James Van der beek died! 48 yo :(

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Anonymous wrote:Please get your colonoscopies! 45 with no family history, younger if you you have a history.


James got his. Feels like you are blaming him.


I don’t believe he got them as he should have:

- he was unaware that the screening age had dropped from 50 to 45

- he had changes in his bowel habits and attributed it to caffeine intake rather than speaking to a physician


What?

Who cares if he knew the screening age if he still got one at what turned out to be the recommended screening age?

People have changes in bowel habits for myriad reasons. I hope you don’t suggest that one go running to the doctor or for a colonoscopy as the first step every time? In addition to being impractical on a personal level, it’s impractical on a system level.


Sorry to say but I had rectal blessing at 30. My GI sent me straight to a colonoscopy and he saved my life because of it. It was a polyp but he asked me to come back 5 years later and I did. On that colonoscopy they found a very tiny tumor in very early stages. I’m so glad I listened to my doctor and took him seriously. My second colonoscopy that found the tumor was when I had no symptoms.


Good for you, but your response is a non sequitur. Changes in bowel habits =/= rectal bleeding. JFC.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please get your colonoscopies! 45 with no family history, younger if you you have a history.


James got his. Feels like you are blaming him.


I don’t believe he got them as he should have:

- he was unaware that the screening age had dropped from 50 to 45

- he had changes in his bowel habits and attributed it to caffeine intake rather than speaking to a physician


What?

Who cares if he knew the screening age if he still got one at what turned out to be the recommended screening age?

People have changes in bowel habits for myriad reasons. I hope you don’t suggest that one go running to the doctor or for a colonoscopy as the first step every time? In addition to being impractical on a personal level, it’s impractical on a system level.


Yes, and one of those can be colon cancer. It's specifically a warning sign that warrants a visit to a doctor.

I'm not posting that to blame Van der Beek for his diagnosis, but because it's apparently something that a lot of people are unaware of.


And far more common is DIET, which he adjusted FIRST, and when that didn’t help, THEN he got a colonoscopy.

You’re either a ridiculous hypochondriac or just a run of the mill @$$hole.
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Anonymous wrote:So sad for his six children and his wife.


Me too. It seems like Kimberly has never worked (at least since she married him). I hope he had good life insurance. Raising six kids and maintaining a big farm in Texas (or anywhere, really) must be incredibly expensive. I have a feeling they weren't in a good place financially since James was auctioning off memorabilia from his football movie.


Wife has already started a gofundme


Lol the rich persons go to. She can't work?


Her husband isn't even buried yet. She and her kids are in mourning. She has a farm/ranch to run. Her youngest child is 2 or 3 years old. She hasn't worked since 2010 because she's been a SAHM.
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Usually the rule of thumb is to consult a physician if you have changes that last two
Weeks or more. We’re not talking about a couple of dodgy bowel movements.
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Anonymous wrote:So sad for his six children and his wife.


Me too. It seems like Kimberly has never worked (at least since she married him). I hope he had good life insurance. Raising six kids and maintaining a big farm in Texas (or anywhere, really) must be incredibly expensive. I have a feeling they weren't in a good place financially since James was auctioning off memorabilia from his football movie.


Wife has already started a gofundme


Lol the rich persons go to. She can't work?


Her husband isn't even buried yet. She and her kids are in mourning. She has a farm/ranch to run. Her youngest child is 2 or 3 years old. She hasn't worked since 2010 because she's been a SAHM.


Surely they had life insurance? So sad for them but it feels a lot like Mandy Moore asking for money. Surely LMM’s foundation can help instead of shaking down the poors via GFM.
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Now they’ve just doubled it. Started 350k, now 700k, will top millions I am sure. Must be nice.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please get your colonoscopies! 45 with no family history, younger if you you have a history.


James got his. Feels like you are blaming him.


I don’t believe he got them as he should have:

- he was unaware that the screening age had dropped from 50 to 45

- he had changes in his bowel habits and attributed it to caffeine intake rather than speaking to a physician


What?

Who cares if he knew the screening age if he still got one at what turned out to be the recommended screening age?

People have changes in bowel habits for myriad reasons. I hope you don’t suggest that one go running to the doctor or for a colonoscopy as the first step every time? In addition to being impractical on a personal level, it’s impractical on a system level.

He was diagnosed at 46. He did not get screened at 45 and had publicly said he didn’t know screening was recommended at 45. I am suggesting people get tested when recommended and discuss changes in your status with your physician.


This is the medical equivalent of being pedantic.


It was 17 months after he turned 45 before he was screened AND he was not asymptomatic. Certain cancers cause things like oily or floating poop. This is not just caffeine makes me go. He had unexplained weightloss (another cancer indicator) and fatigue as well as abdominal pain.





So I completely disagree.


Okay. I’m sure that you need to tell yourself he died of cancer at 48 freaking years old because HE f—ked up somehow.

Hopefully that will make you feel more in control.


Wtf? No, I am simply saying he had symptoms like abdominal pain and bowel changes, unexplained fatigue and weight loss- which he blew off as caffeine related. If you think those combined symptoms don’t warrant finding out what is going on, that’s likely the minority. It isn’t blaming someone to simply say that those symptoms should have resulted in talking to a doctor sooner than he did and he himself said I was late getting a colonscopy. It’s not blaming him…it’s correcting people who say it’s pedantic to get a colonscopy right when it’s due (and ignores that he was symptomatic).

I would imagine even he wld have said he shld have moved faster. Only you think it was just fine to ignore everything.
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Anonymous wrote:Now they’ve just doubled it. Started 350k, now 700k, will top millions I am sure. Must be nice.


Just because they're stating a goal doesn't mean they'll reach it. We have no idea if they bought that ranch with cash or there's a mortgage, if his health insurance paid for all his medical treatments or not, etc.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please get your colonoscopies! 45 with no family history, younger if you you have a history.


James got his. Feels like you are blaming him.


I don’t believe he got them as he should have:

- he was unaware that the screening age had dropped from 50 to 45

- he had changes in his bowel habits and attributed it to caffeine intake rather than speaking to a physician


What?

Who cares if he knew the screening age if he still got one at what turned out to be the recommended screening age?

People have changes in bowel habits for myriad reasons. I hope you don’t suggest that one go running to the doctor or for a colonoscopy as the first step every time? In addition to being impractical on a personal level, it’s impractical on a system level.


Yes, and one of those can be colon cancer. It's specifically a warning sign that warrants a visit to a doctor.

I'm not posting that to blame Van der Beek for his diagnosis, but because it's apparently something that a lot of people are unaware of.


And far more common is DIET, which he adjusted FIRST, and when that didn’t help, THEN he got a colonoscopy.

You’re either a ridiculous hypochondriac or just a run of the mill @$$hole.


Except he never said his diet changed. How is diet the answer for UNEXPLAINED weight loss and fatigue? It would be known then (cut back on carbs and expected to and did lose weight). And new gastro pains is not something you just ignore.

Your attitude is exactly why people resist going to a doctor when they need to. Bc YOU label it as hypochondria. Grow up
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Some people donated really weird amounts to the Go Fund Me. Miranda Kerr donated $1476, and some people signed up to donate (less) monthly, which I hadn't even realized was an option.
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Anonymous wrote:Now they’ve just doubled it. Started 350k, now 700k, will top millions I am sure. Must be nice.


Just because they're stating a goal doesn't mean they'll reach it. We have no idea if they bought that ranch with cash or there's a mortgage, if his health insurance paid for all his medical treatments or not, etc.


Exactly! People are so cruel. For all we know they leveraged everything to pay for medical treatments. America is the ONLY country in the world where people literally go bankrupt paying medial bills and medical bills are the number one cause of personal bankruptcy. He may have been well off but chemotherapy and hospital bills will eat right though your savings quickly.

Have some compassion.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please get your colonoscopies! 45 with no family history, younger if you you have a history.


James got his. Feels like you are blaming him.


I don’t believe he got them as he should have:

- he was unaware that the screening age had dropped from 50 to 45

- he had changes in his bowel habits and attributed it to caffeine intake rather than speaking to a physician


What?

Who cares if he knew the screening age if he still got one at what turned out to be the recommended screening age?

People have changes in bowel habits for myriad reasons. I hope you don’t suggest that one go running to the doctor or for a colonoscopy as the first step every time? In addition to being impractical on a personal level, it’s impractical on a system level.


Yes, and one of those can be colon cancer. It's specifically a warning sign that warrants a visit to a doctor.

I'm not posting that to blame Van der Beek for his diagnosis, but because it's apparently something that a lot of people are unaware of.


By my math, he was 46 at diagnosis. It's not clear how much his prognosis would have changed if he had gone a year earlier at 45, given that colon cancer is typically slow growing.
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Everyone should get colonoscopy at 40
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please get your colonoscopies! 45 with no family history, younger if you you have a history.


James got his. Feels like you are blaming him.


I don’t believe he got them as he should have:

- he was unaware that the screening age had dropped from 50 to 45

- he had changes in his bowel habits and attributed it to caffeine intake rather than speaking to a physician


What?

Who cares if he knew the screening age if he still got one at what turned out to be the recommended screening age?

People have changes in bowel habits for myriad reasons. I hope you don’t suggest that one go running to the doctor or for a colonoscopy as the first step every time? In addition to being impractical on a personal level, it’s impractical on a system level.


Yes, and one of those can be colon cancer. It's specifically a warning sign that warrants a visit to a doctor.

I'm not posting that to blame Van der Beek for his diagnosis, but because it's apparently something that a lot of people are unaware of.


And far more common is DIET, which he adjusted FIRST, and when that didn’t help, THEN he got a colonoscopy.

You’re either a ridiculous hypochondriac or just a run of the mill @$$hole.


Except he never said his diet changed. How is diet the answer for UNEXPLAINED weight loss and fatigue? It would be known then (cut back on carbs and expected to and did lose weight). And new gastro pains is not something you just ignore.

Your attitude is exactly why people resist going to a doctor when they need to. Bc YOU label it as hypochondria. Grow up


I saw a hospice nurse say that unexplained weight loss is a giant red flag for cancer and should be quickly looked into.

Happened to a friend of mine. He started losing weight in the fall, and everyone thought his new diet was working really well. Then he got skinnier and skinnier. By Christmas he was in to the doctor, and they found pancreatic cancer. He was gone three weeks after his diagnosis
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please get your colonoscopies! 45 with no family history, younger if you you have a history.


James got his. Feels like you are blaming him.


I don’t believe he got them as he should have:

- he was unaware that the screening age had dropped from 50 to 45

- he had changes in his bowel habits and attributed it to caffeine intake rather than speaking to a physician


What?

Who cares if he knew the screening age if he still got one at what turned out to be the recommended screening age?

People have changes in bowel habits for myriad reasons. I hope you don’t suggest that one go running to the doctor or for a colonoscopy as the first step every time? In addition to being impractical on a personal level, it’s impractical on a system level.

He was diagnosed at 46. He did not get screened at 45 and had publicly said he didn’t know screening was recommended at 45. I am suggesting people get tested when recommended and discuss changes in your status with your physician.


This is the medical equivalent of being pedantic.


It was 17 months after he turned 45 before he was screened AND he was not asymptomatic. Certain cancers cause things like oily or floating poop. This is not just caffeine makes me go. He had unexplained weightloss (another cancer indicator) and fatigue as well as abdominal pain.





So I completely disagree.


Okay. I’m sure that you need to tell yourself he died of cancer at 48 freaking years old because HE f—ked up somehow.

Hopefully that will make you feel more in control.


Wtf? No, I am simply saying he had symptoms like abdominal pain and bowel changes, unexplained fatigue and weight loss- which he blew off as caffeine related. If you think those combined symptoms don’t warrant finding out what is going on, that’s likely the minority. It isn’t blaming someone to simply say that those symptoms should have resulted in talking to a doctor sooner than he did and he himself said I was late getting a colonscopy. It’s not blaming him…it’s correcting people who say it’s pedantic to get a colonscopy right when it’s due (and ignores that he was symptomatic).

I would imagine even he wld have said he shld have moved faster. Only you think it was just fine to ignore everything.


Yes I feel like one downside of the movement focusing on food and food intolerances is that a lot of people say “oh I guess I need to cut dairy or gluten or caffeine” or whatever. and mess around with a lot of diet changes instead of seeing a doctor. then some doctors write it off as anxiety or IBS. It can also be a sign of pancreatic cancer, as well as colorectal cancer. If it doesn’t go away kn a week or two, you need to see a doctor and be persistent about it.
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