9:57, we are on the same page. I find Romney's comments abhorrent. Some people are trying to parse that retirees and military folks are separate from the "entitled victims." As a PP said in this thread or a related one, I believe taxes are what we pay to live in a civilized society. I am willing to pay more taxes if it shelters a single mom down on her luck, provides health care to a 30 year old autistic man unable to hold a job with benefits, and puts food on the table for a family of five with a HHI of $25,000. |
10:05 - I 100% agree with you.
And I don't care the circumstances that got people with kids to that point - I refuse to live in a society that refuses help to innocent children just because of the sins of their parents. Those kids didn't have a choice in the matter - they deserve to not go hungry or go without medical care. End of story. And I'm the poster who has said in the past that I would allow my niece and nephew to live with us, but would let their parents fend for themselves... |
Awesome response Captain Hindsight! Are you the same person who always has this response? How helpful, smart or insightful are you? And what is the point of your question? To make someone feel bad? It's so easy to sit in judgement. I think she is awesome. It's not just a cliche we all do make mistakes, she admitted hers and fixed them, I say good for her. |
Curious, how are your neice and nephew related to you? Through your sibling or your spouces? Chances are you will grow old and become incapacitated and will have to live off your neice and nephew |
Are the retirees not entitled to anything? After paying taxes for 40 years, what he government gives is hardly charity. Take a look at how other wealthy countries provide for the elderly. Learn from their example. |
They are related to me through my husband - my BIL's kids with a young chick who has since walked out on them. I said I would help them (the niece and nephew), as long as it is direct help to them. You really don't want me to go into the whole story, but I am not sending my BIL money or housing him - end of story. If our little family were to pass together, our estate goes into a trust for our niece and nephew - it is VERY specific in our will. I can only hope they do better in life than their idiot parents - they live with my IL's, who are really nice people but enabled the entire train wreck. They all live thousands of miles away, so it is highly unlikely we will ever be a huge part of each other's lives. We see them whenever we visit (once a year?), do a skype call occasionally and send cards and money or gift cards for holidays. That is really the extent of our relationship. I would never deny a child food or medical care. That is cruel - those kids don't have a choice in who their parents are. Hence why I agreed with the above poster, and am a proponent of programs for low-income, disabled, etc, etc. I'd have a lot more compassion for BIL if he'd actually fallen on hard times...and not just made consistently BAD choices. BAD to the nth degree. You can think I am a heartless bitch if you want - you don't know our family or all the circumstances. I would happily take in my niece and nephew for a while if needed. Just not BIL. |
pp, you sound judgemental
I hope the neice and nephew never get to know you |
I am in the 49th percentile. I pay about $800 in federal income taxes annually.
I work 45-50 hrs every week. I don't get any sort of assistance for myself or my child. A few hundred more in federal taxes every year wouldn't make a huge difference in my monthly budget. |
NP here. The pp you address sounds very reasonable to me. You are the one who sounds judgmental. |