Dumbing down Flint Hill AAP?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your subject is really offensive.

I had heard that this change was coming and I think it's a really interesting approach and I'm interested to see how it pans out. I think it will help to lessen the "us vs. them" mentality that exists. Had it been an option when we were making the decision for our child (we chose to move to LAES), it would have made the decision much more difficult as I found the biggest negative of the LLIV to be the fact that the children remained in class with the same students for four straight years.

Agree; no child “needs” separate / accelerated class.

Plus this approach is more racially equitable.

Makes sense if no child needs competitive sports and Music. All children should be treated equally and be at equal level with equal outcome for equity purposes.

[Anonymous]

You forgot the /s, right?

Right?????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At the AAP orientation at Flint Hill, we were told that from this fall, there would be no separate AAP class for 3rd grade. Instead, all the AAP students who are found eligible for Level 4 services and who remain at Flint Hill, would be distributed across all the 4 3rd grade sections. AAP students would be brought together for Math and Language arts only.

They would use this model for 3rd grade this coming fall and in following years the same model would be used for 4th, 5th and 6th grades.

To me this looks like dumbing down of the AAP program. We were originally planning to stay at Flint Hill, but with this change, I am not sure if Flint Hill program would be even close to the AAP program at the center school.

This is the impression I got after hearing the presentation and I could be wrong in this assessment. Please share your thoughts on this.

Thank you

So they'll have to share classes with the poors?

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Do the center parents yapping about how much better and superior it is realize that once their kids go to middle school, they will be in the same classes as those dumber LIV kids?

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But 3rd to 6th grade matters a lot as a good foundation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But 3rd to 6th grade matters a lot as a good foundation.

Agree! Then they can sit around and do nothing in 7th and 8th while the other kids catch up!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But 3rd to 6th grade matters a lot as a good foundation.

Agree! Then they can sit around and do nothing in 7th and 8th while the other kids catch up!

So you are saying that the LIV are all playing catch up in middle school? You guys understand it’s the same curriculum?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do the center parents yapping about how much better and superior it is realize that once their kids go to middle school, they will be in the same classes as those dumber LIV kids?

Or how about this….that smart kids who didn’t even make it to level IV take honors in MS and then go on to take AP/IB in high school? I’m a AAP parent and agree that it’s important for some kids. But I’m not delusional in thinking that AAP kids are that advanced. Most are not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your subject is really offensive.

I had heard that this change was coming and I think it's a really interesting approach and I'm interested to see how it pans out. I think it will help to lessen the "us vs. them" mentality that exists. Had it been an option when we were making the decision for our child (we chose to move to LAES), it would have made the decision much more difficult as I found the biggest negative of the LLIV to be the fact that the children remained in class with the same students for four straight years.

Agree; no child “needs” separate / accelerated class.

Plus this approach is more racially equitable.

lol.

You can only say that because challenging curricula have been excised from FCPS across the board. The ones who need it are either suffering quietly or have the privilege of a family who can afford find them challenges outside of school.

If we're talking about FHES specifically, then it's more likely the latter.

[Anonymous]

Haven't read everything but several schools are doing this after years of middle schools complaining that LLIV kids were coming in to middle school and failing and behaving very poorly because they had been in a cohort of 20 children for the prior 4 years and just didn't know how to deal with other kids.

It's also a great way to deal with the inequity surrounding LLIV and AAP. Your kid really isn't that special and there is no dumbing down. OP you sound awful, awful, awful.

[Anonymous]

I really hope that parents like you send your kids to the Center. We don't want you and your kid at our school, frankly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

When I volunteered for class activities, I did notice a significant difference between kids in the same classroom - both in reading and writing. Some kids finish the task in about half the allotted time and then they just chit chat or get into trouble. So I can see why grouping these kids into a class would be helpful both to them and to the teacher.

Teacher can go at a faster pace and set up tasks that require the entire session for most of the kids, instead of teaching to the lowest common denominator.

This is what I am worried about with the Flint Hill program. To me, this is where AAP with classes made up of kids with similar abilities would be a big help.

What Flint Hill seems to be doing is pretty much dismantling FCPS AAP. Why go through the tests and all the evaluation?

The entitlement and privilege in your posts, OP, are truly disgusting. How can you live with yourself?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We currently have one child in the AAP class at FHES. I am very disappointed and shocked at the decision FHES has made. Having experienced the program as it stands, I have to agree that FHES is dismantling its AAP curricula. We have not had any issues of cliques and kids not wanting to be with each other in the APP class. In our experience having kids together that want to learn more and have the capacity to excel resulted in everyone nudging each other forward. Saying that all kids can learn social studies and science at an advanced level is absurd. We would never say that about kids in a traveling vs. non traveling soccer team. The school could have met their objective of more intermingling by letting the kids have specials, lunch, and recess together. If you want an environment of peers where your child will be encouraged to do their best in academics don't stay at FHES. If you think the social aspects of school are important and the transition to a new school will be too much for your 8 year old, then, stay at FHES. The emotional well-being of children is also important.

Also, I don't understand the need for gifted kids to be surrounded by peers to encourage them. Aren't they supposed to be self motivated?

Nope, giftedness is high intellectual ability, not self motivation.

LOL at someone thinking LLIV kids are gifted. Advanced/being good at taking tests does not mean your child is gifted, sweet cheeks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We currently have one child in the AAP class at FHES. I am very disappointed and shocked at the decision FHES has made. Having experienced the program as it stands, I have to agree that FHES is dismantling its AAP curricula. We have not had any issues of cliques and kids not wanting to be with each other in the APP class. In our experience having kids together that want to learn more and have the capacity to excel resulted in everyone nudging each other forward. Saying that all kids can learn social studies and science at an advanced level is absurd. We would never say that about kids in a traveling vs. non traveling soccer team. The school could have met their objective of more intermingling by letting the kids have specials, lunch, and recess together. If you want an environment of peers where your child will be encouraged to do their best in academics don't stay at FHES. If you think the social aspects of school are important and the transition to a new school will be too much for your 8 year old, then, stay at FHES. The emotional well-being of children is also important.

Also, I don't understand the need for gifted kids to be surrounded by peers to encourage them. Aren't they supposed to be self motivated?

Nope, giftedness is high intellectual ability, not self motivation.

I'll take your comment more seriously when you can give specifics to why general ed kids can't do the AAP science curriculum like I asked.

I'm not the OP, but your question clearly made me believe that you do not have a gifted child.

And neither do you. AAP is not for gifted children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Haven't read everything but several schools are doing this after years of middle schools complaining that LLIV kids were coming in to middle school and failing and behaving very poorly because they had been in a cohort of 20 children for the prior 4 years and just didn't know how to deal with other kids.

It's also a great way to deal with the inequity surrounding LLIV and AAP. Your kid really isn't that special and there is no dumbing down. OP you sound awful, awful, awful.

For one, this thread is about 7 years old. Only about the last page is recent. FHES doesn't even have the same principal as when this thread was started. For all we know, OP doesn't even read this forum anymore.

For two, you've exhibited a considerable amount of dogma in your 5-post late night blaze of glory.