Bethune lottery

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I understand all the arguments regarding MD tags and residency - caregivers, not switching etc. Plus I understand that this isn't a Bethune-only issue. BUT the article clearly states that Bethune had 18 cases last year and was the WORST offender in the city. This is cold, hard fact!


And really, you think THAT many people "move back and forth" between MD and DC? No, they don't. This is a PG County school where Mom and Dad moved out of DC to get their 4500 sq foot mansion and the neighborhood schools suck, so they're using Grandma and Grandpas address and they're committing fraud, and bilking DC residents of their tax dollars. -- and dropping their trash off and just being generally trashy while they do it.

It makes the entire aspect of allowing Bethune to opt out of the common lottery even more bewildering.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I understand all the arguments regarding MD tags and residency - caregivers, not switching etc. Plus I understand that this isn't a Bethune-only issue. BUT the article clearly states that Bethune had 18 cases last year and was the WORST offender in the city. This is cold, hard fact!


And really, you think THAT many people "move back and forth" between MD and DC? No, they don't. This is a PG County school where Mom and Dad moved out of DC to get their 4500 sq foot mansion and the neighborhood schools suck, so they're using Grandma and Grandpas address and they're committing fraud, and bilking DC residents of their tax dollars. -- and dropping their trash off and just being generally trashy while they do it.

It makes the entire aspect of allowing Bethune to opt out of the common lottery even more bewildering.


To clarify, I didn't mean to insinuate their children are trash, I mean their LITERAL trash - that they throw out of their cars.
Anonymous
Ughh: Asked to comment on the large number of cases at her school, principal Dr. Linda McKay told the Heartbeat that she was not aware of a problem. “It seems that you have more information than I do regarding MM Bethune’s residency fraud investigation. We have not received information from PCSB regarding any students.”

Shut it down!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I understand all the arguments regarding MD tags and residency - caregivers, not switching etc. Plus I understand that this isn't a Bethune-only issue. BUT the article clearly states that Bethune had 18 cases last year and was the WORST offender in the city. This is cold, hard fact!


True enough, but to be fair, that article is from the 2012-2013 school year and there was an audit later in 2013 in which there's no mention of Bethune but is otherwise interesting. http://dcauditor.org/sites/default/files/DCA242013.pdf
Anonymous
Only because the 2013-14 report hasn't been released yet! And the report you link to is not an audit of residency cheaters at all! It is a report of additional measures that schools can put to prevent residency fraud and is not intended to target any one specific school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I understand all the arguments regarding MD tags and residency - caregivers, not switching etc. Plus I understand that this isn't a Bethune-only issue. BUT the article clearly states that Bethune had 18 cases last year and was the WORST offender in the city. This is cold, hard fact!


True enough, but to be fair, that article is from the 2012-2013 school year and there was an audit later in 2013 in which there's no mention of Bethune but is otherwise interesting. http://dcauditor.org/sites/default/files/DCA242013.pdf


I can't see a single instance/catch in this doc whereby the grandparents "swearing to be the child's guardian" and showing their valid proof of residency, catches the kids that actually live in PG with their parents. I'm not sure how DC can account for that, because even if they require the child to sit at the desk with Grandpa and "lie" and say they DO live with him, PG fraudsters will coach their kids to do as much. They need some other sort of verification, but it's sort of amazing how readily and willingly people look the other way when this occurs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I understand all the arguments regarding MD tags and residency - caregivers, not switching etc. Plus I understand that this isn't a Bethune-only issue. BUT the article clearly states that Bethune had 18 cases last year and was the WORST offender in the city. This is cold, hard fact!


True enough, but to be fair, that article is from the 2012-2013 school year and there was an audit later in 2013 in which there's no mention of Bethune but is otherwise interesting. http://dcauditor.org/sites/default/files/DCA242013.pdf


I can't see a single instance/catch in this doc whereby the grandparents "swearing to be the child's guardian" and showing their valid proof of residency, catches the kids that actually live in PG with their parents. I'm not sure how DC can account for that, because even if they require the child to sit at the desk with Grandpa and "lie" and say they DO live with him, PG fraudsters will coach their kids to do as much. They need some other sort of verification, but it's sort of amazing how readily and willingly people look the other way when this occurs.


I posted the link before. Correct, the audit wasn't about catching individuals but is about the system being broken and the issue being larger than any one school. It's very difficult to investigate residency fraud (especially by an individual school, and even by OSSE or DCPCSB) and very easy to train kids to lie. It's maddening, but then parents usually get truly engaged in some other issue that affects their own kids in the classroom everyday and at the DCPS/DCPCSB/OSSE level money goes to a myriad of other priorities over residency fraud private investigators. If PG County schools would improve and offer universal PK, that would help too!
Anonymous
I moved to DC in 2013 from PG County and park my vehicle in my backyard.

I still have a car note, and I will not pay sales tax again just to convert my tags over.

Get over yourselves.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I moved to DC in 2013 from PG County and park my vehicle in my backyard.

I still have a car note, and I will not pay sales tax again just to convert my tags over.

Get over yourselves.


No one cares about you. It's the people sending their kids to DC schools while living in MD that people care about.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I moved to DC in 2013 from PG County and park my vehicle in my backyard.

I still have a car note, and I will not pay sales tax again just to convert my tags over.

Get over yourselves.


Well, you're breaking the law, so I have no problem if someone turns you in for possible residency fraud and you need to explain yourself.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I moved to DC in 2013 from PG County and park my vehicle in my backyard.

I still have a car note, and I will not pay sales tax again just to convert my tags over.

Get over yourselves.


Well, you're breaking the law, so I have no problem if someone turns you in for possible residency fraud and you need to explain yourself.


Ha, so true! It's not residency fraud I'm committing, you idiots, it's vehicle registration fraud!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I moved to DC in 2013 from PG County and park my vehicle in my backyard.

I still have a car note, and I will not pay sales tax again just to convert my tags over.

Get over yourselves.


Well, you're breaking the law, so I have no problem if someone turns you in for possible residency fraud and you need to explain yourself.


Ha, so true! It's not residency fraud I'm committing, you idiots, it's vehicle registration fraud!


Wow, glad to see someone post for me. But yeah, I'm not committing residency fraud dumbasses. My paystub address is to the home I own and reside in, which is in the District.
Anonymous
Well you're still an asshole.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I moved to DC in 2013 from PG County and park my vehicle in my backyard.

I still have a car note, and I will not pay sales tax again just to convert my tags over.

Get over yourselves.


Well, you're breaking the law, so I have no problem if someone turns you in for possible residency fraud and you need to explain yourself.


Ha, so true! It's not residency fraud I'm committing, you idiots, it's vehicle registration fraud!


Wow, glad to see someone post for me. But yeah, I'm not committing residency fraud dumbasses. My paystub address is to the home I own and reside in, which is in the District.


It's not residency fraud, but it is definitely still illegal. And if you drop your kid off with MD tags, and I report you for suspected residency fraud, you will have to explain yourself.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well you're still an asshole.


Do you kiss your children with that foul mouth?
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