Teens shoveling snow

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Anonymous wrote:Nowadays, you can't go knocking door to door. It isn't safe. I don't blame the parents for advertising on a listserv.

plus 1. Agree.

Maybe--maybe--alone. But I don't see why two 16-year-old boys can't go door to door safely in their own subdivision. As I posted earlier, they were all driving out of my neighborhood yesterday on their way to have fun, and they sure didn't have Mom and Dad in the car with them.

BTW: How do you know what they were driving to do?

How do you know they weren't driving to clients outside the neighborhood? Or driving to buy salt/replace a shovel?

Don't be so hard on teens who are willing to give up a snow day to make money by doing so serious hard labor. Those people who paid for their services got really cheap labor that day.

Because their middle-aged parents were the ones digging the old people out. Because it was discussed in the neighborhood that we had maybe one or two teens who were willing to work during this storm. That's why. Even their own parents sheepishly agreed--their kids are damn lazy.

I'm not being hard on them for working; my point is that they were not, while every other able-bodied person was. Takes a village, etc.

Maybe some of these parents are thinking their lazy entitled kid is cute.
Heads up. It's not. In fact, it's damn pathetic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Now if you're going to raise your children to look out for the elderly like that as teens, GOOD ON YOU! That's great. But most teenagers don't. They leave that stuff to the adults. (Remember the stories of the creepy old men in the neighborhood? You can never be too careful with your children. Most parents don't allow them to get too close to other adults.)

Was just going to say this.

And yet you drop your young teens at the mall to see a movie, where a dirty old man can sit down right to them, and let his hands "wander"? Don't worry. Most kids would be too mortified to make a peep. (And if they told you, then you'd never let them go back.)

Please say you don't do that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nowadays, you can't go knocking door to door. It isn't safe. I don't blame the parents for advertising on a listserv.

plus 1. Agree.

Maybe--maybe--alone. But I don't see why two 16-year-old boys can't go door to door safely in their own subdivision. As I posted earlier, they were all driving out of my neighborhood yesterday on their way to have fun, and they sure didn't have Mom and Dad in the car with them.

I don't know how old your children are, but you will soon realize today's teens are OVERWHELMED. I have a feeling more than a few teachers assigned extra work for kids during this snowcation. Between schoolwork, extra curriculars, projects, jobs and whatever else they have going on, I'm impressed they'd even get out and shovel for money.

Seeing how busy--and impressively willing to work--their children are, some parents will try to help them out a bit.

I see nothing wrong with that.

You're the most articulate 17-year-old I've met in awhile.

Or, you're a parent who is complete apologist for his/her children.

Apologist?

What are we talking about here? Parents who advertise their children's shoveling services?

What's wrong with helping out their children in that way? It's the kids who are going to go out and do the heavy lifting.

I have an idea: Why don't we all worry about how we raise OUR OWN CHILDREN? How's that?

If the parent wants to help their child build/organize their clientele, fine. If a parent makes their child go door to door, fine. If the parent allows their child to sleep in all day, wake up at 2 pm to drink cocoa and watch movies, fine.

WORRY ABOUT YOUR OWN CHILDREN.

Because it's always the ones criticizing other parents and their kids who end up having sheer hooligans on their hands.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nowadays, you can't go knocking door to door. It isn't safe. I don't blame the parents for advertising on a listserv.

plus 1. Agree.

Maybe--maybe--alone. But I don't see why two 16-year-old boys can't go door to door safely in their own subdivision. As I posted earlier, they were all driving out of my neighborhood yesterday on their way to have fun, and they sure didn't have Mom and Dad in the car with them.

BTW: How do you know what they were driving to do?

How do you know they weren't driving to clients outside the neighborhood? Or driving to buy salt/replace a shovel?

Don't be so hard on teens who are willing to give up a snow day to make money by doing so serious hard labor. Those people who paid for their services got really cheap labor that day.

Because their middle-aged parents were the ones digging the old people out. Because it was discussed in the neighborhood that we had maybe one or two teens who were willing to work during this storm. That's why. Even their own parents sheepishly agreed--their kids are damn lazy.

I'm not being hard on them for working; my point is that they were not, while every other able-bodied person was. Takes a village, etc.

Maybe some of these parents are thinking their lazy entitled kid is cute.
Heads up. It's not. In fact, it's damn pathetic.

What's damn pathetic are adults who sit online critiquing others' parenting skills and their children.

Teenagers have always been lazy. Big deal.

Worry about raising your own damn kid and don't worry about what the neighbor's children are doing.

We're not talking about kids committing crime against the neighborhood, kids who are being promiscuous, cutting themselves, or flunking out of school.

If the worst thing these kids are doing is being "lazy" during snow, so the hell what? What has that to do with YOUR life and YOUR home? That's where YOUR focus needs to be.

Judgmental asses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nowadays, you can't go knocking door to door. It isn't safe. I don't blame the parents for advertising on a listserv.

plus 1. Agree.

Maybe--maybe--alone. But I don't see why two 16-year-old boys can't go door to door safely in their own subdivision. As I posted earlier, they were all driving out of my neighborhood yesterday on their way to have fun, and they sure didn't have Mom and Dad in the car with them.

BTW: How do you know what they were driving to do?

How do you know they weren't driving to clients outside the neighborhood? Or driving to buy salt/replace a shovel?

Don't be so hard on teens who are willing to give up a snow day to make money by doing so serious hard labor. Those people who paid for their services got really cheap labor that day.

Because their middle-aged parents were the ones digging the old people out. Because it was discussed in the neighborhood that we had maybe one or two teens who were willing to work during this storm. That's why. Even their own parents sheepishly agreed--their kids are damn lazy.

I'm not being hard on them for working; my point is that they were not, while every other able-bodied person was. Takes a village, etc.

Maybe some of these parents are thinking their lazy entitled kid is cute.
Heads up. It's not. In fact, it's damn pathetic.

What's damn pathetic are adults who sit online critiquing others' parenting skills and their children.

Teenagers have always been lazy. Big deal.

Worry about raising your own damn kid and don't worry about what the neighbor's children are doing.

We're not talking about kids committing crime against the neighborhood, kids who are being promiscuous, cutting themselves, or flunking out of school.

If the worst thing these kids are doing is being "lazy" during snow, so the hell what? What has that to do with YOUR life and YOUR home? That's where YOUR focus needs to be.

Judgmental asses.

If you don't want opinions, why do you keep coming back here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nowadays, you can't go knocking door to door. It isn't safe. I don't blame the parents for advertising on a listserv.

plus 1. Agree.

Maybe--maybe--alone. But I don't see why two 16-year-old boys can't go door to door safely in their own subdivision. As I posted earlier, they were all driving out of my neighborhood yesterday on their way to have fun, and they sure didn't have Mom and Dad in the car with them.

BTW: How do you know what they were driving to do?

How do you know they weren't driving to clients outside the neighborhood? Or driving to buy salt/replace a shovel?

Don't be so hard on teens who are willing to give up a snow day to make money by doing so serious hard labor. Those people who paid for their services got really cheap labor that day.

Because their middle-aged parents were the ones digging the old people out. Because it was discussed in the neighborhood that we had maybe one or two teens who were willing to work during this storm. That's why. Even their own parents sheepishly agreed--their kids are damn lazy.

I'm not being hard on them for working; my point is that they were not, while every other able-bodied person was. Takes a village, etc.

Maybe some of these parents are thinking their lazy entitled kid is cute.
Heads up. It's not. In fact, it's damn pathetic.

What's damn pathetic are adults who sit online critiquing others' parenting skills and their children.

Teenagers have always been lazy. Big deal.

Worry about raising your own damn kid and don't worry about what the neighbor's children are doing.

We're not talking about kids committing crime against the neighborhood, kids who are being promiscuous, cutting themselves, or flunking out of school.

If the worst thing these kids are doing is being "lazy" during snow, so the hell what? What has that to do with YOUR life and YOUR home? That's where YOUR focus needs to be.

Judgmental asses.

If you don't want opinions, why do you keep coming back here?

YES. + 1000. I never understand this. That's great that you don't have any opinions that differ or could potentially upset anyone. Especially about the lazy, spoiled kids in my neighborhood. That's good for you. BUT DONT COME TO DCUM THINKING EVERONE IS SHARING YOUR OPINION. People are mean as hell on this board. Like, unusually mean. Its a little disappointing. But I love it. And so does everyone else that comes on here and says to keep your opinions to you self.

[Anonymous]

I am grateful that parents in our neighborhood posted contact info for their teens' shoveling services. It's an efficient way for them to get the word out. I negotiated with the teens directly - they were professional and anything but lazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am grateful that parents in our neighborhood posted contact info for their teens' shoveling services. It's an efficient way for them to get the word out. I negotiated with the teens directly - they were professional and anything but lazy.

Sounds like a great neighborhood of caring people. Kudos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nowadays, you can't go knocking door to door. It isn't safe. I don't blame the parents for advertising on a listserv.

plus 1. Agree.

Maybe--maybe--alone. But I don't see why two 16-year-old boys can't go door to door safely in their own subdivision. As I posted earlier, they were all driving out of my neighborhood yesterday on their way to have fun, and they sure didn't have Mom and Dad in the car with them.

BTW: How do you know what they were driving to do?

How do you know they weren't driving to clients outside the neighborhood? Or driving to buy salt/replace a shovel?

Don't be so hard on teens who are willing to give up a snow day to make money by doing so serious hard labor. Those people who paid for their services got really cheap labor that day.

Because their middle-aged parents were the ones digging the old people out. Because it was discussed in the neighborhood that we had maybe one or two teens who were willing to work during this storm. That's why. Even their own parents sheepishly agreed--their kids are damn lazy.

I'm not being hard on them for working; my point is that they were not, while every other able-bodied person was. Takes a village, etc.

Maybe some of these parents are thinking their lazy entitled kid is cute.
Heads up. It's not. In fact, it's damn pathetic.

What's damn pathetic are adults who sit online critiquing others' parenting skills and their children.

Teenagers have always been lazy. Big deal.

Worry about raising your own damn kid and don't worry about what the neighbor's children are doing.

We're not talking about kids committing crime against the neighborhood, kids who are being promiscuous, cutting themselves, or flunking out of school.

If the worst thing these kids are doing is being "lazy" during snow, so the hell what? What has that to do with YOUR life and YOUR home? That's where YOUR focus needs to be.

Judgmental asses.

If you don't want opinions, why do you keep coming back here?

To give MY opinions. DUH!

Like you, I could care what anybody else thinks. Just want to spew my own brand of wisdom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nowadays, you can't go knocking door to door. It isn't safe. I don't blame the parents for advertising on a listserv.

plus 1. Agree.

Maybe--maybe--alone. But I don't see why two 16-year-old boys can't go door to door safely in their own subdivision. As I posted earlier, they were all driving out of my neighborhood yesterday on their way to have fun, and they sure didn't have Mom and Dad in the car with them.

BTW: How do you know what they were driving to do?

How do you know they weren't driving to clients outside the neighborhood? Or driving to buy salt/replace a shovel?

Don't be so hard on teens who are willing to give up a snow day to make money by doing so serious hard labor. Those people who paid for their services got really cheap labor that day.

Because their middle-aged parents were the ones digging the old people out. Because it was discussed in the neighborhood that we had maybe one or two teens who were willing to work during this storm. That's why. Even their own parents sheepishly agreed--their kids are damn lazy.

I'm not being hard on them for working; my point is that they were not, while every other able-bodied person was. Takes a village, etc.

Maybe some of these parents are thinking their lazy entitled kid is cute.
Heads up. It's not. In fact, it's damn pathetic.

What's damn pathetic are adults who sit online critiquing others' parenting skills and their children.

Teenagers have always been lazy. Big deal.

Worry about raising your own damn kid and don't worry about what the neighbor's children are doing.

We're not talking about kids committing crime against the neighborhood, kids who are being promiscuous, cutting themselves, or flunking out of school.

If the worst thing these kids are doing is being "lazy" during snow, so the hell what? What has that to do with YOUR life and YOUR home? That's where YOUR focus needs to be.

Judgmental asses.

If you don't want opinions, why do you keep coming back here?

YES. + 1000. I never understand this. That's great that you don't have any opinions that differ or could potentially upset anyone. Especially about the lazy, spoiled kids in my neighborhood. That's good for you. BUT DONT COME TO DCUM THINKING EVERONE IS SHARING YOUR OPINION. People are mean as hell on this board. Like, unusually mean. Its a little disappointing. But I love it. And so does everyone else that comes on here and says to keep your opinions to you self.

Where did I say I expect anyone to share my opinion? Project much?

I'm not saying keep your opinions to yourself; that's the whole purpose of the board.

MY opinion is WORRY ABOUT YOUR OWN KIDS instead of throwing rocks at others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I paid a teenage kid in our hood $60 to do our driveway. I sat inside and cuddled with my DH and watched a movie and drank coffee. We work a TON and it was a great 2 hours of time. And the kid was psyched to get 60 bucks for 2 hours of work.

Everyone wins. everyone is happy. yay.

(and yes, his mom sent out the email to coordinate his jobs. And I dont give a damn. and in 2 years when my son would be old enough to shovel and make some extra cash, no way in hell is he going around knocking on random strangers doors. Thats just not safe today. No way in HELL.)

Why didn't you make your kid shovel the snow? You paid someone $60 and let your kid off the hook? My kids shovel the snow. Ages 4, 8, and 10. Then they built forts and caves.

Not the person you asked, but I didn't make my kids shovel the snow because they are 6 and 8. They can't do as good a job of shoveling (or finishing the job) as two boys twice their age.

Because her son is 2yrs away from earning money for a job. He is not little. Moms coddle coddle coddle and then complain when their kids are whiny.

[Anonymous]

Actually, I received an email stating that so and so child was doing community service for a religious reason. Said child was collecting clothing, I think and we could drop it off at such and such address in the bin out front. I thought it was a terrible lesson for the kid.

Needless to say I wont be dropping off clothes for his community service.

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Anonymous wrote:LOVE IT. I paid the neighbor boys $40 to shovel my driveway and sidewalk today. No way in heck was I going to do it at 7.5 months pregnant, and DH was on calls and fighting fires on his laptop all day. Just finished up a few minutes ago; I'm so glad he doesn't have to go out and do it now.

Lame that your DH couldn't do it.

He could have...but then he would have been working for a couple hours longer to make up the time lost to shoveling. Much happier that he is now able to relax.

My DH would be embarrassed to have teens shovel.

Not sure about your DH's line of work, but if OP's DH's time is better spent on work (and surely making well more than $20/hr when all is said and done if you have clients) then why not put DH's time to better use and also let the neighborhood kids earn some money. Highest and best use. Just like real estate.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd shovel for free for a poor elderly person or such, but not a rich lazy ass.

Heh heh. I told my kids that I would pay them to shovel for an elderly woman on the block, but they could knock on the door and hire themselves out to folks with more flush wallets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actually, I received an email stating that so and so child was doing community service for a religious reason. Said child was collecting clothing, I think and we could drop it off at such and such address in the bin out front. I thought it was a terrible lesson for the kid.

Needless to say I wont be dropping off clothes for his community service.

Oh wow. I kind of get it, but still.