Young person chose assisted death

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also she is selfish as she isn’t thinking about her parents. No child has a right to go before their parents are gone unless it’s something truly morbid

How do you know that she HAS parents? —“Right” is an odd word to use here, especially without more information about what this woman is facing — and what her resources are.

I mean, most people still have at least one parent at 30. In fact many people have to care for them well into their 70s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also she is selfish as she isn’t thinking about her parents. No child has a right to go before their parents are gone unless it’s something truly morbid

How do you know that she HAS parents? —“Right” is an odd word to use here, especially without more information about what this woman is facing — and what her resources are.

I mean, most people still have at least one parent at 30. In fact many people have to care for them well into their 70s

Apparently both of her parents died. I imagine that factored into this decision and she may not have had family support to continue on anyway.

Without getting too specific it's a form of fibromyalgia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I doubt it was because she just didnt want to be "less abled." If she has a degenerative condition, she might want to go out now, rather than just wait for her QOL to degrade until she's miserable or incapacitated, or even unable to end her own life anymore.

You may be right but there are definitely cases where people with personality disorders pursue this in part to inflict pain on family members. I’m also in favor of cautious MAID but it’s absurd to pretend there aren’t rare but ghastly issues that accompany it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If SHE isn't ok with her condition, it doesn't matter a single flying f*** what you or anyone else thinks. How dare you think you know better than her. "wasn't that bad". GFY op.

I mean, by this logic, are you fine with anyone committing su*cide anytime for any (or no) reason? Why involve a doctor at all? In my view, this attitude is very problematic.

Not your life, not your decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I doubt it was because she just didnt want to be "less abled." If she has a degenerative condition, she might want to go out now, rather than just wait for her QOL to degrade until she's miserable or incapacitated, or even unable to end her own life anymore.

You may be right but there are definitely cases where people with personality disorders pursue this in part to inflict pain on family members. I’m also in favor of cautious MAID but it’s absurd to pretend there aren’t rare but ghastly issues that accompany it.

I think the part that is sad to me is if someone choos3d this path because we don't have great options to support the disabled in our country. So if you can't survive or have someone to care for you it may seem like this is the only option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also she is selfish as she isn’t thinking about her parents. No child has a right to go before their parents are gone unless it’s something truly morbid

How do you know that she HAS parents? —“Right” is an odd word to use here, especially without more information about what this woman is facing — and what her resources are.

I mean, most people still have at least one parent at 30. In fact many people have to care for them well into their 70s

Apparently both of her parents died. I imagine that factored into this decision and she may not have had family support to continue on anyway.

Without getting too specific it's a form of fibromyalgia.

I'm not convinced you're a reliable narrator here, but whatever it is sounds both painful and incurable. MAID would be entirely reasonable, not that it should need to be reasonable to anyone but her.

[Anonymous]

Wow, the amount of people on this thread who don't have a problem with MAID is quite disturbing. May God have mercy on your souls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If SHE isn't ok with her condition, it doesn't matter a single flying f*** what you or anyone else thinks. How dare you think you know better than her. "wasn't that bad". GFY op.

DP. This is a disgusting take. One of my extended family members offed himself because of chronic pain and depression. He had four kids: two were already adults and two were still minors. By your logic, he had zero responsibility to his kids to try his damndest to get better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If SHE isn't ok with her condition, it doesn't matter a single flying f*** what you or anyone else thinks. How dare you think you know better than her. "wasn't that bad". GFY op.

DP. This is a disgusting take. One of my extended family members offed himself because of chronic pain and depression. He had four kids: two were already adults and two were still minors. By your logic, he had zero responsibility to his kids to try his damndest to get better.

You know what? YOURS is a disgusting take. How do you know he didn’t try his damndest?! How do you know he didn’t stay as long as he possibly could? Have you ever felt pain and despair that was so crushing, so black, so relentless that even the love of your dependent children could not shine through it? Have you ever felt unrelenting pain that no pill could touch? If not, STFU.

My brother died by suicide and staying alive has basically been my full time job since then because I can’t hurt more people in my family. But we are still logically in the Dark Ages when it comes to mental health treatments. I would eat a ground up dried rat; hell, I might even eat a fresh one if it might out my depressions and brain fog into remission. I have tried basically every antidepressant plus alternative treatments like psychedelics and ketamine, Botox and walking and the Keto diet and morning light boxes and gratitude journals and 100+ self help books and 50 kinds of planners for new habits AND I STILL HAVE SUICIDAL THOUGHTS nearly daily. I have tried my damndest to get better. I’m far from better. Dying from a sometimes lethal disease doesn’t mean you didn’t fight to stay alive first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If SHE isn't ok with her condition, it doesn't matter a single flying f*** what you or anyone else thinks. How dare you think you know better than her. "wasn't that bad". GFY op.

DP. This is a disgusting take. One of my extended family members offed himself because of chronic pain and depression. He had four kids: two were already adults and two were still minors. By your logic, he had zero responsibility to his kids to try his damndest to get better.

This person had no children, or it seems, reason to live. Which also makes me sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If SHE isn't ok with her condition, it doesn't matter a single flying f*** what you or anyone else thinks. How dare you think you know better than her. "wasn't that bad". GFY op.

I mean, by this logic, are you fine with anyone committing su*cide anytime for any (or no) reason? Why involve a doctor at all? In my view, this attitude is very problematic.

Apparently this is the situation for this country. You don't need medical clearance to do it. You just need to be of sound mind.

This isn’t adding up. There isn’t any country in the developed world that offers any form of assisted death without rigorous medical checks. Name the country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If SHE isn't ok with her condition, it doesn't matter a single flying f*** what you or anyone else thinks. How dare you think you know better than her. "wasn't that bad". GFY op.

DP. This is a disgusting take. One of my extended family members offed himself because of chronic pain and depression. He had four kids: two were already adults and two were still minors. By your logic, he had zero responsibility to his kids to try his damndest to get better.

You know what? YOURS is a disgusting take. How do you know he didn’t try his damndest?! How do you know he didn’t stay as long as he possibly could? Have you ever felt pain and despair that was so crushing, so black, so relentless that even the love of your dependent children could not shine through it? Have you ever felt unrelenting pain that no pill could touch? If not, STFU.

My brother died by suicide and staying alive has basically been my full time job since then because I can’t hurt more people in my family. But we are still logically in the Dark Ages when it comes to mental health treatments. I would eat a ground up dried rat; hell, I might even eat a fresh one if it might out my depressions and brain fog into remission. I have tried basically every antidepressant plus alternative treatments like psychedelics and ketamine, Botox and walking and the Keto diet and morning light boxes and gratitude journals and 100+ self help books and 50 kinds of planners for new habits AND I STILL HAVE SUICIDAL THOUGHTS nearly daily. I have tried my damndest to get better. I’m far from better. Dying from a sometimes lethal disease doesn’t mean you didn’t fight to stay alive first.

Huge hugs! ECT? Cold showers? Volunteering? Puppies? PRP neck injections that help the vagus nerve? It sounds stupid, but Pilates? Cranial sacral massage? Dry needling? Keep trying new therapists over and over until one clicked??? I’m sending so much love!!! It sucks! Keep trying!! Go on medical leave or disability with No shame! I hope you can find some relief here and there!

[Anonymous]

Assisted suicide is her choice, but announcing it on social media seems thirsty to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone we know my an announcement on social media that in her 30s she was choosing to end her life and waa approved to end her life in another country. Her message posted on social media was confusing and unsettling to pretty much everyone that knew her that we know.

She said she had an incurable disease that wasn't that bad but was choosing to end her life before it got bad because her life wouldn't be the way she imagined it and that we'd never hear from her again.

I think that line sort of stuck with us. That life wasn't worth living if it was as someone less abled or exactly as imagined.

I'm very pro assisted death. I don't understand how we can put animals down and watched loved ones suffer, but this one just feels so...

IMO , this is by design.
People like you, OP, likely support assisted death as an option bc you picture great grandma suffering in her final days…and it seems humane.

But the people who pushed this into law are proponents of eugenics and population control. They know this will not only appeal to people who have terminal illlnesses, but they will push it onto younger and younger people (many with mental health disorders) who will accept that this is a solution for a less than ideal life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If SHE isn't ok with her condition, it doesn't matter a single flying f*** what you or anyone else thinks. How dare you think you know better than her. "wasn't that bad". GFY op.

I mean, by this logic, are you fine with anyone committing su*cide anytime for any (or no) reason? Why involve a doctor at all? In my view, this attitude is very problematic.

Apparently this is the situation for this country. You don't need medical clearance to do it. You just need to be of sound mind.

This isn’t adding up. There isn’t any country in the developed world that offers any form of assisted death without rigorous medical checks. Name the country.

Canada is offering this today.
They are pretty developed.