PK4 - what do you think of this list?

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Anonymous wrote:There is a charter that outperformed Janney and Mann?

Yes there are a few actually (when you compare each subgroup). Some do amazingly better in Sped for example.

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Anonymous wrote:Upper middle class kids perform about the same regardless of school. I went to DCPS in the eighties and nineties, had shit teachers, and somehow managed to attend an ivy and receive an advanced degree. Just because a certain population of kids does well doesn't mean the school is responsible.

This is true. The test scores at my neighborhood school were atrocious yet the 2 or 3 middle class kids who attend managed to score 4/5 on the standardized tests (you can tell by filtering for FARM performance vs overall school performance). When people say white kids perform better at one school vs another, they are statistically arguing about the performance of one or 2 children per grade not testing well. A better indicator is how a school is serving its minority and low income population.

[Anonymous]

FYI, potential MV commuter parents--I commute by bus with my PK and infant. Lots of busses (a couple that work for us.) The 90/92 can take you from the NOMA stop.

(The school's working for us as well, but you can read all about that elsewhere. It is not run by wizards, but it's fun, my kid is learning a lot--Spanish, other content (on track to read @ end of the year, but we'll see), and lots of social-emotional--and they love school. So does what I need it to. Good luck in the lottery, everyone!)

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Anonymous wrote:Upper middle class kids perform about the same regardless of school. I went to DCPS in the eighties and nineties, had shit teachers, and somehow managed to attend an ivy and receive an advanced degree. Just because a certain population of kids does well doesn't mean the school is responsible.

This is true. The test scores at my neighborhood school were atrocious yet the 2 or 3 middle class kids who attend managed to score 4/5 on the standardized tests (you can tell by filtering for FARM performance vs overall school performance). When people say white kids perform better at one school vs another, they are statistically arguing about the performance of one or 2 children per grade not testing well. A better indicator is how a school is serving its minority and low income population.

Actually the argument is that there are some charters that even do that better than DCPS. There is a charter hater that came on here shouting her hate and she should be put in her place. Also, many of these charters have more than 1-2 middle class kids per grade.

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Which charter schools did better serving low income children than DCPS?

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Can someone share where the information on sub group is that shows charter schools outperforming Janney and Mann?

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Anonymous wrote:Which charter schools did better serving low income children than DCPS?

Kipp, DC Prep, Basis for starters.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Upper middle class kids perform about the same regardless of school. I went to DCPS in the eighties and nineties, had shit teachers, and somehow managed to attend an ivy and receive an advanced degree. Just because a certain population of kids does well doesn't mean the school is responsible.

This is true. The test scores at my neighborhood school were atrocious yet the 2 or 3 middle class kids who attend managed to score 4/5 on the standardized tests (you can tell by filtering for FARM performance vs overall school performance). When people say white kids perform better at one school vs another, they are statistically arguing about the performance of one or 2 children per grade not testing well. A better indicator is how a school is serving its minority and low income population.

Actually the argument is that there are some charters that even do that better than DCPS. There is a charter hater that came on here shouting her hate and she should be put in her place. Also, many of these charters have more than 1-2 middle class kids per grade.

You think perhaps that's why they are doing better? Obv a school with more middle class kids is going to outperform its lower income counterpart. So perhaps some charter schools are better than some public schools. It's called socio economics.

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NOT school quality.

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Anonymous wrote:Which charter schools did better serving low income children than DCPS?

Kipp, DC Prep, Basis for starters.

Sorry I am new. Is this based on PARCC data?

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Anonymous wrote:Which charter schools did better serving low income children than DCPS?

Kipp, DC Prep, Basis for starters.

Keep in mind that children who are sent to charters have parents that are at least slightly more involved and educated even though they are still low income. That often changes the population from the typical public school. The point being that it is not school quality that is responsible. It is parenting as well as socio economics that yield specific test scores.

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Anonymous wrote:You will absolutely not get into Brent or Maury. You may get into Ludlow, but I'm not sure how much better Ludlow is compared to Watkins. Please go on a tour of Capitol Hill Montessori- it's a disaster. I've never met a parent who was truly happy. My friend is a special needs tutor who frequently works at CHML. She told me to run away far and fast. Mundo Verde is not a neighborhood school by any stretch, although I am guessing that you could take the Union Station Metro. If you're going that far i would consider other DCI feeders for a long term goal. What about Two Rivers Young? Too far?

Huh???!!! Please people, if you have no idea what you are talking about then just say nothing. I don't have a horse in this race but I cannot abide ignorance masquerading as wisdom. First of all, MV isn't close to a Metro. But the closes Metro stop isn't Union Station, it's NOMA.

You could GET ON AT UNION STATION which is on the hill. And you're right, you can then get off at NOMA and walk to MV which is actually close to the metro. Geez, why do you feel the need to scream at people online?

I live near union station and is actually a nice bike ride from there to MV. Have also walked with two kids (one in pk) and I think it is roughly 1.5 miles. I much prefer being above ground so will do just about anything to avoid the metro.

The secret to a quick commute is to cut through the DC government parking lot and then cross North Capitol at the relatively narrow and manageable part between that parking lot and the McDonald's. You then only have one block until you have fully protected bike lanes going south.

Many who live over here also commute with their kids on scooters.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Upper middle class kids perform about the same regardless of school. I went to DCPS in the eighties and nineties, had shit teachers, and somehow managed to attend an ivy and receive an advanced degree. Just because a certain population of kids does well doesn't mean the school is responsible.

This is true. The test scores at my neighborhood school were atrocious yet the 2 or 3 middle class kids who attend managed to score 4/5 on the standardized tests (you can tell by filtering for FARM performance vs overall school performance). When people say white kids perform better at one school vs another, they are statistically arguing about the performance of one or 2 children per grade not testing well. A better indicator is how a school is serving its minority and low income population.

Actually the argument is that there are some charters that even do that better than DCPS. There is a charter hater that came on here shouting her hate and she should be put in her place. Also, many of these charters have more than 1-2 middle class kids per grade.

You think perhaps that's why they are doing better? Obv a school with more middle class kids is going to outperform its lower income counterpart. So perhaps some charter schools are better than some public schools. It's called socio economics.

You people need to choose. Either Charters are horrible places with underqualified teachers and false success based on marketing prowess with no substantive educational benefit, or they are successful because of the overall higher SES and involved parents and the successes aren't because of any success by their teachers or admin. But you can't argue both.

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Sure you can. Many kids can be thrown into a pit of snakes and come out readers and thinkers.