in this forum, you are not getting a true sample. Just like posting in VA PS or AAP would give you a sample strongly skewed toward TJ being better.

+1 I wonder if this is just a troll trying to stir the pot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TJ Class of 2016 has students going to Harvard (6), MIT (13), Williams (1), Caltech (3), Harvey Mudd (1), Stanford (7), Berkeley (12), Chicago (13), Michigan (11), Brown (3), USAF (1), USCG (1), Carnegie Mellon (23), Penn (7), Yale (7), Dartmouth (4), Georgia Tech (6), Duke (8), Columbia (9), Cornell (8), Princeton (6), Olin (2), Wellesley (1), Swarthmore (3), Georgetown (5), Vanderbilt (3), Washington U. (2), Purdue (8), Rose-Hulman (2), Rennslauer (6), Rochester Tech (4). That is about 40% of the class of something like 457.

Another 1/3 go to UVA (81), W&M (32), or VA Tech (35).

Others go to places like NYU, UCLA, IU, Notre Dame, Colby, Bowdoin, VCU (6), JMU (3), George Mason (11), U of Colorado, Reed, Oregon State, Miami, USC, schools abroad, Richmond, Case Western, Penn State, GW, Syracuse, Rutgers.

A sizable number of TJ students end up at VA state universities. My kid can accomplish this from a regular/good/run-of-the-mill VA public high school. What's all the fuss?

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Exactly pp.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ Class of 2016 has students going to Harvard (6), MIT (13), Williams (1), Caltech (3), Harvey Mudd (1), Stanford (7), Berkeley (12), Chicago (13), Michigan (11), Brown (3), USAF (1), USCG (1), Carnegie Mellon (23), Penn (7), Yale (7), Dartmouth (4), Georgia Tech (6), Duke (8), Columbia (9), Cornell (8), Princeton (6), Olin (2), Wellesley (1), Swarthmore (3), Georgetown (5), Vanderbilt (3), Washington U. (2), Purdue (8), Rose-Hulman (2), Rennslauer (6), Rochester Tech (4). That is about 40% of the class of something like 457.

Another 1/3 go to UVA (81), W&M (32), or VA Tech (35).

Others go to places like NYU, UCLA, IU, Notre Dame, Colby, Bowdoin, VCU (6), JMU (3), George Mason (11), U of Colorado, Reed, Oregon State, Miami, USC, schools abroad, Richmond, Case Western, Penn State, GW, Syracuse, Rutgers.

A sizable number of TJ students end up at VA state universities. My kid can accomplish this from a regular/good/run-of-the-mill VA public high school. What's all the fuss?

Maybe that one HS sent 6 kids to Harvard, 13 (!!) to MIT, 3 to Cal Tech, 7 to Stanford, 7 to Yale, 23 to Carnagie Melon, etc. Can you any other HS that does that? The bottom 1/2 of TJ goes to UVA & W&M. Is that really true at a "run of the mill" FCPS HS?

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Anonymous wrote:TJ Class of 2016 has students going to Harvard (6), MIT (13), Williams (1), Caltech (3), Harvey Mudd (1), Stanford (7), Berkeley (12), Chicago (13), Michigan (11), Brown (3), USAF (1), USCG (1), Carnegie Mellon (23), Penn (7), Yale (7), Dartmouth (4), Georgia Tech (6), Duke (8), Columbia (9), Cornell (8), Princeton (6), Olin (2), Wellesley (1), Swarthmore (3), Georgetown (5), Vanderbilt (3), Washington U. (2), Purdue (8), Rose-Hulman (2), Rennslauer (6), Rochester Tech (4). That is about 40% of the class of something like 457.

Another 1/3 go to UVA (81), W&M (32), or VA Tech (35).

Others go to places like NYU, UCLA, IU, Notre Dame, Colby, Bowdoin, VCU (6), JMU (3), George Mason (11), U of Colorado, Reed, Oregon State, Miami, USC, schools abroad, Richmond, Case Western, Penn State, GW, Syracuse, Rutgers.

A sizable number of TJ students end up at VA state universities. My kid can accomplish this from a regular/good/run-of-the-mill VA public high school. What's all the fuss?

Maybe that one HS sent 6 kids to Harvard, 13 (!!) to MIT, 3 to Cal Tech, 7 to Stanford, 7 to Yale, 23 to Carnagie Melon, etc. Can you any other HS that does that? The bottom 1/2 of TJ goes to UVA & W&M. Is that really true at a "run of the mill" FCPS HS?

Okay, TJ is great... TJ is great... TJ is great... And you are really pathetic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:TJ Class of 2016 has students going to Harvard (6), MIT (13), Williams (1), Caltech (3), Harvey Mudd (1), Stanford (7), Berkeley (12), Chicago (13), Michigan (11), Brown (3), USAF (1), USCG (1), Carnegie Mellon (23), Penn (7), Yale (7), Dartmouth (4), Georgia Tech (6), Duke (8), Columbia (9), Cornell (8), Princeton (6), Olin (2), Wellesley (1), Swarthmore (3), Georgetown (5), Vanderbilt (3), Washington U. (2), Purdue (8), Rose-Hulman (2), Rennslauer (6), Rochester Tech (4). That is about 40% of the class of something like 457.

Another 1/3 go to UVA (81), W&M (32), or VA Tech (35).

Others go to places like NYU, UCLA, IU, Notre Dame, Colby, Bowdoin, VCU (6), JMU (3), George Mason (11), U of Colorado, Reed, Oregon State, Miami, USC, schools abroad, Richmond, Case Western, Penn State, GW, Syracuse, Rutgers.

A sizable number of TJ students end up at VA state universities. My kid can accomplish this from a regular/good/run-of-the-mill VA public high school. What's all the fuss?

Maybe that one HS sent 6 kids to Harvard, 13 (!!) to MIT, 3 to Cal Tech, 7 to Stanford, 7 to Yale, 23 to Carnagie Melon, etc. Can you any other HS that does that? The bottom 1/2 of TJ goes to UVA & W&M. Is that really true at a "run of the mill" FCPS HS?

It's a STEM-focused high school. I suspect that other STEM-focused magnet schools send similar percentages to MIT, Cal Tech, GA Tech, Tech Tech, etc. Btw, you have no idea if the bottom, middle or top TJ students attend VA state schools. What is clear is that those three state schools take about a third of TJ students (if you include JMU, GM, etc, you're very close to 40%). That's fine, but not as impressive as you would like to lead others to believe.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ Class of 2016 has students going to Harvard (6), MIT (13), Williams (1), Caltech (3), Harvey Mudd (1), Stanford (7), Berkeley (12), Chicago (13), Michigan (11), Brown (3), USAF (1), USCG (1), Carnegie Mellon (23), Penn (7), Yale (7), Dartmouth (4), Georgia Tech (6), Duke (8), Columbia (9), Cornell (8), Princeton (6), Olin (2), Wellesley (1), Swarthmore (3), Georgetown (5), Vanderbilt (3), Washington U. (2), Purdue (8), Rose-Hulman (2), Rennslauer (6), Rochester Tech (4). That is about 40% of the class of something like 457.

Another 1/3 go to UVA (81), W&M (32), or VA Tech (35).

Others go to places like NYU, UCLA, IU, Notre Dame, Colby, Bowdoin, VCU (6), JMU (3), George Mason (11), U of Colorado, Reed, Oregon State, Miami, USC, schools abroad, Richmond, Case Western, Penn State, GW, Syracuse, Rutgers.

A sizable number of TJ students end up at VA state universities. My kid can accomplish this from a regular/good/run-of-the-mill VA public high school. What's all the fuss?

Maybe that one HS sent 6 kids to Harvard, 13 (!!) to MIT, 3 to Cal Tech, 7 to Stanford, 7 to Yale, 23 to Carnagie Melon, etc. Can you any other HS that does that? The bottom 1/2 of TJ goes to UVA & W&M. Is that really true at a "run of the mill" FCPS HS?

A friend's DD just graduated from a "regular" VA public high school-she said 1 is going Ivy, top few to UVA, W/M and VT. Bigger class size than TJ.

[Anonymous]

TJ is great, but the alumni network for a top-tier BS is much bigger and more connected throughout the US. I've got kids at a big 3 and I've heard some of the high net worth people chatting about Andover and Exeter goings-on (they're alums). I expect TJ alums may do that but the network is probably much smaller. I'd also be interested in what the TJ alum participation % is at TJ (i.e., if donations are accepted from alums or what the percentage is of alums who return for TJ reunions). That would give some indication of how important the alumni network is considered to be among alums -- what the value is among TJ alums of being a fellow TJ alum. Top tier BS's have insanely high loyalty and participation numbers that are the envy of private day schools --- 40+ percent donate annually to their school.