Chinese Universities Surge in Global Rankings as U.S. Schools Slip

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Chinese American scientists are leaving the US for China after studying here. This is how China will race ahead of the US in AI and other tech.

What complete and utter nonsense.

you are clueless.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/series/3325286/abandoning-us-top-chinese-scientists-return-home

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in engineering R&D. Whenever I see a scientific paper published by US/Europe/Japanese organizations that give a promising result, I'm able to reproduce the results. For the Chinese organizations, for the vast majority of time, I'm either unable to reproduce the results or once I invest time on the paper, I realize that the authors did not present the full picture that would unveil the cons of their solution.

And if you work in engineering R&D, hopefully you have a basic understanding of statistics and know that your narrow experience does not represent the universe of Chinese research.

I've read hundreds, if not thousands, of papers. And believe me. I know how statistics work.

You’re saying the editors at Nature and Science are less intelligent or less experienced than you are at identifying legitimate research? You don’t sound like a troll at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are always so shocked to hear we are not as ahead as we assume we are.

Go to Oslo, Hong Kong or Sydney, in comparison NYC and Chicago look like absolute dumps.

I have a colleague from Beijing, young guy, did undergrad at some college in China I've never heard of (doesn't mean anything as I'm not up on top chinese colleges), then moved here to complete 2 graduate degrees (advanced math and electrical engineering) from MIT in 3 years while raising young children without family help. His wife was also at MIT and works. Their 9 year old can do math my 14 year old can't do.

If they’re so far ahead, why does he need to move to the U.S. for a job?
AI can do a lot more math than majority of the population. so what

There’re so many idiots like this one, which shows Americans have zero critical thinking abilities. How sad! Maybe it’s because the U.S. companies pay more for the same work and effort? Or maybe most Americans are so stupid that they don’t face much competition here relative to China?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Chinese American scientists are leaving the US for China after studying here. This is how China will race ahead of the US in AI and other tech.

What complete and utter nonsense.

you are clueless.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/series/3325286/abandoning-us-top-chinese-scientists-return-home

I’m spot on, actually. This is the South China Morning Post, a well-known CCP mouthpiece.

Still more trustworthy than American media

Lol, keep on trolling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Chinese American scientists are leaving the US for China after studying here. This is how China will race ahead of the US in AI and other tech.

Doesn’t matter. The U.S. top tech is dominated by Chinese anyways

You meant the Chinese attended those schools in China?

The AI leaders in the U.S. are 50% Chinese born. And 50% of the other half are Chinese born in America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Chinese American scientists are leaving the US for China after studying here. This is how China will race ahead of the US in AI and other tech.

Doesn’t matter. The U.S. top tech is dominated by Chinese anyways

You meant the Chinese attended those schools in China?

The AI leaders in the U.S. are 50% Chinese born. And 50% of the other half are Chinese born in America.

And "AI Leaders" 100% attended Chinese universities? Ok good.

[Anonymous]

China is still going to be very much a patriarchal culture so I am not sure it will be a desirable choice for most people who aren't in STEM.

[Anonymous]

The number one comment on the NY Times article is:
"That our Secretary of Education is the former CEO of World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) tells us everything we need to know about the Trump administration's commitment to higher education and academic research. But cheer up folks! 194th-ranked Notre Dame could still beat 12th-ranked Tsinghua University in football any day."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in engineering R&D. Whenever I see a scientific paper published by US/Europe/Japanese organizations that give a promising result, I'm able to reproduce the results. For the Chinese organizations, for the vast majority of time, I'm either unable to reproduce the results or once I invest time on the paper, I realize that the authors did not present the full picture that would unveil the cons of their solution.

And if you work in engineering R&D, hopefully you have a basic understanding of statistics and know that your narrow experience does not represent the universe of Chinese research.

I've read hundreds, if not thousands, of papers. And believe me. I know how statistics work.

You’re saying the editors at Nature and Science are less intelligent or less experienced than you are at identifying legitimate research? You don’t sound like a troll at all.

I'm world-renowned in my field (and yet DCUM is so addictive Plus, if you don't get your hands dirty a bit, you may not be able to detect the liar authors. Your little brain that doesn't comprehend does not make me a troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in engineering R&D. Whenever I see a scientific paper published by US/Europe/Japanese organizations that give a promising result, I'm able to reproduce the results. For the Chinese organizations, for the vast majority of time, I'm either unable to reproduce the results or once I invest time on the paper, I realize that the authors did not present the full picture that would unveil the cons of their solution.

And if you work in engineering R&D, hopefully you have a basic understanding of statistics and know that your narrow experience does not represent the universe of Chinese research.

I've read hundreds, if not thousands, of papers. And believe me. I know how statistics work.

You’re saying the editors at Nature and Science are less intelligent or less experienced than you are at identifying legitimate research? You don’t sound like a troll at all.

I'm world-renowned in my field (and yet DCUM is so addictive Plus, if you don't get your hands dirty a bit, you may not be able to detect the liar authors. Your little brain that doesn't comprehend does not make me a troll.

Are you the same loser who had to fake Stanford alum just to argue with someone on an anonymous forum?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in engineering R&D. Whenever I see a scientific paper published by US/Europe/Japanese organizations that give a promising result, I'm able to reproduce the results. For the Chinese organizations, for the vast majority of time, I'm either unable to reproduce the results or once I invest time on the paper, I realize that the authors did not present the full picture that would unveil the cons of their solution.

And if you work in engineering R&D, hopefully you have a basic understanding of statistics and know that your narrow experience does not represent the universe of Chinese research.

I've read hundreds, if not thousands, of papers. And believe me. I know how statistics work.

You’re saying the editors at Nature and Science are less intelligent or less experienced than you are at identifying legitimate research? You don’t sound like a troll at all.

I'm world-renowned in my field (and yet DCUM is so addictive Plus, if you don't get your hands dirty a bit, you may not be able to detect the liar authors. Your little brain that doesn't comprehend does not make me a troll.

Are you the same loser who had to fake Stanford alum just to argue with someone on an anonymous forum?

No, that must be another loser
So when you have no argument left, do you usually make baseless accusations like this? Classy.

[Anonymous]

It’s kinda funny seeing people in this thread do the whole “Chinese people can’t innovate! They all cheat” bit as if the top us researchers aren’t also Chinese, often raised in china and using the PhD to emigrate. Chinese people are over represented in our undergraduate and graduate programs, because they have their shit together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The number one comment on the NY Times article is:
"That our Secretary of Education is the former CEO of World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) tells us everything we need to know about the Trump administration's commitment to higher education and academic research. But cheer up folks! 194th-ranked Notre Dame could still beat 12th-ranked Tsinghua University in football any day."

Do you guys personally know faculty at Tsinghua? The politics there is scarier than The Exorcist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Research dominance by American universities is slipping.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/15/us/harvard-global-ranking-chinese-universities-trump-cuts.html

Chinese Universities Surge in Global Rankings as U.S. Schools Slip
Harvard still dominates, though it fell to No. 3 on a list measuring academic output. Other American universities are falling farther behind their global peers.

Until recently, Harvard was the most productive research university in the world, according to a global ranking that looks at academic publication.

That position may be teetering, the most recent evidence of a troubling trend for American academia.

Harvard recently dropped to No. 3 on the ranking. The schools racing up the list are not Harvard’s American peers, but Chinese universities that have been steadily climbing in rankings that emphasize the volume and quality of research they produce.

The reordering comes as the Trump administration has been slashing research funding to American schools that depend heavily on the federal government to pay for scientific endeavors. President Trump’s policies did not start the American universities’ relative decline, which began years ago, but they could accelerate it.

The cuts are reducing frauds and scams. We need to cut more fraud, waste and abuse from these universities.

Absolutely. And indiscriminate amputation is the best treatment for hangnails.

Meanwhile, in the real world, adults who follow the news know that the criminal teenagers and culture warriors making these cuts generally had absolutely no idea what the research they were cutting even did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well duh. When you shut down research, that’s what’ll happen.

They have been and still are stealing technologies and patents from US. Why are they sending millions of foreign students and stealing our trade secrets if their universities are better? They can all stay there and attend their "great" universities.

Wow be aware your kids most likely will be taught by these Chinese faculty!