Women's colleges

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Anonymous wrote:There is an enormous difference between being at a women's college and being at a college that is "mostly" (60%) women.

At a 60% women college with 25% lesbian/bi that is 45% straight women.
At a women’s college where 80% (conservative number; probably much higher) are lesbian/bi that is 20% straight women.
So the best way for a woman to be around other straight women, where they are not a small minority being subjected to the “female gaze,” is to avoid women’s colleges altogether.
Obviously that is the antithesis of why women’s colleges were established in the first place and what made them great. Their time has passed.

not sure what you have against women's colleges or gay people.

I like diversity; women’s colleges do not have a diversity of women. They are therefore “women’s colleges” in name only. Sad statement though it may be, co-ed colleges have more female diversity.

Most women do not consider women’s colleges not because of lack of male access, but because they are made uncomfortable being their “straight” selves. By definition, then, women’s colleges are now anti-women.

What? My straight D has never said she's been made to be uncomforable being straight. Her college is very affirming of all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This question, again. OP, please do a search. There have been some threads previously about women's schools. Not everyone is lesbian. I loved my experience at Wellesley. FWIW, all my friends were straight and they're all happily married (to men) and have kids who are now applying to college. Apply if you feel it is the right fit. Don't discount it for stupid reasons like everyone is lesbian.

Same. About half of my Wellesley friends married MIT guys and we are all happily married.

I don’t think any of you realize how things have changed in the last generation at women’s schools.

I think it’s awful that these women correlate their college experience with access to men.

As opposed to current students, who “correlate their college experience” with access to female sexual partners?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is an enormous difference between being at a women's college and being at a college that is "mostly" (60%) women.

At a 60% women college with 25% lesbian/bi that is 45% straight women.
At a women’s college where 80% (conservative number; probably much higher) are lesbian/bi that is 20% straight women.
So the best way for a woman to be around other straight women, where they are not a small minority being subjected to the “female gaze,” is to avoid women’s colleges altogether.
Obviously that is the antithesis of why women’s colleges were established in the first place and what made them great. Their time has passed.

not sure what you have against women's colleges or gay people.

I like diversity; women’s colleges do not have a diversity of women. They are therefore “women’s colleges” in name only. Sad statement though it may be, co-ed colleges have more female diversity.

Most women do not consider women’s colleges not because of lack of male access, but because they are made uncomfortable being their “straight” selves. By definition, then, women’s colleges are now anti-women.

Depends which school and how you define diversity. Some have more racial diversity, international students, and students on pell grants than many other coed schools. But if one of those is your child's top priority, it makes sense to select for that. I was very happy at my 7 sisters school; there were students from all over the world, different sexual orientations, some way richer than I met before college and some much poorer. I lived in the east coast suburbs growing up so meeting someone from rural Vermont, or the Navajo nation, or east LA, or Nigeria was certainly diverse to me!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is an enormous difference between being at a women's college and being at a college that is "mostly" (60%) women.

At a 60% women college with 25% lesbian/bi that is 45% straight women.
At a women’s college where 80% (conservative number; probably much higher) are lesbian/bi that is 20% straight women.
So the best way for a woman to be around other straight women, where they are not a small minority being subjected to the “female gaze,” is to avoid women’s colleges altogether.
Obviously that is the antithesis of why women’s colleges were established in the first place and what made them great. Their time has passed.

not sure what you have against women's colleges or gay people.

I like diversity; women’s colleges do not have a diversity of women. They are therefore “women’s colleges” in name only. Sad statement though it may be, co-ed colleges have more female diversity.

Most women do not consider women’s colleges not because of lack of male access, but because they are made uncomfortable being their “straight” selves. By definition, then, women’s colleges are now anti-women.

Depends which school and how you define diversity. Some have more racial diversity, international students, and students on pell grants than many other coed schools. But if one of those is your child's top priority, it makes sense to select for that. I was very happy at my 7 sisters school; there were students from all over the world, different sexual orientations, some way richer than I met before college and some much poorer. I lived in the east coast suburbs growing up so meeting someone from rural Vermont, or the Navajo nation, or east LA, or Nigeria was certainly diverse to me!

I don't understand the claim about no diversity. My DD's women's college has racial diversity, socioeconomic diversity, geographic diversity, and a lot of international students. Also students of different sexual orientations. It is true that it does not tend to attract conservative MAGA types. But my DD said there is a surprising amount of diversity even so. No one is intolerant/homephobic. But there are the really left wing views vs the more moderate views. Some are pro Israel, some are pro Gaza, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This question, again. OP, please do a search. There have been some threads previously about women's schools. Not everyone is lesbian. I loved my experience at Wellesley. FWIW, all my friends were straight and they're all happily married (to men) and have kids who are now applying to college. Apply if you feel it is the right fit. Don't discount it for stupid reasons like everyone is lesbian.

Same. About half of my Wellesley friends married MIT guys and we are all happily married.

I don’t think any of you realize how things have changed in the last generation at women’s schools.

I think it’s awful that these women correlate their college experience with access to men.

As opposed to current students, who “correlate their college experience” with access to female sexual partners?

I don’t know a student who does this. This is some weird DCUM obsession with men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is an enormous difference between being at a women's college and being at a college that is "mostly" (60%) women.

At a 60% women college with 25% lesbian/bi that is 45% straight women.
At a women’s college where 80% (conservative number; probably much higher) are lesbian/bi that is 20% straight women.
So the best way for a woman to be around other straight women, where they are not a small minority being subjected to the “female gaze,” is to avoid women’s colleges altogether.
Obviously that is the antithesis of why women’s colleges were established in the first place and what made them great. Their time has passed.

not sure what you have against women's colleges or gay people.

I like diversity; women’s colleges do not have a diversity of women. They are therefore “women’s colleges” in name only. Sad statement though it may be, co-ed colleges have more female diversity.

Most women do not consider women’s colleges not because of lack of male access, but because they are made uncomfortable being their “straight” selves. By definition, then, women’s colleges are now anti-women.

What? My straight D has never said she's been made to be uncomforable being straight. Her college is very affirming of all.

My straight niece hated Scripps because if this. Dorm life was miserable. She really regrets going there.

[Anonymous]

Friend's straight daughter just transferred out from Scripps.

[Anonymous]

Same. My straight daughter never felt uncomfortable at Bryn Mawr. Never ever an issue for her. She does have friends of all orientation. She told me her friends that were tour guides were asked by fathers about this. I would say that if you feel
Uncomfortable with folks that identify other than straight don’t choose a woman’s college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Friend's straight daughter just transferred out from Scripps.

Sounds like that is an issue at this particular school. But it isn’t automatically the same at other women’s colleges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Same. My straight daughter never felt uncomfortable at Bryn Mawr. Never ever an issue for her. She does have friends of all orientation. She told me her friends that were tour guides were asked by fathers about this. I would say that if you feel
Uncomfortable with folks that identify other than straight don’t choose a woman’s college.

I think the problem is when 80% + students are lesbian or bi, they are the ones uncomfortable being around someone who is “straight”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is an enormous difference between being at a women's college and being at a college that is "mostly" (60%) women.

At a 60% women college with 25% lesbian/bi that is 45% straight women.
At a women’s college where 80% (conservative number; probably much higher) are lesbian/bi that is 20% straight women.
So the best way for a woman to be around other straight women, where they are not a small minority being subjected to the “female gaze,” is to avoid women’s colleges altogether.
Obviously that is the antithesis of why women’s colleges were established in the first place and what made them great. Their time has passed.

not sure what you have against women's colleges or gay people.

I like diversity; women’s colleges do not have a diversity of women. They are therefore “women’s colleges” in name only. Sad statement though it may be, co-ed colleges have more female diversity.

Most women do not consider women’s colleges not because of lack of male access, but because they are made uncomfortable being their “straight” selves. By definition, then, women’s colleges are now anti-women.

What? My straight D has never said she's been made to be uncomforable being straight. Her college is very affirming of all.

My straight niece hated Scripps because if this. Dorm life was miserable. She really regrets going there.

She didn't transfer? Why not? Or if she did, to where?

[Anonymous]

My Dd is a very happy first year at Scripps. She loves the 5Cs and is majoring at CMC. She has classes and eats with guys. She’s very fashiony, into seeing concerts in LA with and getting dressed up. Is she straight? I honestly don’t know- she’s not really into dating. Loves her friends and is a girls’ girl. She has friends at all the Claremont colleges from high school and others’ she’s met. A best friend is at Pomona and another couple at CMC. She could care less if someone is gay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Friend's straight daughter just transferred out from Scripps.

Sounds like that is an issue at this particular school. But it isn’t automatically the same at other women’s colleges.

I think this is an individual student issue and not a Scripps issue. There are plenty of straight girls there who love it. All the alum I know are straight and identified as straight while they were there as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Friend's straight daughter just transferred out from Scripps.

Sounds like that is an issue at this particular school. But it isn’t automatically the same at other women’s colleges.

I think this is an individual student issue and not a Scripps issue. There are plenty of straight girls there who love it. All the alum I know are straight and identified as straight while they were there as well.

Did any of them stay nearby for grad school/other school /work after scripps?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is an enormous difference between being at a women's college and being at a college that is "mostly" (60%) women.

At a 60% women college with 25% lesbian/bi that is 45% straight women.
At a women’s college where 80% (conservative number; probably much higher) are lesbian/bi that is 20% straight women.
So the best way for a woman to be around other straight women, where they are not a small minority being subjected to the “female gaze,” is to avoid women’s colleges altogether.
Obviously that is the antithesis of why women’s colleges were established in the first place and what made them great. Their time has passed.

not sure what you have against women's colleges or gay people.

I like diversity; women’s colleges do not have a diversity of women. They are therefore “women’s colleges” in name only. Sad statement though it may be, co-ed colleges have more female diversity.

Most women do not consider women’s colleges not because of lack of male access, but because they are made uncomfortable being their “straight” selves. By definition, then, women’s colleges are now anti-women.

What? My straight D has never said she's been made to be uncomforable being straight. Her college is very affirming of all.

A few straight women (and there are very few) in the WNBA have tried to make similar claims about not being “made to feel uncomfortable.”

But I don’t think anyone believes them.