Middle Schools - Ward 6 Centric
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Anonymous
| I agree with several of the posters on this board. I don't think it would be enough for an AP from Deal to be the principal of Eliot-Hine (Deal East). We should ask Dr. Kim to come over with a part of her team to seed it. This is how good charters replicate themselves. She has the public confidence to build another middle school and also has institutional knowledge in DCPS to succeed. Interestingly, she has ties in the Capitol Hill community because she spent some time at the Cluster school years back. Someone from the Ward 6 collaborative or from DCPS central or both should make the ask to see if she'll take it on. It makes sense that the school district will use their best resources to replicate a middle school. Deal is in good shape and we need a proven leadership to build other schools. |
Anonymous
| Let me be honest. I have watched closely how Melissa Kim operates and if she by some miracle became Principal of Eliot Hine with all the ward 6 elementaries feeding in there and an IB MYP program I would enroll my kids on the spot. Done. Sold. |
Anonymous
And why exactly would parents from other wards do that? There is no guarantee of quality, there is no guarantee their children would even be accepted via OOB lottery. Why would any OOB parent in their right mind leave a school like Cap City or Haynes or any other promising charter to support the swamp of DCPS? Encouraging people to experiment on untried and untested schools only works when the people have no options. Or, if they're not your children. Then, maybe you're a little too out of touch to understand why they give more of a shit than you do. |
Anonymous
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That's why the wording of "neighborhood" schools is so misleading. You see a bunch of children in a neighborhood and immediately assume they are destined for the neighborhood school, NOT. It just took last year alone to have enough white students at the 8th grade level to be recognized as a blip on the data screen. C'mon being 1% of a student school populaton of 45,000 is not bursting at the seams.
Get over yourself, the principal at Eliot-Hine is from CHEC she was an assistnant principal under the helm of Principal Tukeva. In which, that principal just won the coveted award of best principal and not Dr. Kim. Principal Young at Eliot-Hine is quite proficient and qualified to take Eliot-Hine to the next phase. |
Anonymous
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The idea that Tukeva is a superior principal to Kim is utterly laughable. CHEC repeatedly fails in regard to standardized test scores and has a teacher turnover in excess of 50%. How many readers of this board send their child to CHEC? I'm guessing the number is between zero and none.
Your logic is tortured at best and there is no way Ward 6 parents are going to sign up for Elliot-Hine unless there is an excellent, experienced principal (like Kim) at the helm. Even having Kim at the helm will still make this effort a real stretch... |
Anonymous
Success at Eliot Hine requires parents beyond Ward Six for several reasons. During the ward redistricting back-and-forth it became apparent Wards Eight, Seven and Five wanted it to be known that Ward Six does not own Eliot Hine or Eastern. They are right – no Ward owns any school – a school’s Ward affiliation does not grant that Ward exclusive domain over any given school. Thus, Ward Six AND every ward represented at EH must engage for the school to move the then next level. As an earlier poster pointed out, Eliot Hine’s enrollment in ’10-’11 included 190 out of bounds kids out of 284 enrolled – the school is 67% out of bounds. In order for EH to go to the next level it must have the support of OOB families. As it stands right now, both Eliot Hine and Stuart Hobson are mostly out of bounds schools. Parents in Wards Seven and Eight especially are voting with their feet and choosing these schools, and I wholeheartedly support their right to make that decision. The contributions of OOB families at our elementary are amazing, and the more people contributing, the better. If EH will ascend to the next phase, it must marshal the talents of everyone who has something to offer. Additionally, Eastern HS includes significant portions of Ward Seven in its feeder pattern. Thus Ward Six is also bound to Ward Seven by the additional tie of feeding into the same high school. A rising tide lifts all boats. I am not encouraging people to leave charters or any other situation where they feel comfortable. I am saying that if a middle school experience is going to be successful – be it DCPS, charter, private or home school, in my humble opinion it must have families who feel a strong connection to it. I have several children in a DCPS elementary school and we see few options – like many other parents citywide, I am freaked out by our family’s middle school prospects. I have been active with our elementary school for six years and with middle school efforts for three years. And while I live in Ward Six, most of the parents focused on the middle school issue (and also freaking out) at our school are not from Ward Six. We have formed friendships over the years, and the stress of sorting out middle schools has strengthened the bond. We are all in this together. |
Anonymous
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Deal is like McDonald's it is not the best but more likely the most popular. It just amazes me that people feel just because there are more students at Deal, that it is the best middle-school in the WORLD!!!!
If data is what you rely on 10:31 then being selected by the Chancellor to be the best principal what have been the result of being popular, wouldn't it? Are you alluding that Tukeva and Kim are not of the same ilk? Couldn't one have the advantage over the other just because of experience and results. The sword can probably cut both ways in data results, if one can uncover that all wasn't excellent at Noyes, then couldn't one assume that all isn't doom and gloom at CHEC? 11:04, you're right competition brings customers. |
Anonymous
| 11:26, you are confusing. |
Anonymous
| If you read it and imagine the writer slurring his/her words it becomes crystal clear that the writer was drunk. |
Anonymous
| You would have to be drunk to boast of Tukeva's "results." Test scores at her school are so awful any other principal would be fired. Tukeva is apparently made of Teflon. |
Anonymous
| what is "CHEC"? |
Anonymous
a middle/high school on 16th St in Adams Morgan. Columbia Heights EC, forget what the EC stands for |
Anonymous
| education campus |
Anonymous
| Not to discount leadership, but I think it's naive to claim that a principal is the only crucial variable, neither for better nor for worse. Rather, the principal is something of a self-fulfilling prophesy. One who is capable, liked, and reputed will attract those who do their homework about choosing schools; and, voila, you've got a better school. Also, even if the principal were the crucial piece in the puzzle, their quality is intimately tied to their ties with teachers, admin, and community. (Public) schools are not corporations, where you fly in a capable team to execute a mission, a merger, a turn-around and such. That's not all of course, but enough to quell a seeming desire here to rank (or denigrate) principals. I know it's tempting to sling a little mud to keep this thread going; but I think part of what makes Ward 6 schools strong - and different! - is that's not what we're about. We work together to make things happen, sometimes with a little help, sometimes against the odds, but always with a lot of drive and commitment! |
Anonymous
| GREAT post 14:22. You rock. |