El Haynes vs. Powell: Are we crazy to...

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Anonymous wrote:OP, ignore these haters. They're probably mad they don't have the choice you do. I'd personally go with Powell. The school is "hot" at the moment and the trajectory is upward. El Haynes has always seemed meh to me, but I'm bullish on lang. immersion. Best of luck and keep doing what's best for you and your family. To hell with the DCUM jury/executioners!

Lol--"mad" about not having to choose between Haynes and Powell? You clearly haven't been paying attention. The OP is choosing between two very average schools (and I'm being generous). No one with good school options are envious of the OP...myself included.

NP. You can say "generous" all you want. Fact is, non FARM students at Haynes are doing great. Their scores match WOTP. You can call it average if you want, but we all know that means that there are too many minorities for you.

From a thread a few months ago:
White Student Proficient and Advanced
Ross 100.00%
Two Rivers 97.32%
Hearst 96.67%
Eaton 96.47%
Oyster 95.98%
Mann 95.63%
Inspired 95.45%
Maury 95.45%
Stokes 95.45%
Capital City 95.45%
Lafayette 95.06%
Stoddert 93.23%
Janney 93.04%
Key 91.76%
Murch 91.56%
Yu Ying 90.54%
Haynes 90.00%
Logan 84.38%
Brent 83.62%

Link to previous thread please & thanks

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/30/461815.page

[Anonymous]

Whoever OP is, if their children show up as new (formerly Powell) students in the first grade at EH, folks will know their parents didn't want them in a school with too many AA.

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Anonymous wrote:Whoever OP is, if their children show up as new (formerly Powell) students in the first grade at EH, folks will know their parents didn't want them in a school with too many AA.

Same goes for families at Powell; if they decide to stay.

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This thread has gotten way off topic. Everyone is so quick to jump to conclusions about OP's intent on diversity in the classroom. My reading was that she favored a high number of Hispanic/Latino families because that's what her family is, and the percentage at Powell is greater than at Haynes.

OP, the truth is that you're not going to get the answer you are looking for here. DCUM more or less turned on EL Haynes as soon as something newer came along. Creative Minds, Inspired Teaching, Mundo Verde, Powell, have all been praised while Cap City and EL Haynes have been shoved off to the side. Guess what, as soon as someone decides that West and Bruce Monroe are better than Powell, DCUM will turn on Powell, too.

I have a child in a low elementary grade at EL Haynes. I have been mostly happy. They have some planned changes for the coming school year - notably the aftercare program has been outsourced to Springboard, where it was previously run in-house - that I am not sure about. Dual language was not a priority for my family, but being secure at a school for as long as possible was. I feel confident that my child could stay at EL Haynes until he graduates from high school. I also suspect that more and more families whose children are in school at ELH now will continue through high school, or at least through middle school.

As an aside, in the spring ELH hosted a party/fundraiser for families and supporters where several of the seniors were present. One of the students received a Gates Millennium Scholarship. I spoke to him, and another student, and they talked about being at the ELH since elementary grades, and how much they loved the school. I was very impressed with all the students I met, as well as those who spoke about their experiences at the school. I think it's a special place. I think my son is probably going to be fine academically regardless of where he is, but I think that going to EL Haynes will make him a better person.

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OP here: thank you 18:32, this response is very helpful

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Anonymous wrote:OP here: thank you 18:32, this response is very helpful

Guess you're going to skip over all the other questions/comments, typical.

[Anonymous]

OP, I would suggest going to Haynes unless you love Powell and will stay until 5th and then move. Sure, you could try to lottery for middle, but I would be prepared to move after fifth if you stay at Powell.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I would suggest going to Haynes unless you love Powell and will stay until 5th and then move. Sure, you could try to lottery for middle, but I would be prepared to move after fifth if you stay at Powell.

Or they can go to Haynes for middle. I know several children that completed elementary at Powell and now attend Haynes. CHEC is not the only option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, ignore these haters. They're probably mad they don't have the choice you do. I'd personally go with Powell. The school is "hot" at the moment and the trajectory is upward. El Haynes has always seemed meh to me, but I'm bullish on lang. immersion. Best of luck and keep doing what's best for you and your family. To hell with the DCUM jury/executioners!

Lol--"mad" about not having to choose between Haynes and Powell? You clearly haven't been paying attention. The OP is choosing between two very average schools (and I'm being generous). No one with good school options are envious of the OP...myself included.

NP. You can say "generous" all you want. Fact is, non FARM students at Haynes are doing great. Their scores match WOTP. You can call it average if you want, but we all know that means that there are too many minorities for you.

From a thread a few months ago:
White Student Proficient and Advanced
Ross 100.00%
Two Rivers 97.32%
Hearst 96.67%
Eaton 96.47%
Oyster 95.98%
Mann 95.63%
Inspired 95.45%
Maury 95.45%
Stokes 95.45%
Capital City 95.45%
Lafayette 95.06%
Stoddert 93.23%
Janney 93.04%
Key 91.76%
Murch 91.56%
Yu Ying 90.54%
Haynes 90.00%
Logan 84.38%
Brent 83.62%

This board loves to tout the scores for white children as if it's the end all be all for a school. News Flash, Just because white kids are doing well doesn't mean a school is meeting the needs for non-white (even non-farm) kids. OP, make sure you check the scores for Hispanic students too since you seek them as peers for your kids.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I would suggest going to Haynes unless you love Powell and will stay until 5th and then move. Sure, you could try to lottery for middle, but I would be prepared to move after fifth if you stay at Powell.

OP here: This is the core of our dilemma. We love Powell, but we are worried about what comes after. Will this be our only lottery "win" and we have to move, or will either McFarland really improve post-renovation or we get another decent lottery option for 6th?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I would suggest going to Haynes unless you love Powell and will stay until 5th and then move. Sure, you could try to lottery for middle, but I would be prepared to move after fifth if you stay at Powell.

OP here: This is the core of our dilemma. We love Powell, but we are worried about what comes after. Will this be our only lottery "win" and we have to move, or will either McFarland really improve post-renovation or we get another decent lottery option for 6th?

Pretty sure you can win the lottery for Haynes middle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I would suggest going to Haynes unless you love Powell and will stay until 5th and then move. Sure, you could try to lottery for middle, but I would be prepared to move after fifth if you stay at Powell.

OP here: This is the core of our dilemma. We love Powell, but we are worried about what comes after. Will this be our only lottery "win" and we have to move, or will either McFarland really improve post-renovation or we get another decent lottery option for 6th?

Don't leave a school you 'love' and is working for your kids out of fear for something 4-5 years off. Go to ELH if you are truly excited about what it has to offer your kids. If it's just "safer" or more predictable you will always wonder if you made the right decision.

Yes, there is a risk. But there are more options at the middle school level -- DCI, Oyster Adams (where they can continue with advanced language); McFarland and OOB potential at Brookland and Hardy. Also middle school is a growth year at ELH, Cap City and 5th/6th is the entry point for Basis, Latin and Washington Global.

[Anonymous]

If you "love" a school so much, why play lottery now? Yes, ELH has a MS, but when MaFarland opens, they both maybe comparable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I would suggest going to Haynes unless you love Powell and will stay until 5th and then move. Sure, you could try to lottery for middle, but I would be prepared to move after fifth if you stay at Powell.

OP here: This is the core of our dilemma. We love Powell, but we are worried about what comes after. Will this be our only lottery "win" and we have to move, or will either McFarland really improve post-renovation or we get another decent lottery option for 6th?

Don't leave a school you 'love' and is working for your kids out of fear for something 4-5 years off. Go to ELH if you are truly excited about what it has to offer your kids. If it's just "safer" or more predictable you will always wonder if you made the right decision.

Yes, there is a risk. But there are more options at the middle school level -- DCI, Oyster Adams (where they can continue with advanced language); McFarland and OOB potential at Brookland and Hardy. Also middle school is a growth year at ELH, Cap City and 5th/6th is the entry point for Basis, Latin and Washington Global.

Please don't come to Oyster!!! Take your bigotry elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten way off topic. Everyone is so quick to jump to conclusions about OP's intent on diversity in the classroom. My reading was that she favored a high number of Hispanic/Latino families because that's what her family is, and the percentage at Powell is greater than at Haynes.

OP, the truth is that you're not going to get the answer you are looking for here. DCUM more or less turned on EL Haynes as soon as something newer came along. Creative Minds, Inspired Teaching, Mundo Verde, Powell, have all been praised while Cap City and EL Haynes have been shoved off to the side. Guess what, as soon as someone decides that West and Bruce Monroe are better than Powell, DCUM will turn on Powell, too.

I have a child in a low elementary grade at EL Haynes. I have been mostly happy. They have some planned changes for the coming school year - notably the aftercare program has been outsourced to Springboard, where it was previously run in-house - that I am not sure about. Dual language was not a priority for my family, but being secure at a school for as long as possible was. I feel confident that my child could stay at EL Haynes until he graduates from high school. I also suspect that more and more families whose children are in school at ELH now will continue through high school, or at least through middle school.

As an aside, in the spring ELH hosted a party/fundraiser for families and supporters where several of the seniors were present. One of the students received a Gates Millennium Scholarship. I spoke to him, and another student, and they talked about being at the ELH since elementary grades, and how much they loved the school. I was very impressed with all the students I met, as well as those who spoke about their experiences at the school. I think it's a special place. I think my son is probably going to be fine academically regardless of where he is, but I think that going to EL Haynes will make him a better person.

Eh NO. If she was only concerned with Hispanic % she would have only compared Hispanic and Powell and Haynes, instead she listed the % of black as con despite Haynes having a large Hispanic % TOO!