Top Tier Boarding school vs. TJ

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And the numbers are not on par with magnets/privates in NY, MA ect

Not true. TJ has the best top college acceptances along with few elite BS nad public magnets.

Np, the TJ numbers are not particularly impressive given the large size of the class.

Based on the last 5 years, TJ has the most or one of the most acceptances to MIT (10- 17), Princeton (9 - 16), Stanford (10-14), Cornell (12-29), Michigan (14-28), Duke (9- 16), Berkeley (16 - 24), Yale (7 - 11) etc.

Common TJ boosters. I hold you to a higher standard analytically than this. The PP was referring to percentage of class and not absolute numbers. Try again.

He will just regurgitate the same stats over and over... The guy has no shame.

[Anonymous]

Someone should just write a script for these debates, because they're the same every time.

A: TJ has the best college results.
B: No, [insert local private school] has better results.
A: TJ had 12 to [insert top college] this year!
B: But [local private] had 8, which is a far higher percentage.
A: TJ still had more.
B: But TJ's class is 5 times bigger, so of course it has more.
A: The only reason TJ doesn't have more is because most of its students are non-legacies who can't afford to attend those top colleges.
B: But TJ is in one of the wealthiest counties in the US, it's students drive BMWs, and many of the parents attended top colleges.
A: Yeah, because TJ's the best!

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone should just write a script for these debates, because they're the same every time.

A: TJ has the best college results.
B: No, [insert local private school] has better results.
A: TJ had 12 to [insert top college] this year!
B: But [local private] had 8, which is a far higher percentage.
A: TJ still had more.
B: But TJ's class is 5 times bigger, so of course it has more.
A: The only reason TJ doesn't have more is because most of its students are non-legacies who can't afford to attend those top colleges.
B: But TJ is in one of the wealthiest counties in the US, it's students drive BMWs, and many of the parents attended top colleges.
A: Yeah, because TJ's the best!

All your "As" are by the same guy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the numbers are not on par with magnets/privates in NY, MA ect

Not true. TJ has the best top college acceptances along with few elite BS nad public magnets.

Np, the TJ numbers are not particularly impressive given the large size of the class.

Based on the last 5 years, TJ has the most or one of the most acceptances to MIT (10- 17), Princeton (9 - 16), Stanford (10-14), Cornell (12-29), Michigan (14-28), Duke (9- 16), Berkeley (16 - 24), Yale (7 - 11) etc.

A top local school - such as St Albans - is sending very similar numbers to those top colleges ... but with a class that's about 1/6th the size of TJ. If we combined the college results of Sidwell, STA, NCS, GDS, and Maret, we'd have a school about the same size as TJ. Want to compare the college results of those two similarly sized groups?

I doubt that if you combine the top 5 private schools that you will have 17 going to MIT, but go ahead, prove me wrong. You also realize TJ is free, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the numbers are not on par with magnets/privates in NY, MA ect

Not true. TJ has the best top college acceptances along with few elite BS nad public magnets.

Np, the TJ numbers are not particularly impressive given the large size of the class.

Based on the last 5 years, TJ has the most or one of the most acceptances to MIT (10- 17), Princeton (9 - 16), Stanford (10-14), Cornell (12-29), Michigan (14-28), Duke (9- 16), Berkeley (16 - 24), Yale (7 - 11) etc.

A top local school - such as St Albans - is sending very similar numbers to those top colleges ... but with a class that's about 1/6th the size of TJ. If we combined the college results of Sidwell, STA, NCS, GDS, and Maret, we'd have a school about the same size as TJ. Want to compare the college results of those two similarly sized groups?

St. Albans does not have those numbers...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should just write a script for these debates, because they're the same every time.

A: TJ has the best college results.
B: No, [insert local private school] has better results.
A: TJ had 12 to [insert top college] this year!
B: But [local private] had 8, which is a far higher percentage.
A: TJ still had more.
B: But TJ's class is 5 times bigger, so of course it has more.
A: The only reason TJ doesn't have more is because most of its students are non-legacies who can't afford to attend those top colleges.
B: But TJ is in one of the wealthiest counties in the US, it's students drive BMWs, and many of the parents attended top colleges.
A: Yeah, because TJ's the best!

All your "As" are by the same guy!

Don't forget about 180 acceptances to UVA and about 160 acceptances to William & Mary for TJ grads!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I no longer live in DC and feel confident that TJ means nothing in my current big city (bigger than DC). I did interview someone on her 40s that still had a DC "big 3" school on her résumé
That seemed laughable. Many of the opinions on boarding school here are outdated and uninformed. The very top schools have massive aid budgets and pull from the whole country as well as some of the most ambitious and prepared kids the the world and have endowments nearing a billion dollars. Not a fair fight.

I agree that a top boarding school is a different world than TJ. But for a public school its Ivy acceptance is VERY high. There are other magnets in other cities that are comparable. Its new world and being tech savvy is a big plus.

Unfortunately for the strength of its student body, its Ivy acceptance is below par.

Actually it's ivy acceptance is excellent. TJ is a STEM school so many go to technical universities like MIT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone should just write a script for these debates, because they're the same every time.

A: TJ has the best college results.
B: No, [insert local private school] has better results.
A: TJ had 12 to [insert top college] this year!
B: But [local private] had 8, which is a far higher percentage.
A: TJ still had more.
B: But TJ's class is 5 times bigger, so of course it has more.
A: The only reason TJ doesn't have more is because most of its students are non-legacies who can't afford to attend those top colleges.
B: But TJ is in one of the wealthiest counties in the US, it's students drive BMWs, and many of the parents attended top colleges.
A: Yeah, because TJ's the best!

TJ is certainly better than the local privates. Comparable schools are Andover, Exeter, Harker etc. (Hunter maybe, although not sure if that one is private) which are way better than the DC ones.

[Anonymous]

16:33 I would do the math OVER FIVE years. Some classes are very strong.
The TJ troll discounts Boston Latin, Bronx Science, Stuyvesant, the Eight Schools Association and numerous NY privates that beat any DC area school placement.

[Anonymous]

Random thoughts about this stupid debate:

A lot of privates in DC don't have the history that New England boarding schools do or NYC privates. Their growth is newer so it doesn't really make sense to compare them to those schools.

TJ is probably the top magnet in the country and has an impressive list of college acceptances. It is very different than a boarding school because the students don't live there.

Comparing TJ to HADES is like comparing apples to oranges. They are very different schools. They both have their strengths and weaknesses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should just write a script for these debates, because they're the same every time.

A: TJ has the best college results.
B: No, [insert local private school] has better results.
A: TJ had 12 to [insert top college] this year!
B: But [local private] had 8, which is a far higher percentage.
A: TJ still had more.
B: But TJ's class is 5 times bigger, so of course it has more.
A: The only reason TJ doesn't have more is because most of its students are non-legacies who can't afford to attend those top colleges.
B: But TJ is in one of the wealthiest counties in the US, it's students drive BMWs, and many of the parents attended top colleges.
A: Yeah, because TJ's the best!

TJ is certainly better than the local privates. Comparable schools are Andover, Exeter, Harker etc. (Hunter maybe, although not sure if that one is private) which are way better than the DC ones.

TJ is a local HS so it's unlikely that it can compete with schools that draw high-performing students from all over the country. There's no harm in believing otherwise, though, except that you come off as a desperate striver living vicariously through your kids.

[Anonymous]

Huh? I have been following this thread, i have no kid at TJ, dont even live in Virginia. But to insinuate that TJ students are anything but high performing shows that the last poster is not objective, further proved by their nasty comment at the end. Thus, I declare TJ the winner of this round. Sorry PP, but you blew it for your team with your snotty and vindictive tone. Careful or someone might say the sterotype is true.

[Anonymous]

Not the previous PP: TJ is a high performing school for sure but its college placement would not lead one to believe it is the highest performing school in the world or in America.

Over five years schools like Boston Latin placed 83 students at Harvard and Andover placed 41 over three years --- do note that those schools have high placement numbers at other elites colleges.

I think students get an excellent education at any of these schools but the TJ banter ignores the reality that some schools have better placement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not the previous PP: TJ is a high performing school for sure but its college placement would not lead one to believe it is the highest performing school in the world or in America.

Over five years schools like Boston Latin placed 83 students at Harvard and Andover placed 41 over three years --- do note that those schools have high placement numbers at other elites colleges.

You are only looking at Harvard. You should look at top 25 schools. Some 90 percent of TJ grads enroll at top 25 schools.
I think students get an excellent education at any of these schools but the TJ banter ignores the reality that some schools have better placement.