What will Closing D.G. General Mean for DCPS Elementary Schools?

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Anonymous wrote:So, let's assume there are 50 families at the ward 3 shelter, that each family stays 120 days, that each family has 1.5 kids, and that half of the kids are elementary school aged. This seems consistent with what I've been hearing from Cheh, etc.

So, there will be approximately 75 kids at the shelter at a time, and about 37 of them will be elementary school aged. Let's assume that about half decide to go to Eaton (noting that it may be time consuming and difficult to get the kids to their former schools as well as the high quality of Eaton). So, approximately 18 kids would go to Eaton. Then let's assume a third (so, 6) of those kids stay at Eaton after their families leave the shelter and, as is their right, for the subsequent school years. Now let's multiply that number (6) by the number of 120-days periods in a year (approximately 3).

Based on the assumptions above, Eaton would have 18 short-term additional students at a time, and would be adding 18 long-terms students per year, based on their families' time at the shelter. So who knows how many students of current or former homeless shelter residents will be at Eaton after a few years? One thing for sure, Eaton, and all of the other schools in a similar situation, will need extensive support to assist these children, who will have a much higher than average likelihood of being at-risk, and to accommodate the revolving door of a changing student body through the year (in addition to the usual number of students moving to and from the area). The idea that there will only be a "few homeless kids" is ridiculous and wholly underestimates the undertaking.

Ward 3/upper NW schools need to share this responsibility "in the best interest" of all the children involved. That is how the homeless children will be adequately helped without causing undue disruption to any one school.
Come on, everyone, put your money where you mouth is...everyone says they want to help the children...here is how we can do it.

You do realize that Ward 3 has the most diverse schools in the city, right? You do know that Ward 3 schools educate kids from all 8 wards, right? Ward 3 has been keeping DCPS viable for decades. Most Ward 3 people object only because our schools are bursting at the seems while most other wards have excess capacity. Maybe it's time for the other wards to do their part?

Do their part how? Is there any other school IB for a new shelter that isn't already 99% farm students? How does that make them more diverse?

The schools might be 99% FARMS, but the neighborhoods are not (with a few exceptions). It is not Ward 3 parents' fault that middle class parents from Wards 1,2,4,5, and soon 7 and 8 prefer to play lottery rather than promoting coordinated action and send their kids to their neighborhood schools. Ward 3 schools and families are indeed doing their part. It is Ward 1,2,4,5, 6 parents who are not doing it. Please stop blaming on Ward 3 parents, blame on yourselves, non-Ward 3 middle class parents, and on you going the easy way of lotteries and charters. If you look at the demographics , you see that the majority of Ward 1,2,4, 5, 6 ES MS and HS would be raising in no time if their IB families sent their kids to their IB schools.

Ward 3 parents are doing their part. What about you Ward 1,2,4,5, 6 parents?

I think you are a troll or just uninformed. Many of the Ward 6 ES have IB kids on the ECE WLs and are mostly IB up to 3rd grade. Many also have a number of homeless kids attending. Some have had drives to collect donations of supplies (hygiene, clothes, etc) for kids at the local shelter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, let's assume there are 50 families at the ward 3 shelter, that each family stays 120 days, that each family has 1.5 kids, and that half of the kids are elementary school aged. This seems consistent with what I've been hearing from Cheh, etc.

So, there will be approximately 75 kids at the shelter at a time, and about 37 of them will be elementary school aged. Let's assume that about half decide to go to Eaton (noting that it may be time consuming and difficult to get the kids to their former schools as well as the high quality of Eaton). So, approximately 18 kids would go to Eaton. Then let's assume a third (so, 6) of those kids stay at Eaton after their families leave the shelter and, as is their right, for the subsequent school years. Now let's multiply that number (6) by the number of 120-days periods in a year (approximately 3).

Based on the assumptions above, Eaton would have 18 short-term additional students at a time, and would be adding 18 long-terms students per year, based on their families' time at the shelter. So who knows how many students of current or former homeless shelter residents will be at Eaton after a few years? One thing for sure, Eaton, and all of the other schools in a similar situation, will need extensive support to assist these children, who will have a much higher than average likelihood of being at-risk, and to accommodate the revolving door of a changing student body through the year (in addition to the usual number of students moving to and from the area). The idea that there will only be a "few homeless kids" is ridiculous and wholly underestimates the undertaking.

Ward 3/upper NW schools need to share this responsibility "in the best interest" of all the children involved. That is how the homeless children will be adequately helped without causing undue disruption to any one school.
Come on, everyone, put your money where you mouth is...everyone says they want to help the children...here is how we can do it.

You do realize that Ward 3 has the most diverse schools in the city, right? You do know that Ward 3 schools educate kids from all 8 wards, right? Ward 3 has been keeping DCPS viable for decades. Most Ward 3 people object only because our schools are bursting at the seems while most other wards have excess capacity. Maybe it's time for the other wards to do their part?

Do their part how? Is there any other school IB for a new shelter that isn't already 99% farm students? How does that make them more diverse?

The schools might be 99% FARMS, but the neighborhoods are not (with a few exceptions). It is not Ward 3 parents' fault that middle class parents from Wards 1,2,4,5, and soon 7 and 8 prefer to play lottery rather than promoting coordinated action and send their kids to their neighborhood schools. Ward 3 schools and families are indeed doing their part. It is Ward 1,2,4,5, 6 parents who are not doing it. Please stop blaming on Ward 3 parents, blame on yourselves, non-Ward 3 middle class parents, and on you going the easy way of lotteries and charters. If you look at the demographics , you see that the majority of Ward 1,2,4, 5, 6 ES MS and HS would be raising in no time if their IB families sent their kids to their IB schools.

Ward 3 parents are doing their part. What about you Ward 1,2,4,5, 6 parents?

I think you are a troll or just uninformed. Many of the Ward 6 ES have IB kids on the ECE WLs and are mostly IB up to 3rd grade. Many also have a number of homeless kids attending. Some have had drives to collect donations of supplies (hygiene, clothes, etc) for kids at the local shelter.

I am not a troll and I am very well-informed. I happen to frequently interact at my Ward 3 middle school with well-off Ward 6 parents who, while complaining about our sense of entitlement, have stayed away from their IB school because of the high FARM percentage. Ward 6 Jefferson Middle and Eliot H. have IB population in the 25% range. L-Taylor, Tyler, Miner, P. Payne also are in the 25% range. If the IB families opted for their schools instead of lottering for Ward 3 schools or charters, they would flip the schools in a single year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, let's assume there are 50 families at the ward 3 shelter, that each family stays 120 days, that each family has 1.5 kids, and that half of the kids are elementary school aged. This seems consistent with what I've been hearing from Cheh, etc.

So, there will be approximately 75 kids at the shelter at a time, and about 37 of them will be elementary school aged. Let's assume that about half decide to go to Eaton (noting that it may be time consuming and difficult to get the kids to their former schools as well as the high quality of Eaton). So, approximately 18 kids would go to Eaton. Then let's assume a third (so, 6) of those kids stay at Eaton after their families leave the shelter and, as is their right, for the subsequent school years. Now let's multiply that number (6) by the number of 120-days periods in a year (approximately 3).

Based on the assumptions above, Eaton would have 18 short-term additional students at a time, and would be adding 18 long-terms students per year, based on their families' time at the shelter. So who knows how many students of current or former homeless shelter residents will be at Eaton after a few years? One thing for sure, Eaton, and all of the other schools in a similar situation, will need extensive support to assist these children, who will have a much higher than average likelihood of being at-risk, and to accommodate the revolving door of a changing student body through the year (in addition to the usual number of students moving to and from the area). The idea that there will only be a "few homeless kids" is ridiculous and wholly underestimates the undertaking.

Ward 3/upper NW schools need to share this responsibility "in the best interest" of all the children involved. That is how the homeless children will be adequately helped without causing undue disruption to any one school.
Come on, everyone, put your money where you mouth is...everyone says they want to help the children...here is how we can do it.

You do realize that Ward 3 has the most diverse schools in the city, right? You do know that Ward 3 schools educate kids from all 8 wards, right? Ward 3 has been keeping DCPS viable for decades. Most Ward 3 people object only because our schools are bursting at the seems while most other wards have excess capacity. Maybe it's time for the other wards to do their part?

Do their part how? Is there any other school IB for a new shelter that isn't already 99% farm students? How does that make them more diverse?

The schools might be 99% FARMS, but the neighborhoods are not (with a few exceptions). It is not Ward 3 parents' fault that middle class parents from Wards 1,2,4,5, and soon 7 and 8 prefer to play lottery rather than promoting coordinated action and send their kids to their neighborhood schools. Ward 3 schools and families are indeed doing their part. It is Ward 1,2,4,5, 6 parents who are not doing it. Please stop blaming on Ward 3 parents, blame on yourselves, non-Ward 3 middle class parents, and on you going the easy way of lotteries and charters. If you look at the demographics , you see that the majority of Ward 1,2,4, 5, 6 ES MS and HS would be raising in no time if their IB families sent their kids to their IB schools.

Ward 3 parents are doing their part. What about you Ward 1,2,4,5, 6 parents?

I think you are a troll or just uninformed. Many of the Ward 6 ES have IB kids on the ECE WLs and are mostly IB up to 3rd grade. Many also have a number of homeless kids attending. Some have had drives to collect donations of supplies (hygiene, clothes, etc) for kids at the local shelter.

I am not a troll and I am very well-informed. I happen to frequently interact at my Ward 3 middle school with well-off Ward 6 parents who, while complaining about our sense of entitlement, have stayed away from their IB school because of the high FARM percentage. Ward 6 Jefferson Middle and Eliot H. have IB population in the 25% range. L-Taylor, Tyler, Miner, P. Payne also are in the 25% range. If the IB families opted for their schools instead of lottering for Ward 3 schools or charters, they would flip the schools in a single year.

Even if they did "flip" there would still be a population of poor children at these schools. And then what? your ward 3 schools should still be off limits to homeless children and the rest of the city can welcome them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, let's assume there are 50 families at the ward 3 shelter, that each family stays 120 days, that each family has 1.5 kids, and that half of the kids are elementary school aged. This seems consistent with what I've been hearing from Cheh, etc.

So, there will be approximately 75 kids at the shelter at a time, and about 37 of them will be elementary school aged. Let's assume that about half decide to go to Eaton (noting that it may be time consuming and difficult to get the kids to their former schools as well as the high quality of Eaton). So, approximately 18 kids would go to Eaton. Then let's assume a third (so, 6) of those kids stay at Eaton after their families leave the shelter and, as is their right, for the subsequent school years. Now let's multiply that number (6) by the number of 120-days periods in a year (approximately 3).

Based on the assumptions above, Eaton would have 18 short-term additional students at a time, and would be adding 18 long-terms students per year, based on their families' time at the shelter. So who knows how many students of current or former homeless shelter residents will be at Eaton after a few years? One thing for sure, Eaton, and all of the other schools in a similar situation, will need extensive support to assist these children, who will have a much higher than average likelihood of being at-risk, and to accommodate the revolving door of a changing student body through the year (in addition to the usual number of students moving to and from the area). The idea that there will only be a "few homeless kids" is ridiculous and wholly underestimates the undertaking.

Ward 3/upper NW schools need to share this responsibility "in the best interest" of all the children involved. That is how the homeless children will be adequately helped without causing undue disruption to any one school.
Come on, everyone, put your money where you mouth is...everyone says they want to help the children...here is how we can do it.

You do realize that Ward 3 has the most diverse schools in the city, right? You do know that Ward 3 schools educate kids from all 8 wards, right? Ward 3 has been keeping DCPS viable for decades. Most Ward 3 people object only because our schools are bursting at the seems while most other wards have excess capacity. Maybe it's time for the other wards to do their part?

Do their part how? Is there any other school IB for a new shelter that isn't already 99% farm students? How does that make them more diverse?

The schools might be 99% FARMS, but the neighborhoods are not (with a few exceptions). It is not Ward 3 parents' fault that middle class parents from Wards 1,2,4,5, and soon 7 and 8 prefer to play lottery rather than promoting coordinated action and send their kids to their neighborhood schools. Ward 3 schools and families are indeed doing their part. It is Ward 1,2,4,5, 6 parents who are not doing it. Please stop blaming on Ward 3 parents, blame on yourselves, non-Ward 3 middle class parents, and on you going the easy way of lotteries and charters. If you look at the demographics , you see that the majority of Ward 1,2,4, 5, 6 ES MS and HS would be raising in no time if their IB families sent their kids to their IB schools.

Ward 3 parents are doing their part. What about you Ward 1,2,4,5, 6 parents?

You really have no idea what you are talking about. There are public housing complexes already located within the boundaries of at least 5 of the 8 proposed sites. I can think of possibly 1 of the other 7 schools that has Parcc scores over 20%. Eaton may have gotten the short end of the stick in ward 3, but this will pose as big if not bigger challenge for the other schools.