How intellectually mature is the average HS senior/lifer at Sidwell,Maret,GDS,Cathedral Schools ?

[Anonymous]

ASD: atrial septal defect or perhaps the American Society for the Deaf.

[Anonymous]

ASD = autism spectrum disorder

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is hysterical. OP asks a relatively educated & interesting question ("To what extent do the local elite private schools encourage their students to think for themselves & act independently?") and out come the most bizarre collection of responses. Like what, 2 people, have engaged in a substantive conversation on what should be an interesting topic to all of us?

So far, you all have accused OP of being a bad writer, a bad mother, not knowing her own child, caring more about a brand than a kid, pushing her kid harder than she should, being a jerk to people on DCUM, and hating the autistic. Because she asked whether you though your DC's schools encouraged them to think independently! OP, carry on. At least a few of us think you're the normal one.

I encourage you to look at schools outside Washington. The boarding schools are at a Secondary Schools Conference at Norwood next week. Might be worth investigating.

Wrong. Her first question was: "Here is my question: if you have a lifer at Sidwell, Maret,GDS or Cathedral Schools, how prepared do you think your HS senior is to be the steward of their future in terms of future intellectual pursuits and professional career path?" Then, she insults two kids: A 19-year-old senior who she feels should be fully mature despite the parents' decision to hold the child back throughout the years, and a 9-year-old who may, or may not, be on the spectrum. She can't escape the "DC problem," as she is the definition. As I have a hard time believing that this stereotype exists in this pure of a manifestation, I now believe that she is a troll. I have never before called someone a troll online, but she takes the cake.

[Anonymous]

How do you know that the OP is also the person who told the story about the 9 year old?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is hysterical. OP asks a relatively educated & interesting question ("To what extent do the local elite private schools encourage their students to think for themselves & act independently?") and out come the most bizarre collection of responses. Like what, 2 people, have engaged in a substantive conversation on what should be an interesting topic to all of us?

So far, you all have accused OP of being a bad writer, a bad mother, not knowing her own child, caring more about a brand than a kid, pushing her kid harder than she should, being a jerk to people on DCUM, and hating the autistic. Because she asked whether you though your DC's schools encouraged them to think independently! OP, carry on. At least a few of us think you're the normal one.

I encourage you to look at schools outside Washington. The boarding schools are at a Secondary Schools Conference at Norwood next week. Might be worth investigating.

Ok, Cybil. Why not run over to another thread and complain that you cannot be taken seriously here? Oh, you already did that. How did that work out for you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I had a similar reaction. PP used awfully strong language without knowing anything about that child's situation. Perhaps he was coming down with something. Perhaps he was injured. Perhaps he has an ASD. Perhaps he was just having a bad day and is usually quite self-sufficient. This is a 9 year-old, after all. When you things like "OMG What the FUCK is wrong with a kid like that," it makes me sad.

Poster, please tell us what an ASD has to do with a 9-year-old yelling at a mother. Your remark would be noteworthy indeed. What is the association of an ASD with temper tantrums? I have never heard of that association and I have diagnosed and closed ASDs for the last 20 years!

He was yelling for his mother to get him out of there. I wouldn't even call that a temper tantrum. But, honestly, I am really, really shocked that you have been diagnosing ASDs for the last 20 years (not sure what "closing" them means) and you are unaware of the propensity for kids with ASDs to have tantrums. I have a DC with an ASD and I live in that world, and . . . wow. You've never heard of an association between ASDs and temper tantrums? You've never heard of a child with an ASD yelling at his mother/anyone? Screaming to be taken out of a certain situation? Wow, just wow.

[Anonymous]

I just don't get how any of us is supposed to answer this question -- or why OP thinks we should be able to answer. The best we could expect to do is a handful of mean anecdotes about immature kids at super-competitive schools. Is OP expecting "all Sidwell kids are immature because they want to get into Harvard but all GDS kids are mature because none of them, and I mean none of them, cares about getting to Harvard?" Or the converse, which is equally silly.

And toss in an occasional "ooh, wow" for a kid who turns down Harvard for a state school as an example of maturity - even though we don't have all the facts about this awesome kid's choice, like the state school was cheaper.

How does OP think that anything said here will be meaningful?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I had a similar reaction. PP used awfully strong language without knowing anything about that child's situation. Perhaps he was coming down with something. Perhaps he was injured. Perhaps he has an ASD. Perhaps he was just having a bad day and is usually quite self-sufficient. This is a 9 year-old, after all. When you things like "OMG What the FUCK is wrong with a kid like that," it makes me sad.

Poster, please tell us what an ASD has to do with a 9-year-old yelling at a mother. Your remark would be noteworthy indeed. What is the association of an ASD with temper tantrums? I have never heard of that association and I have diagnosed and closed ASDs for the last 20 years!

He was yelling for his mother to get him out of there. I wouldn't even call that a temper tantrum. But, honestly, I am really, really shocked that you have been diagnosing ASDs for the last 20 years (not sure what "closing" them means) and you are unaware of the propensity for kids with ASDs to have tantrums. I have a DC with an ASD and I live in that world, and . . . wow. You've never heard of an association between ASDs and temper tantrums? You've never heard of a child with an ASD yelling at his mother/anyone? Screaming to be taken out of a certain situation? Wow, just wow.

I think the PP has been diagnosing and closing atrial septal defects for 20 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just don't get how any of us is supposed to answer this question -- or why OP thinks we should be able to answer. The best we could expect to do is a handful of mean anecdotes about immature kids at super-competitive schools. Is OP expecting "all Sidwell kids are immature because they want to get into Harvard but all GDS kids are mature because none of them, and I mean none of them, cares about getting to Harvard?" Or the converse, which is equally silly.

And toss in an occasional "ooh, wow" for a kid who turns down Harvard for a state school as an example of maturity - even though we don't have all the facts about this awesome kid's choice, like the state school was cheaper.

How does OP think that anything said here will be meaningful?

True about ooh so many DCUM discussions -- which is why it seemed odd that people were so quickly up in arms about this question.

[Anonymous]

There is no known and reported association between ASDs (e.g., atrial septal defects) and temper tantrums. Wow, wow. Is Cybil autistic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I had a similar reaction. PP used awfully strong language without knowing anything about that child's situation. Perhaps he was coming down with something. Perhaps he was injured. Perhaps he has an ASD. Perhaps he was just having a bad day and is usually quite self-sufficient. This is a 9 year-old, after all. When you things like "OMG What the FUCK is wrong with a kid like that," it makes me sad.

Poster, please tell us what an ASD has to do with a 9-year-old yelling at a mother. Your remark would be noteworthy indeed. What is the association of an ASD with temper tantrums? I have never heard of that association and I have diagnosed and closed ASDs for the last 20 years!

He was yelling for his mother to get him out of there. I wouldn't even call that a temper tantrum. But, honestly, I am really, really shocked that you have been diagnosing ASDs for the last 20 years (not sure what "closing" them means) and you are unaware of the propensity for kids with ASDs to have tantrums. I have a DC with an ASD and I live in that world, and . . . wow. You've never heard of an association between ASDs and temper tantrums? You've never heard of a child with an ASD yelling at his mother/anyone? Screaming to be taken out of a certain situation? Wow, just wow.

I think the PP has been diagnosing and closing atrial septal defects for 20 years.

With such a fervor that he hasn't even heard of the autism epidemic, despite the sharing of the acronym. I think that it was both a lie and an acknowledgment of ignorance and self-centeredness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok, Cybil. Why not run over to another thread and complain that you cannot be taken seriously here? Oh, you already did that. How did that work out for you?

It's Sybil, damn it.

[Anonymous]

I think the PP has been diagnosing and closing atrial septal defects for 20 years.

She's be tossed out of the Society of Congenital Heart Surgeons for incompetence and paranoid and delusional schizophrenia.

[Anonymous]

It's Sybil, damn it.

...let's not forget multiple personalities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I think the PP has been diagnosing and closing atrial septal defects for 20 years.

She's be tossed out of the Society of Congenital Heart Surgeons for incompetence and paranoid and delusional schizophrenia.

But was she intellectually mature when she graduated from a big 3 school?