S/O Has racism gotten worse...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Racism against minorities is declining.
Racism against whites is increasing.

Nope, people are just calling racism out more which is making some whites feel uncomfortable.

Agree. Original PP is totally delusional/paranoid.

Well, I am not sure what's your time frame for the comparison, by IMO Original PP is totally right, and you're the delusional/ paranoid one.

Want to go back 50 years ago, really?

Or 100?

What about 200?

Or 300?

[Anonymous]

Nope, there is less racism (and all other forms of discrimination) than ever.

Some people want to see themselves as the perpetual victim and will create their own little world. People who choose to live in reality are "racists"

PS what is it with this cultural appropriation bs?, America is a melting pot. Cultures should appropriate from each other. And btw AA's are some of the biggest appropriators out there.

[Anonymous]

No, it has absolutely gotten better. However, we/the media spends a lot more time dissecting microaggressions. There is some backlash to this, manifesting in people refusing to be politically correct (think Donald Trump).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Black lady here. I freely admit that I generally don't trust white people. We can be acquaintances, but nothing more. IME, most have proved themselves to be disingenuous and insincere. Not interested in forming any deep bond. I truly believe mixing of the races is a mistake. It's brought nothing but shit to the table.

Wow. So, what's the solution?

obviously Jim Crow Laws

in all seriousness, there have been a few scattered Black scholars wondering out loud what would've happened had the NAACP focused on enforcing the *but equal* part instead of insisting on integration.

There's an alternate history novel where the Confederacy wins and builds up two parallel and equal societies -- the President is always White but the Vice-President always Black. There's two UVA campuses right next to each other, one White the other Black.

I have two AA colleagues (teachers) who said their segregated schools came down hard on them and EXPECTED them to learn. One said - in all seriousness - that we destroyed the blacks by desegregating. It was an interesting discussion b/c her perspective was so very different.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What's really hard for me as an AA woman who grew up in MD, I just seemed like people used to try harder (our age - I'm 46). It was not PC to say something vile. I always had lots of different types of friends. Some of the things I read on this blog are appalling to me. I always wonder if this is what my friends were actually thinking.

As far of the so called "victim" syndrome that is always discussed here - it's difficult for a people to walk away from their history if it's never truly acknowledged. It's not helpful to say "get over it" or "my friend did it". That's not helpful. For any issue, people don't just get over it. Especially, if the impact has been so systemic.

I used to love this forum. Loved it. Now, I hate to even come back because I have to brace myself. I know Jeff wants an open forum, but I've been coming to this forum since 2003 and it's never been like this.

A little younger and raised outside this area, but I wonder the same thing, especially after reading the "has your opinion of black people changed" thread here where people admitted they had good friends who were black then said yes they thought the worst of black people and that we were whiners and other stereotypes.

+1. I said almost this very thing almost a year ago. That the most distressing thing about discussion about race on DCUM is that some of the people making some of these comments could be my neighbors, or parents of my kids' friends or co-workers - people that I would at lease consider "associates." That people who KNOW me, know how I raise my kids and know my priorities could secretly be thinking this about me and my family.

Propaganda is powerful as shit.

Yes, even to the point where a White person on the other thread (has your perception changed....) said that the images that he/she was seeing in the media influenced her views of AA more than the AA people that she actually knew and interacted with regularly. THAT floored me TBH.

Messages are incredible! Derren Brown, a British journalist, studies this. Please, please, please watch this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gy_XdhN4h0

When you see a constant message, you can't help but believe it. It's why I believe that black women clutch their purses when a black guy walks by. Ridiculous, but something we've been trained to do. You will not believe how powerful subliminal messages are to you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's really hard for me as an AA woman who grew up in MD, I just seemed like people used to try harder (our age - I'm 46). It was not PC to say something vile. I always had lots of different types of friends. Some of the things I read on this blog are appalling to me. I always wonder if this is what my friends were actually thinking.

As far of the so called "victim" syndrome that is always discussed here - it's difficult for a people to walk away from their history if it's never truly acknowledged. It's not helpful to say "get over it" or "my friend did it". That's not helpful. For any issue, people don't just get over it. Especially, if the impact has been so systemic.

I used to love this forum. Loved it. Now, I hate to even come back because I have to brace myself. I know Jeff wants an open forum, but I've been coming to this forum since 2003 and it's never been like this.

A little younger and raised outside this area, but I wonder the same thing, especially after reading the "has your opinion of black people changed" thread here where people admitted they had good friends who were black then said yes they thought the worst of black people and that we were whiners and other stereotypes.

+1. I said almost this very thing almost a year ago. That the most distressing thing about discussion about race on DCUM is that some of the people making some of these comments could be my neighbors, or parents of my kids' friends or co-workers - people that I would at lease consider "associates." That people who KNOW me, know how I raise my kids and know my priorities could secretly be thinking this about me and my family.

Propaganda is powerful as shit.

Yes, even to the point where a White person on the other thread (has your perception changed....) said that the images that he/she was seeing in the media influenced her views of AA more than the AA people that she actually knew and interacted with regularly. THAT floored me TBH.

Messages are incredible! Derren Brown, a British journalist, studies this. Please, please, please watch this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gy_XdhN4h0

When you see a constant message, you can't help but believe it. It's why I believe that black women clutch their purses when a black guy walks by. Ridiculous, but something we've been trained to do. You will not believe how powerful subliminal messages are to you.

PP - that youtube clip is not as clear as this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQXe1CokWqQ

Amazing

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here just for the white people who will tell us what racism is, how to feel about it, and what to do about it. Because, you know, whites are the real targets of racism.

And this attitude is part of the problem. I read your post and thought - another angry black person blaming all whites for living the privileged life.

turned off . . .

I'm not bending backward for ANY person. All people need to step it up.

done with the pity party

Strikes me that you're still pretty good at feeling sorry for yourself.

huh?
no

I wonder how many of you actually sit with black friends and have these discussions. I do all the time. We TALK about real issues. No one's feeling sorry to anyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The traditional white male power structure is being eroded away and it's obvious now even to the dimmest. The people who feel threatened by this have become extremely open and vocal about their hatred of minorities. I think it will get worse before it gets better, unfortunately.

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-1

There is no "traditional white male power structure"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nope, there is less racism (and all other forms of discrimination) than ever.

Some people want to see themselves as the perpetual victim and will create their own little world. People who choose to live in reality are "racists"

PS what is it with this cultural appropriation bs?, America is a melting pot. Cultures should appropriate from each other. And btw AA's are some of the biggest appropriators out there.

Amen

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Black lady here. I freely admit that I generally don't trust white people. We can be acquaintances, but nothing more. IME, most have proved themselves to be disingenuous and insincere. Not interested in forming any deep bond. I truly believe mixing of the races is a mistake. It's brought nothing but shit to the table.

Wow. So, what's the solution?

obviously Jim Crow Laws

in all seriousness, there have been a few scattered Black scholars wondering out loud what would've happened had the NAACP focused on enforcing the *but equal* part instead of insisting on integration.

There's an alternate history novel where the Confederacy wins and builds up two parallel and equal societies -- the President is always White but the Vice-President always Black. There's two UVA campuses right next to each other, one White the other Black.

I have two AA colleagues (teachers) who said their segregated schools came down hard on them and EXPECTED them to learn. One said - in all seriousness - that we destroyed the blacks by desegregating. It was an interesting discussion b/c her perspective was so very different.

My 72 year old mother says the same thing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Black lady here. I freely admit that I generally don't trust white people. We can be acquaintances, but nothing more. IME, most have proved themselves to be disingenuous and insincere. Not interested in forming any deep bond. I truly believe mixing of the races is a mistake. It's brought nothing but shit to the table.

Wow. So, what's the solution?

obviously Jim Crow Laws

in all seriousness, there have been a few scattered Black scholars wondering out loud what would've happened had the NAACP focused on enforcing the *but equal* part instead of insisting on integration.

There's an alternate history novel where the Confederacy wins and builds up two parallel and equal societies -- the President is always White but the Vice-President always Black. There's two UVA campuses right next to each other, one White the other Black.

I have two AA colleagues (teachers) who said their segregated schools came down hard on them and EXPECTED them to learn. One said - in all seriousness - that we destroyed the blacks by desegregating. It was an interesting discussion b/c her perspective was so very different.

My 72 year old mother says the same thing.

And, what's her proposal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, it has absolutely gotten better. However, we/the media spends a lot more time dissecting microaggressions. There is some backlash to this, manifesting in people refusing to be politically correct (think Donald Trump).

Being politically incorrect =/= being racist. It is about human decency.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No, it has absolutely gotten better. However, we/the media spends a lot more time dissecting microaggressions. There is some backlash to this, manifesting in people refusing to be politically correct (think Donald Trump).

Being politically incorrect =/= being racist. It is about human decency.

Human decency needn't come from speech codes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, it has absolutely gotten better. However, we/the media spends a lot more time dissecting microaggressions. There is some backlash to this, manifesting in people refusing to be politically correct (think Donald Trump).

Being politically incorrect =/= being racist. It is about human decency.

Human decency needn't come from speech codes.

Perpetuating nasty stereotypes about racial and ethnic minorities isn't lack of adherence to a speech code, it's racism. Period.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Black lady here. I freely admit that I generally don't trust white people. We can be acquaintances, but nothing more. IME, most have proved themselves to be disingenuous and insincere. Not interested in forming any deep bond. I truly believe mixing of the races is a mistake. It's brought nothing but shit to the table.

Wow. So, what's the solution?

obviously Jim Crow Laws

in all seriousness, there have been a few scattered Black scholars wondering out loud what would've happened had the NAACP focused on enforcing the *but equal* part instead of insisting on integration.

There's an alternate history novel where the Confederacy wins and builds up two parallel and equal societies -- the President is always White but the Vice-President always Black. There's two UVA campuses right next to each other, one White the other Black.

I have two AA colleagues (teachers) who said their segregated schools came down hard on them and EXPECTED them to learn. One said - in all seriousness - that we destroyed the blacks by desegregating. It was an interesting discussion b/c her perspective was so very different.

My 72 year old mother says the same thing.

And, what's her proposal?

As far as my colleagues were concerned, it's a "What if?" question. To this day, however, you'll see charters specifically designed for black males - or disadvantaged minority males. That's a form of segregation that's not frowned upon.