Chinese Universities Surge in Global Rankings as U.S. Schools Slip

[Anonymous]

Why doesn’t the New York Times discuss youth unemployment or career development in both countries—especially comparing the top 10 to the top 10? Including GDP per college graduate in the past decade.

[Anonymous]

People are always so shocked to hear we are not as ahead as we assume we are.

Go to Oslo, Hong Kong or Sydney, in comparison NYC and Chicago look like absolute dumps.

I have a colleague from Beijing, young guy, did undergrad at some college in China I've never heard of (doesn't mean anything as I'm not up on top chinese colleges), then moved here to complete 2 graduate degrees (advanced math and electrical engineering) from MIT in 3 years while raising young children without family help. His wife was also at MIT and works. Their 9 year old can do math my 14 year old can't do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People are always so shocked to hear we are not as ahead as we assume we are.

Go to Oslo, Hong Kong or Sydney, in comparison NYC and Chicago look like absolute dumps.

I have a colleague from Beijing, young guy, did undergrad at some college in China I've never heard of (doesn't mean anything as I'm not up on top chinese colleges), then moved here to complete 2 graduate degrees (advanced math and electrical engineering) from MIT in 3 years while raising young children without family help. His wife was also at MIT and works. Their 9 year old can do math my 14 year old can't do.

If they’re so far ahead, why does he need to move to the U.S. for a job?
AI can do a lot more math than majority of the population. so what

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People are always so shocked to hear we are not as ahead as we assume we are.

Go to Oslo, Hong Kong or Sydney, in comparison NYC and Chicago look like absolute dumps.

I have a colleague from Beijing, young guy, did undergrad at some college in China I've never heard of (doesn't mean anything as I'm not up on top chinese colleges), then moved here to complete 2 graduate degrees (advanced math and electrical engineering) from MIT in 3 years while raising young children without family help. His wife was also at MIT and works. Their 9 year old can do math my 14 year old can't do.

Boston is in really bad shape

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well duh. When you shut down research, that’s what’ll happen.

They have been and still are stealing technologies and patents from US. Why are they sending millions of foreign students and stealing our trade secrets if their universities are better? They can all stay there and attend their "great" universities.

Evidence? Or just pulling shit out of your ass?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work in engineering R&D. Whenever I see a scientific paper published by US/Europe/Japanese organizations that give a promising result, I'm able to reproduce the results. For the Chinese organizations, for the vast majority of time, I'm either unable to reproduce the results or once I invest time on the paper, I realize that the authors did not present the full picture that would unveil the cons of their solution.

And if you work in engineering R&D, hopefully you have a basic understanding of statistics and know that your narrow experience does not represent the universe of Chinese research.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well duh. When you shut down research, that’s what’ll happen.

They have been and still are stealing technologies and patents from US. Why are they sending millions of foreign students and stealing our trade secrets if their universities are better? They can all stay there and attend their "great" universities.

Evidence? Or just pulling shit out of your ass?

Now, now, let’s not start using those types of naughty words, Comrade.

[Anonymous]

Maybe those schools or ranking companies even paid NYTimes to promote themselves—who knows? Why should I trust that?

[Anonymous]

This is the rankings they utilized for the article.

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/latest/world-ranking

Top 20 US Universities per Times is below for 2026

US Rank World Rank
1.MIT (W) #2
2. Princeton W 3
3. Harvard W5
4. Stanford W 5
5 Cal Tech W 7
6 UC Berkely W9
7 Yale W10
8 Penn W14
9 UChicago W15
10 JHU W16
11 Cornell W18
12 UCLA W18
13 Columbia W20
14 UMichigan W25
15 CMU W24
16 University of Washington W25
17Duke W28
18 Northwestern W30
19 NYU W 31
20 Georgia Tech W41

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in engineering R&D. Whenever I see a scientific paper published by US/Europe/Japanese organizations that give a promising result, I'm able to reproduce the results. For the Chinese organizations, for the vast majority of time, I'm either unable to reproduce the results or once I invest time on the paper, I realize that the authors did not present the full picture that would unveil the cons of their solution.

And if you work in engineering R&D, hopefully you have a basic understanding of statistics and know that your narrow experience does not represent the universe of Chinese research.

I've read hundreds, if not thousands, of papers. And believe me. I know how statistics work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well duh. When you shut down research, that’s what’ll happen.

They have been and still are stealing technologies and patents from US. Why are they sending millions of foreign students and stealing our trade secrets if their universities are better? They can all stay there and attend their "great" universities.

Evidence? Or just pulling shit out of your ass?

DP. Have you been living under a rock for the past 40 years?

[Anonymous]

I just don’t understand why there are so many trolls… What do they want from Americans, really? Are they just looking to confidence boost?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is the rankings they utilized for the article.

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/latest/world-ranking

Top 20 US Universities per Times is below for 2026

US Rank World Rank
1.MIT (W) #2
2. Princeton W 3
3. Harvard W5
4. Stanford W 5
5 Cal Tech W 7
6 UC Berkely W9
7 Yale W10
8 Penn W14
9 UChicago W15
10 JHU W16
11 Cornell W18
12 UCLA W18
13 Columbia W20
14 UMichigan W25
15 CMU W24
16 University of Washington W25
17Duke W28
18 Northwestern W30
19 NYU W 31
20 Georgia Tech W41

The US occupies 7 out of the top 10 spots. The other 3 are all UK schools, as the rankings were done by some UK organization. So actually China has zero spot among the top 10? Not that I buy the rankings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is the rankings they utilized for the article.

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/latest/world-ranking

Top 20 US Universities per Times is below for 2026

US Rank World Rank
1.MIT (W) #2
2. Princeton W 3
3. Harvard W5
4. Stanford W 5
5 Cal Tech W 7
6 UC Berkely W9
7 Yale W10
8 Penn W14
9 UChicago W15
10 JHU W16
11 Cornell W18
12 UCLA W18
13 Columbia W20
14 UMichigan W25
15 CMU W24
16 University of Washington W25
17Duke W28
18 Northwestern W30
19 NYU W 31
20 Georgia Tech W41

That is NOT the rankings the article is talking about.

[Anonymous]

Ironically I just read this couple days ago

https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXZQOGN13BE50T10C26A1000000/?n_cid=SNSTW001&n_tw=1768338271

It’s in Japanese, but it basically discusses the increase in Chinese students attending Harvard, even after the Trump administration.

Make you wonder.