No longer writing in middle school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, if your kid isn’t writing in a English, then you should reach out to their teacher to learn what is actuallly being assigned. Don’t get all your info from the kid.

+1 my kid has been writing all through middle school. Not as many 5 paragraph essays as I would have expected for English class but my kid says at least half of their exams involve writing paragraphs in class to answer questions (the other half are multiple choice).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child regularly wrote 1000 word essays in global humanities (HIGH) and the American History equivalent but that’s with an accelerated cohort unlike “advanced” English which is general eduction for all.

For English, so far it seems like a lot of multiple choice tests on prefixes and reading comprehension of texts assigned, but my kids’ English teacher last year assigned a lot more writing so I guess it depends on how much unpaid time they’re willing to put in to correct all the written work.

Length does not equal rigor, especially from a middle schooler. But I agree with your point in general that kids need practice.

The PP did not say that length was equal to rigor, but feel free to argue against arguments no one is making

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, if your kid isn’t writing in a English, then you should reach out to their teacher to learn what is actuallly being assigned. Don’t get all your info from the kid.

+1 my kid has been writing all through middle school. Not as many 5 paragraph essays as I would have expected for English class but my kid says at least half of their exams involve writing paragraphs in class to answer questions (the other half are multiple choice).

I mean, my kid has been asked to write paragraphs to answer questions on tests, quizzes, and assignments in 3rd grade English, it's not really a high bar for middle school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child regularly wrote 1000 word essays in global humanities (HIGH) and the American History equivalent but that’s with an accelerated cohort unlike “advanced” English which is general eduction for all.

For English, so far it seems like a lot of multiple choice tests on prefixes and reading comprehension of texts assigned, but my kids’ English teacher last year assigned a lot more writing so I guess it depends on how much unpaid time they’re willing to put in to correct all the written work.

Length does not equal rigor, especially from a middle schooler. But I agree with your point in general that kids need practice.

The PP did not say that length was equal to rigor, but feel free to argue against arguments no one is making

Ok boo I will

[Anonymous]

In MCPS, all middle school students are placed in the so-called ‘Advanced’ class, which is actually the on-grade-level course. There is no true above-grade-level English class — another example of how MCPS can be misleading

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can people name schools and whether they have advanced English for all or offer regular and advanced?

I’ll start: Silver Creek MS — all students placed in “advanced” English.

Westland MS--all students placed in advanced English-- guidance counselor confirmed it was the only option even though it was called "advanced". Honestly, I don't think people need to spend a lot of time trying to disprove a person who made a comment that differentiated English classes exist in middle school. People post all sorts of junk on DCUM, because it's anonymous and there's no accountability. I'm always shocked when people seem to take whatever is posted as "fact."

Some schools chose to only offer Advanced due to parent demand. Others because they believed it was more equitable. I’m not going to dox myself, but my advisory has students whose schedules do not say Advanced.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can people name schools and whether they have advanced English for all or offer regular and advanced?

I’ll start: Silver Creek MS — all students placed in “advanced” English.

Westland MS--all students placed in advanced English-- guidance counselor confirmed it was the only option even though it was called "advanced". Honestly, I don't think people need to spend a lot of time trying to disprove a person who made a comment that differentiated English classes exist in middle school. People post all sorts of junk on DCUM, because it's anonymous and there's no accountability. I'm always shocked when people seem to take whatever is posted as "fact."

Some schools chose to only offer Advanced due to parent demand. Others because they believed it was more equitable. I’m not going to dox myself, but my advisory has students whose schedules do not say Advanced.

I don’t believe you if you don’t name the school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can people name schools and whether they have advanced English for all or offer regular and advanced?

I’ll start: Silver Creek MS — all students placed in “advanced” English.

Westland MS--all students placed in advanced English-- guidance counselor confirmed it was the only option even though it was called "advanced". Honestly, I don't think people need to spend a lot of time trying to disprove a person who made a comment that differentiated English classes exist in middle school. People post all sorts of junk on DCUM, because it's anonymous and there's no accountability. I'm always shocked when people seem to take whatever is posted as "fact."

Some schools chose to only offer Advanced due to parent demand. Others because they believed it was more equitable. I’m not going to dox myself, but my advisory has students whose schedules do not say Advanced.

I don’t believe you if you don’t name the school.

You don’t have to believe anyone on the internet. The current catalog lists both courses at every grade level (p.10). If Central Office told schools they could only offer Advanced, why would they still list both courses and provide detailed descriptions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can people name schools and whether they have advanced English for all or offer regular and advanced?

I’ll start: Silver Creek MS — all students placed in “advanced” English.

Westland MS--all students placed in advanced English-- guidance counselor confirmed it was the only option even though it was called "advanced". Honestly, I don't think people need to spend a lot of time trying to disprove a person who made a comment that differentiated English classes exist in middle school. People post all sorts of junk on DCUM, because it's anonymous and there's no accountability. I'm always shocked when people seem to take whatever is posted as "fact."

Some schools chose to only offer Advanced due to parent demand. Others because they believed it was more equitable. I’m not going to dox myself, but my advisory has students whose schedules do not say Advanced.

I don’t believe you if you don’t name the school.

You don’t have to believe anyone on the internet. The current catalog lists both courses at every grade level (p.10). If Central Office told schools they could only offer Advanced, why would they still list both courses and provide detailed descriptions?

The question is what schools offer both. No one has listed even one school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can people name schools and whether they have advanced English for all or offer regular and advanced?

I’ll start: Silver Creek MS — all students placed in “advanced” English.

Westland MS--all students placed in advanced English-- guidance counselor confirmed it was the only option even though it was called "advanced". Honestly, I don't think people need to spend a lot of time trying to disprove a person who made a comment that differentiated English classes exist in middle school. People post all sorts of junk on DCUM, because it's anonymous and there's no accountability. I'm always shocked when people seem to take whatever is posted as "fact."

Some schools chose to only offer Advanced due to parent demand. Others because they believed it was more equitable. I’m not going to dox myself, but my advisory has students whose schedules do not say Advanced.

I don’t believe you if you don’t name the school.

You don’t have to believe anyone on the internet. The current catalog lists both courses at every grade level (p.10). If Central Office told schools they could only offer Advanced, why would they still list both courses and provide detailed descriptions?

The question is what schools offer both. No one has listed even one school.

That question came AFTER insistence that there was a dictate to only offer advanced.

[Anonymous]

I have a 6th grader and she's had to write a ton for both English and World Studies?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I sometimes wonder why some kids from immigrant families (parents not fluent in a English) have better writing and reading comprehension skills than kids from here. Immigrant parents can't help them at all.

They put their kids from age 3 or 4 in Kumon reading or other tutoring programs. Kumon reading has a lot of reading comprehension, grammar, vocabulary, and writing.

Actually, they supplement math, not reading.Ask me how I know.

Are you speaking for all immigrants? Signed--parent who had her kid in Kumon and knows there are all types of parents there who put their kids in both English and math instruction. (Although I didn't personally think either were very high quality and unenrolled my kid fairly quickly.)

I am an immigrant parent and I can attest that math is the preferred path. Most of the kids in after class math are coming from either Asisn or Indian families. If you ever go to math competitions, Science Olympiad, or Robotics - 90% are Asian and Indian students. Here goes equity here, nobody cares about FARMS rates, segregation, etc. Parents are old school and are pretty strict with their kids.

My children were in New Your Public Schools several years ago and that was also true. STEAM was dominated by Asian students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can people name schools and whether they have advanced English for all or offer regular and advanced?

I’ll start: Silver Creek MS — all students placed in “advanced” English.

Westland MS--all students placed in advanced English-- guidance counselor confirmed it was the only option even though it was called "advanced". Honestly, I don't think people need to spend a lot of time trying to disprove a person who made a comment that differentiated English classes exist in middle school. People post all sorts of junk on DCUM, because it's anonymous and there's no accountability. I'm always shocked when people seem to take whatever is posted as "fact."

Some schools chose to only offer Advanced due to parent demand. Others because they believed it was more equitable. I’m not going to dox myself, but my advisory has students whose schedules do not say Advanced.

I don’t believe you if you don’t name the school.

You don’t have to believe anyone on the internet. The current catalog lists both courses at every grade level (p.10). If Central Office told schools they could only offer Advanced, why would they still list both courses and provide detailed descriptions?

The question is what schools offer both. No one has listed even one school.

That question came AFTER insistence that there was a dictate to only offer advanced.

Please list the schools that offer both. I don’t think there are any.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can people name schools and whether they have advanced English for all or offer regular and advanced?

I’ll start: Silver Creek MS — all students placed in “advanced” English.

Westland MS--all students placed in advanced English-- guidance counselor confirmed it was the only option even though it was called "advanced". Honestly, I don't think people need to spend a lot of time trying to disprove a person who made a comment that differentiated English classes exist in middle school. People post all sorts of junk on DCUM, because it's anonymous and there's no accountability. I'm always shocked when people seem to take whatever is posted as "fact."

Some schools chose to only offer Advanced due to parent demand. Others because they believed it was more equitable. I’m not going to dox myself, but my advisory has students whose schedules do not say Advanced.

I don’t believe you if you don’t name the school.

You don’t have to believe anyone on the internet. The current catalog lists both courses at every grade level (p.10). If Central Office told schools they could only offer Advanced, why would they still list both courses and provide detailed descriptions?

Then link to the course catalog. You have to have a pretty high level of paranoia to think someone is going to "dox" you for naming a school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can people name schools and whether they have advanced English for all or offer regular and advanced?

I’ll start: Silver Creek MS — all students placed in “advanced” English.

Westland MS--all students placed in advanced English-- guidance counselor confirmed it was the only option even though it was called "advanced". Honestly, I don't think people need to spend a lot of time trying to disprove a person who made a comment that differentiated English classes exist in middle school. People post all sorts of junk on DCUM, because it's anonymous and there's no accountability. I'm always shocked when people seem to take whatever is posted as "fact."

Some schools chose to only offer Advanced due to parent demand. Others because they believed it was more equitable. I’m not going to dox myself, but my advisory has students whose schedules do not say Advanced.

I don’t believe you if you don’t name the school.

You don’t have to believe anyone on the internet. The current catalog lists both courses at every grade level (p.10). If Central Office told schools they could only offer Advanced, why would they still list both courses and provide detailed descriptions?

Then link to the course catalog. You have to have a pretty high level of paranoia to think someone is going to "dox" you for naming a school.

+1. Link to the individual school course catalogs that offer it. Not the general MCPS course catalog. Show us the schools.