Me too. Well said. |
I am pretty uncomfortable with the notion of "gentlemanliness" anyway, but it seems particularly irrelevant here. The nursing mom doesn't need people to be all gracious and understanding; she just needs them to go about their business and treat this as no big deal, which it isn't unless you've got issues. |
PP you're agreeing with. My godson is 11. I have two brothers. I volunteer twice a week with preteen boys at a shelter in DC. I am married to a man who was once a preteen boy. Please stop assuming that your prejudice against preteen boys (that they are hormone-dominated robots who are unable to process the idea that a mother feeding an infant is not sexually taunting him in some way) is more valid than anyone else's, or that boys are somehow not able to be interested in babies generally speaking. You are not doing your sons any favors with these attitudes. |
I mentioned this thread to my husband and he started laughing out loud. "you can teach a 12 year old boy anything you want but all they are seeing are the boobs!"--he doesn't get why women constantly overestimate men and especially adolescent boys. He also added "lucky kids, I had to hide a playboy" |
PP here. I want to add that my husband is 100% respectful of women and a wonderful husband and father to our daughter. But he is a man and once a 12 year old boy so he knows whats going on this hormone addled brains. |
I'm the +1, not the OP of this gentleman idea, but I wasn't thinking of the full course in chivalry and decency. The lesson in this situation (one part of being a gentleman) would be what you suggest: averting the gaze and treating this as no big deal. That's a good beginner's start. Followed up by still retaining the basic level of courtesy and respect for an older family member. There are other lessons that can wait till later; we're just talking this one. |
Well, he can't speak for all hormone addled brains out there. Obviously. Even if a person's brain is addled by hormones, presumably he is capable of reining it in and behaving like a civilized person. If he isn't, then he would benefit from practicing that skill, which will be very useful to him throughout his life. Because faced with something that makes him uncomfortable, or hormone-addled, or whatever, it is *his* responsibility to deal with that. |
I'm the OP of the gentleman idea. Exactly what I was thinking. |
Breasts ARE sexual. It is ridiculous to say otherwise. Any decent woman would cover up in front of guests - EVEN in her own home. |
OP - you should feel weird, because you're a weirdo. And a lot of people on this thread are apparently weirdos too. You should stop going to your poor SIL's house because it sounds like she could use a break from you and your whackadoo kids. |
+10000 |
+1. They can both be interested sexually and be interested in the basic baby-feeding function. I mean, it's pretty likely her husband was/is interested in both of those functions ... |
What if some busty relative just show the kids her bare boobs all the time for the heck of it? Would that be OK too? |
I agree. It's not fair to the boys to put erotic images of a relative in their head. It's not respectful to their development. |
To this particular relatoive (the nursing SIL), b perhaps her idea of being a gentlemna is one of the boys holding the tit for the baby while she rests or wiping the milked tit for her after the baby is done. |