Young person chose assisted death

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Anonymous wrote:Someone we know my an announcement on social media that in her 30s she was choosing to end her life and waa approved to end her life in another country. Her message posted on social media was confusing and unsettling to pretty much everyone that knew her that we know.

She said she had an incurable disease that wasn't that bad but was choosing to end her life before it got bad because her life wouldn't be the way she imagined it and that we'd never hear from her again.

I think that line sort of stuck with us. That life wasn't worth living if it was as someone less abled or exactly as imagined.

I'm very pro assisted death. I don't understand how we can put animals down and watched loved ones suffer, but this one just feels so...

IMO , this is by design.
People like you, OP, likely support assisted death as an option bc you picture great grandma suffering in her final days…and it seems humane.

But the people who pushed this into law are proponents of eugenics and population control. They know this will not only appeal to people who have terminal illlnesses, but they will push it onto younger and younger people (many with mental health disorders) who will accept that this is a solution for a less than ideal life.

There should be a rule no self harm while parents still alive. Otherwise I have no issue with “younger ppl with mental health disorders” choosing it.
At least their kids won’t inherit it. But don’t hurt the parents

Sometimes the reason someone is like this, is their parents.

I have a friend, that like the PP, has been hanging on by a thread for a few decades now. She has attempted to un-alive herself unsuccessfully multiple times. Her depression, PTSD, DID, etc. was caused by a father who sexually assaulted her when she was young, who then traded her around with others like himself, and even worse (from her perspective) her mother who walked in on her father raping her, but quietly backed away, closing the door behind her. Good Christians. Pillars of the community. Who would even believe her?

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Anonymous wrote:If there is no God, everything is permitted.

If there is a God, he certainly permits babies and children to be raped and killed.

What a stupid statement. Humans have free will.

1. Humans don’t have free will; it’s an illusion.
2. Even IF humans have free will, the God you believe in already knows what a pedophile would do with a child and could stop the pedophile or arrange another way to keep the child safe while preserving free will (e.g., keep pedo at red light so he never interacts with with the child).

Only in a mechanistic universe. Quantum mechanics would allow for free will, assuming QM is correct.

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt it was because she just didnt want to be "less abled." If she has a degenerative condition, she might want to go out now, rather than just wait for her QOL to degrade until she's miserable or incapacitated, or even unable to end her own life anymore.

It wasn't a degenerative condition. It wasn't certain that it would get worse. She said her condition wasn't bad.

That's what was very confusing.

Are you just trolling or trying to rage bait?

Your OP says she thinks it will get bad.
"She said she had an incurable disease...was choosing to end her life before it got bad"

Why are you lying to try and stir some random internet pot about MAID?

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt it was because she just didnt want to be "less abled." If she has a degenerative condition, she might want to go out now, rather than just wait for her QOL to degrade until she's miserable or incapacitated, or even unable to end her own life anymore.

It wasn't a degenerative condition. It wasn't certain that it would get worse. She said her condition wasn't bad.

That's what was very confusing.

Are you just trolling or trying to rage bait?

Your OP says she thinks it will get bad.
"She said she had an incurable disease...was choosing to end her life before it got bad"

Why are you lying to try and stir some random internet pot about MAID?

Nothing of what I said is contradictory...

She did not have a degenerative disease. There was no guarantee that it would get worse and she said it wasn't bad when she chose this.

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Anonymous wrote:If SHE isn't ok with her condition, it doesn't matter a single flying f*** what you or anyone else thinks. How dare you think you know better than her. "wasn't that bad". GFY op.

I mean, by this logic, are you fine with anyone committing su*cide anytime for any (or no) reason? Why involve a doctor at all? In my view, this attitude is very problematic.

Apparently this is the situation for this country. You don't need medical clearance to do it. You just need to be of sound mind.

This isn’t adding up. There isn’t any country in the developed world that offers any form of assisted death without rigorous medical checks. Name the country.

Canada is offering this today.
They are pretty developed.

Canada doesn't allow it for fibromyalgia, even if you are struggling.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/maid-poverty-disability-1.6687453

That’s not what the article says. It says she currently doesn’t qualify based on her fibromyalgia, but she might re-apply if it gets worse.

It's not Canada. It's the country with the least restrictive laws on it right now.

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Anonymous wrote:Information is not entirely clear. Incurable could mean terminal, and terminal can mean soon or a long time from now. There is a family that has been the subject of a lot of Alzheimer's research because it is a particular inherited type of early onset Alzheimer's that can be tested for but couldn't in the early generations (going back to the 1920s or so iirc). Before the cause was known, several generations had their families first torn apart because of a parent who became extremely mentally unstable and often turned to alcohol before dying at a relatively young age, only to gradually see siblings suffer the same fate. In one fmaily, one sibling out of seven was free the genetic inheritance.

If someone has an incurable disease that is also terminal on some time scale, if they wait too long they will be ineligible to use assisted suicide. They have to be physically able to administer medication themselves as well as be able to make the legal decision to go ahead at the time they do it.

It's not a terminal disease.

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Anonymous wrote:If SHE isn't ok with her condition, it doesn't matter a single flying f*** what you or anyone else thinks. How dare you think you know better than her. "wasn't that bad". GFY op.

DP. This is a disgusting take. One of my extended family members offed himself because of chronic pain and depression. He had four kids: two were already adults and two were still minors. By your logic, he had zero responsibility to his kids to try his damndest to get better.

This person had no children, or it seems, reason to live. Which also makes me sad.

No kids, no parents, she can do what she wants.

I mean, there are people that care for her. The entire office of people she worked with is really shaken by this. I presume more than work cared about her too.

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Anonymous wrote:She should take out some people who are a blight on this Earth. You know, since she is going to go anyways.

True. My kids remind me of this! No repercussions, so take out a deplorable!

Why are liberals so violent?

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Anonymous wrote:If SHE isn't ok with her condition, it doesn't matter a single flying f*** what you or anyone else thinks. How dare you think you know better than her. "wasn't that bad". GFY op.

DP. This is a disgusting take. One of my extended family members offed himself because of chronic pain and depression. He had four kids: two were already adults and two were still minors. By your logic, he had zero responsibility to his kids to try his damndest to get better.

This person had no children, or it seems, reason to live. Which also makes me sad.

No kids, no parents, she can do what she wants.

I mean, there are people that care for her. The entire office of people she worked with is really shaken by this. I presume more than work cared about her too.

How do you know they care. They are acquaintances, not family or friends. Jobs come and go, as do people.

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt it was because she just didnt want to be "less abled." If she has a degenerative condition, she might want to go out now, rather than just wait for her QOL to degrade until she's miserable or incapacitated, or even unable to end her own life anymore.

It wasn't a degenerative condition. It wasn't certain that it would get worse. She said her condition wasn't bad.

That's what was very confusing.

Are you just trolling or trying to rage bait?

Your OP says she thinks it will get bad.
"She said she had an incurable disease...was choosing to end her life before it got bad"

Why are you lying to try and stir some random internet pot about MAID?

Nothing of what I said is contradictory...

She did not have a degenerative disease. There was no guarantee that it would get worse and she said it wasn't bad when she chose this.

Why do you think you get to make the choice for someone else? Be thankful you have no health issues.

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I mean thr vast majority of countries that allow MAID require a doctor's sign off and a demonstration of suffering. The country with the loosest requirements is Switzerland but they have controls as well.

I don't know if this is trolling either by OP or the post they read or they're downplaying the person's condition but this isn't that loose or easy to get approved.