Would you let your 4th and Kindergardener walk to school w/out an adult

Anonymous
Well here are some other articles.

In 2001, 840,279 people (adults and children) were reported missing to the FBI's National Crime Information Center (NCIC). The FBI estimates that 85 to 90 percent of those (roughly 750,000 people or 2,000 per day) reported missing were children. The vast majority of these cases are resolved within hours.

In 80 percent of abductions by strangers, the first contact between the child and the abductor occurs within a quarter mile of the child's home.

Most potential abductors grab their victims on the street or try to lure them into their vehicles.

About 74 percent of the victims of nonfamily child abduction are girls.

Acting quickly is critical. Seventy-four percent of abducted children who are ultimately murdered are dead within three hours of the abduction.

One in five children 10 to 17 years old receive unwanted sexual solicitations online.

http://www.parents.com/kids/safety/stranger-safety/child-abduction-facts/

http://www.missingkids.org/KeyFacts

Anonymous
I walked to school uphill both ways as a toddler in blizzards and heat waves, crawling on my hands and knees, by myself, with no crossing guards across 4 lane highways, 4 miles there and back.
Anonymous
More kids die in school than in stranger abductions/kidnappings.

Do you send your kids to school?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well here are some other articles.

In 2001, 840,279 people (adults and children) were reported missing to the FBI's National Crime Information Center (NCIC). The FBI estimates that 85 to 90 percent of those (roughly 750,000 people or 2,000 per day) reported missing were children. The vast majority of these cases are resolved within hours.

In 80 percent of abductions by strangers, the first contact between the child and the abductor occurs within a quarter mile of the child's home.

Most potential abductors grab their victims on the street or try to lure them into their vehicles.

About 74 percent of the victims of nonfamily child abduction are girls.

Acting quickly is critical. Seventy-four percent of abducted children who are ultimately murdered are dead within three hours of the abduction.

One in five children 10 to 17 years old receive unwanted sexual solicitations online.

http://www.parents.com/kids/safety/stranger-safety/child-abduction-facts/

http://www.missingkids.org/KeyFacts



Are you not seeing that most of those reported missing children are NOT stereotypical familial kidnappings? Did you read that DOJ report? Most of them are children reported as missing due to custody battles, runaways, AND MOSTLY missing FOR BENIGN REASONS AND FOUND. Read the report (and its statistical methodology if you wish) and stop cutting and pasting random statements from "parents.com" or "missingkids.org."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well here are some other articles.

In 2001, 840,279 people (adults and children) were reported missing to the FBI's National Crime Information Center (NCIC). The FBI estimates that 85 to 90 percent of those (roughly 750,000 people or 2,000 per day) reported missing were children. The vast majority of these cases are resolved within hours.

In 80 percent of abductions by strangers, the first contact between the child and the abductor occurs within a quarter mile of the child's home.

Most potential abductors grab their victims on the street or try to lure them into their vehicles.

About 74 percent of the victims of nonfamily child abduction are girls.

Acting quickly is critical. Seventy-four percent of abducted children who are ultimately murdered are dead within three hours of the abduction.

One in five children 10 to 17 years old receive unwanted sexual solicitations online.

http://www.parents.com/kids/safety/stranger-safety/child-abduction-facts/

http://www.missingkids.org/KeyFacts



You forgot to add the most important part of the bolded above...

Only a tiny minority of kidnapped children are taken by strangers. Between 1990 and 2001 the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children handled only 515 stranger abductions, 3.1 percent of its caseload. A 2000 report by the Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Programs reported that more than 3/4 of kidnappings were committed by family members or acquaintances of the child. The study also found that children abducted by strangers were harmed less frequently than those taken by acquaintances.


PP, you have to go calm down and take some medication.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well here are some other articles.

In 2001, 840,279 people (adults and children) were reported missing to the FBI's National Crime Information Center (NCIC). The FBI estimates that 85 to 90 percent of those (roughly 750,000 people or 2,000 per day) reported missing were children. The vast majority of these cases are resolved within hours.

In 80 percent of abductions by strangers, the first contact between the child and the abductor occurs within a quarter mile of the child's home.

Most potential abductors grab their victims on the street or try to lure them into their vehicles.

About 74 percent of the victims of nonfamily child abduction are girls.

Acting quickly is critical. Seventy-four percent of abducted children who are ultimately murdered are dead within three hours of the abduction.

One in five children 10 to 17 years old receive unwanted sexual solicitations online.

http://www.parents.com/kids/safety/stranger-safety/child-abduction-facts/

http://www.missingkids.org/KeyFacts



You forgot to add the most important part of the bolded above...

Only a tiny minority of kidnapped children are taken by strangers. Between 1990 and 2001 the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children handled only 515 stranger abductions, 3.1 percent of its caseload. A 2000 report by the Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Programs reported that more than 3/4 of kidnappings were committed by family members or acquaintances of the child. The study also found that children abducted by strangers were harmed less frequently than those taken by acquaintances.


PP, you have to go calm down and take some medication.



I don't take any medication and don't need it. You go ahead and let your K student walk to school. I'm going to wait until mine is older. I even let my 4th grade student walk to the bus stop by herself. So there. lol.
Anonymous
I walked to half day kindergarten by myself a few times. This was in the 70's. Walked with my 5th grade brother most of the time. Also walked to my friend's house, which around a few corners, on a regular basis. I don't see a problem at all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How hard it is to drive or walk them OP? Are you lazy?


See and THIS comment right here is the epitome of this generation of crappy parents. I actually think the moms walking or driving their kids are lazy. They rather just do than teach. Teaching kids how to do for themselves is NOT lazy, it is a necessity. This generation of parents who hover and judge those that don't hover are ruining our kids. There are kids in 1st grade that can't tie shoes, can't cross a street, can't walk a block to a friends house, can't even make their own lunch or pack their schoolbag. Some can't even pick out their own damn clothes or make their bed. The parents rather just do it for them. Too lazy to take the team to teach them. "But they are reading at an 8th grade level" they say. So what!!! If you wait too long to teach life skills, they don't want to listen to you anymore. If you wait too long, you are enabling them to always depend on you. If you wait too long, they will feel inadequate and not able to handle themselves, second guess themselves, and will become anxious/depressed in their tween and teen years.

So PP, stop with what you think is this PC bullshit of calling out moms for letting their kids do things on their own. Saying they are lazy because YOU can't let go of the reigns and have it in your subconscious that being a good mom is doing everything for your kids all the time. And to be honest with you, Moms would be a lot less stressed, anxious, judgy and maybe even (gasp) a lot nicer to other moms if they could take this weight off their back. Win win for everyone.

PEACE


While I agree that the pp you responded to was rude, but shucks, I'm the lazy one. But, only because our nearly mile walk is one of my favorites ways to catch up. I already miss that time with my MS kid who rides the bus.
Anonymous
I'm pp and I have no idea who I responded to, never mind.
Anonymous
Compiling from the other thread, I am getting about 10 attempted abductions in the last 6 months in our area. You all still think a 5 year old should be out walking by themselves, or with a sibling they may or may not listen to?
Crestwood (NW DC)
Smithsonian Air and Space
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/police-seek-man-in-abduction-attempt-at-smithsonians-air-and-space-museum/2016/03/23/b1b9b788-f112-11e5-85a6-2132cf446d0a_story.html
Several in Bethesda – East Bethesda, near Banockburn
Near Tilden MS on Old Georgetown Road
Northern VA near intersection of Rt 7 and Fairfax County Parkway
Falls Church City
South Arlington
Yorktown HS neighborhood
Cabin John
Science Museum in Richmond – inappropriate sexual touching of a 9 year old may be related to abduction attempt in Smithsonian
http://wtvr.com/2016/03/15/capitol-police-investigating-link-with-dc-attempted-abduction-and-science-museum-sexual-assault/
Anonymous
I would not allow my Kindergartner to do this. Even though she knows the rules of how not to get into a car with a stranger, I do not have the confidence that she is mature enough to deal with that situation. Fourth grader most likely (but my kids aren't that old yet).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Compiling from the other thread, I am getting about 10 attempted abductions in the last 6 months in our area. You all still think a 5 year old should be out walking by themselves, or with a sibling they may or may not listen to?
Crestwood (NW DC)
Smithsonian Air and Space
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/police-seek-man-in-abduction-attempt-at-smithsonians-air-and-space-museum/2016/03/23/b1b9b788-f112-11e5-85a6-2132cf446d0a_story.html
Several in Bethesda – East Bethesda, near Banockburn
Near Tilden MS on Old Georgetown Road
Northern VA near intersection of Rt 7 and Fairfax County Parkway
Falls Church City
South Arlington
Yorktown HS neighborhood
Cabin John
Science Museum in Richmond – inappropriate sexual touching of a 9 year old may be related to abduction attempt in Smithsonian
http://wtvr.com/2016/03/15/capitol-police-investigating-link-with-dc-attempted-abduction-and-science-museum-sexual-assault/


It must be so hard to be you. Your internal stress is just slowly eating away at you.

If you let your 4th grader walk to the bus stop alone how is it much different from a 4th grader and K siblings walking 1 block to school together? I honestly can not for the life of me understand your rationale of googling up every bad event that has ever happened and using that as a factor. Will your kids go to college? They get kidnapped there too. Kids die in school shootings. Cars crash, Planes crash, trains derail, weather events occur. You must put so much anxiety and fear into your kids that they will have a hard time living a happy life.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Compiling from the other thread, I am getting about 10 attempted abductions in the last 6 months in our area. You all still think a 5 year old should be out walking by themselves, or with a sibling they may or may not listen to?
Crestwood (NW DC)
Smithsonian Air and Space
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/police-seek-man-in-abduction-attempt-at-smithsonians-air-and-space-museum/2016/03/23/b1b9b788-f112-11e5-85a6-2132cf446d0a_story.html
Several in Bethesda – East Bethesda, near Banockburn
Near Tilden MS on Old Georgetown Road
Northern VA near intersection of Rt 7 and Fairfax County Parkway
Falls Church City
South Arlington
Yorktown HS neighborhood
Cabin John
Science Museum in Richmond – inappropriate sexual touching of a 9 year old may be related to abduction attempt in Smithsonian
http://wtvr.com/2016/03/15/capitol-police-investigating-link-with-dc-attempted-abduction-and-science-museum-sexual-assault/


It must be so hard to be you. Your internal stress is just slowly eating away at you.

If you let your 4th grader walk to the bus stop alone how is it much different from a 4th grader and K siblings walking 1 block to school together? I honestly can not for the life of me understand your rationale of googling up every bad event that has ever happened and using that as a factor. Will your kids go to college? They get kidnapped there too. Kids die in school shootings. Cars crash, Planes crash, trains derail, weather events occur. You must put so much anxiety and fear into your kids that they will have a hard time living a happy life.


That is not true. All of the stuff from above is from one thread on DCUM. Just because I know this stuff doesn't mean I burden my children with it. I am glad you all are so concerned about my well being, but I am doing fine. I have never taken any medication other than allergy medicine, so no worries there. I just happen to be interested in this stuff, and I want my kids to be self aware and know what to do in different situations. Like the John Walsh video has a woman come up to kids in the park and ask for help looking for a lost kitten. Do your kids know what to do in that situation? It might not hurt to watch the video like I've suggested.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Compiling from the other thread, I am getting about 10 attempted abductions in the last 6 months in our area. You all still think a 5 year old should be out walking by themselves, or with a sibling they may or may not listen to?
Crestwood (NW DC)
Smithsonian Air and Space
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/police-seek-man-in-abduction-attempt-at-smithsonians-air-and-space-museum/2016/03/23/b1b9b788-f112-11e5-85a6-2132cf446d0a_story.html
Several in Bethesda – East Bethesda, near Banockburn
Near Tilden MS on Old Georgetown Road
Northern VA near intersection of Rt 7 and Fairfax County Parkway
Falls Church City
South Arlington
Yorktown HS neighborhood
Cabin John
Science Museum in Richmond – inappropriate sexual touching of a 9 year old may be related to abduction attempt in Smithsonian
http://wtvr.com/2016/03/15/capitol-police-investigating-link-with-dc-attempted-abduction-and-science-museum-sexual-assault/


It must be so hard to be you. Your internal stress is just slowly eating away at you.

If you let your 4th grader walk to the bus stop alone how is it much different from a 4th grader and K siblings walking 1 block to school together? I honestly can not for the life of me understand your rationale of googling up every bad event that has ever happened and using that as a factor. Will your kids go to college? They get kidnapped there too. Kids die in school shootings. Cars crash, Planes crash, trains derail, weather events occur. You must put so much anxiety and fear into your kids that they will have a hard time living a happy life.


That is not true. All of the stuff from above is from one thread on DCUM. Just because I know this stuff doesn't mean I burden my children with it. I am glad you all are so concerned about my well being, but I am doing fine. I have never taken any medication other than allergy medicine, so no worries there. I just happen to be interested in this stuff, and I want my kids to be self aware and know what to do in different situations. Like the John Walsh video has a woman come up to kids in the park and ask for help looking for a lost kitten. Do your kids know what to do in that situation? It might not hurt to watch the video like I've suggested.


There is a difference between a child being "self aware" & being convinced the world is terrible place filled with sinister people who are lurking in every corner, just waiting for the first opportunity to kidnap/rape/murder him or her. In fact, I'd say --& recent research about how helicopered kids fare once they reach young adulthood bares this out -- that being overprotected & not being trusted to handle age-appropriate fredoms & responsibilities can greatly hinder self awareness. This is more true when it comes to self-confidence.

Also, no one on this thread has recommended letting kids walk to school unaccompanied without first teaching them basic safety rules. There is a stark difference, however, between making kids aware of potential dangers & what they should & should not do in potentially harmful procedures & stiffling normal, age-appropriate & healthy childhood steps towards independence because of your paranoia about something statistically less likely than being struck by lightening twice happening to your kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Compiling from the other thread, I am getting about 10 attempted abductions in the last 6 months in our area. You all still think a 5 year old should be out walking by themselves, or with a sibling they may or may not listen to?
Crestwood (NW DC)
Smithsonian Air and Space
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/police-seek-man-in-abduction-attempt-at-smithsonians-air-and-space-museum/2016/03/23/b1b9b788-f112-11e5-85a6-2132cf446d0a_story.html
Several in Bethesda – East Bethesda, near Banockburn
Near Tilden MS on Old Georgetown Road
Northern VA near intersection of Rt 7 and Fairfax County Parkway
Falls Church City
South Arlington
Yorktown HS neighborhood
Cabin John
Science Museum in Richmond – inappropriate sexual touching of a 9 year old may be related to abduction attempt in Smithsonian
http://wtvr.com/2016/03/15/capitol-police-investigating-link-with-dc-attempted-abduction-and-science-museum-sexual-assault/


It must be so hard to be you. Your internal stress is just slowly eating away at you.

If you let your 4th grader walk to the bus stop alone how is it much different from a 4th grader and K siblings walking 1 block to school together? I honestly can not for the life of me understand your rationale of googling up every bad event that has ever happened and using that as a factor. Will your kids go to college? They get kidnapped there too. Kids die in school shootings. Cars crash, Planes crash, trains derail, weather events occur. You must put so much anxiety and fear into your kids that they will have a hard time living a happy life.


That is not true. All of the stuff from above is from one thread on DCUM. Just because I know this stuff doesn't mean I burden my children with it. I am glad you all are so concerned about my well being, but I am doing fine. I have never taken any medication other than allergy medicine, so no worries there. I just happen to be interested in this stuff, and I want my kids to be self aware and know what to do in different situations. Like the John Walsh video has a woman come up to kids in the park and ask for help looking for a lost kitten. Do your kids know what to do in that situation? It might not hurt to watch the video like I've suggested.


There is a difference between a child being "self aware" & being convinced the world is terrible place filled with sinister people who are lurking in every corner, just waiting for the first opportunity to kidnap/rape/murder him or her. In fact, I'd say --& recent research about how helicopered kids fare once they reach young adulthood bares this out -- that being overprotected & not being trusted to handle age-appropriate fredoms & responsibilities can greatly hinder self awareness. This is more true when it comes to self-confidence.

Also, no one on this thread has recommended letting kids walk to school unaccompanied without first teaching them basic safety rules. There is a stark difference, however, between making kids aware of potential dangers & what they should & should not do in potentially harmful procedures & stiffling normal, age-appropriate & healthy childhood steps towards independence because of your paranoia about something statistically less likely than being struck by lightening twice happening to your kids.



This is the thing with crazy. It's forever.
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