| Not the PP but... If it's "insane" and "crazy" for myself, the PP and the other posters who actually *do* have a stake in the argument by virtue of actually having our own kids in the school system, then it's even more insane and crazy for someone like 21:45 to be vociferously jumping into the fray, given he/she said "I don't have kids in schools that use common core" - perhaps 21:45 also has a habit of wandering up to random strangers on the street to start arguing with them about whatever topic they happen to be discussing? "Oh, well you think it's a lovely sunset behind the Washington Monument? Well, for one, that's not really the sky! And for another, that tall stone obelisk at the end of the National Mall is NOT the Washington Monument!" |
Yeah, um, ok. That made a lot of sense. Did it ever occur to you that whether or not a person's children are in schools with common core standards, it still affects education. Education affects everyone. Common core is extremely controversial. People hate it just as much as they hate NCLB, if not more. |
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http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/finding_common_ground/2013/06/ncte_president_asks_to_slow_down_the_common_core.html
NCTE not charmed as an earlier poster says. |
You've already negated yourself by saying you don't have a stake in it. And no, Common Core isn't "extremely controversial" other than in the few small circles that have decided to politicize it. |
You don't oppose the Common Core. You just think that people who don't oppose the Common Core are "crazy" with their "insane defense and love of Common Core", and somebody must be paying them to do it, and everybody you know hates the Common Core. Also, there is no single "you" that you are talking to. The way that I know that my daughter is getting a better education because of the Common Core is because I know what she's doing in school now, and I know what my older child did in school before Maryland adopted the Common Core standards. |
Not PP, but my DD had a better education than my DS. Had nothing to do with CC. She was a better student (test scores) and had better work habits. |
I wish that people would stop telling me that they know more about my own experiences than I do. |
Well, if your anecdotal information is your only defense of Common Core, you can expect anecdotal responses. |
The PP's question was, "How can you know if your daughter is getting a better education because of common core? I want to know that and show me some proof while you're at it." I answered it. I doubt that it constitutes "proof", though. I honestly don't know what the PP would consider proof of how I know if my daughter is getting a better education because of the Common Core. |
I agree. She also twists things around. Teacher support is crashing and burning. They are hating Common Core now. |
I think that has mostly to do with the little prep time and not-so great materials they are getting rather than the standards themselves. |
You mean the standards that were written by people with little or no experience in a classroom? Imagine that? And, you blame it on the "not so great materials"? |
Just an indication of the lack of professionalism. They couldn't even bother to proof them......... |
Practically speaking, what's the difference? We're supposed to love the Common Core of 10-15 years from now, when the kinks are worked out? How? |
And the federal idea of using students' results from the NCLB-mandated tests for teacher performance evaluations -- which also is unrelated to the standards themselves. |