Bethesda Magazine College Destination for Class of 2025

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Anonymous wrote:Emory Overall including Oxford 14%, Bethesda 16%
WashU Overall 12%, Bethesda 14%
Vanderbilt Overall 5%, Bethesda 15%
Rice Overall 8%, Bethesda 16%
CMU Overall 12%, Bethesda 10%
Dartmouth Overall 6%, Bethesda 5%
Nyu Overall 8%, Bethesda 16%

So, if you live in the area you know what schools to possibly aim for to increase your chances. I would avoid CMU and Dartmouth.

BCC had a weirdly good year with Vanderbilt ED. I was talking to parents about this and it surprised everyone because the kids weren't even top kids and it's never happened like this before.

Dartmouth from Bethesda was actually 4%. And Columbia was 3% (national rate 4 or 5%)

BCC had roughly 600 kids graduate last year. As a BCC parent, I can assure you there is virtually no chance any one parent or small group of parents knows all these kids, let alone what their stats and ECs are. Anyone suggesting that they can speak to what "surprised everyone" in such a large and diverse school is by that very statement making clear their statement can't be relied upon. My parent group (which doesn't include any of the Vandy kids) in fact was just merely impressed by those kids and reminded of how big a school it is, and how variable the number of admitted kids is from one year to the next. Please remember that some of those families may read DCUM and that it's just wrong to insult identifiable kids on this forum, especially if you don't have actual facts and knowledge to back them up.

Thank you for this. My BCC grad is friends with several of the Vandy kids and says they are all very smart and could have gotten in almost anywhere.

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DMV kids really don't like BU much. A miserable 10% yield rate.

It's Bethesda magazine. Kids in other regions /states do. Internationally as well.

As an "International" I can tell you BU is no great shakes, if even on anyone's radar.

That just means you were rejected. Hope you can get a visa.

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Also religion plays a factor. A few very Muslim girls my daughters class in Churchill went local with super high gpas

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Emory Overall including Oxford 14%, Bethesda 16%
WashU Overall 12%, Bethesda 14%
Vanderbilt Overall 5%, Bethesda 15%
Rice Overall 8%, Bethesda 16%
CMU Overall 12%, Bethesda 10%
Dartmouth Overall 6%, Bethesda 5%
Nyu Overall 8%, Bethesda 16%

So, if you live in the area you know what schools to possibly aim for to increase your chances. I would avoid CMU and Dartmouth.

BCC had a weirdly good year with Vanderbilt ED. I was talking to parents about this and it surprised everyone because the kids weren't even top kids and it's never happened like this before.

Dartmouth from Bethesda was actually 4%. And Columbia was 3% (national rate 4 or 5%)

BCC had roughly 600 kids graduate last year. As a BCC parent, I can assure you there is virtually no chance any one parent or small group of parents knows all these kids, let alone what their stats and ECs are. Anyone suggesting that they can speak to what "surprised everyone" in such a large and diverse school is by that very statement making clear their statement can't be relied upon. My parent group (which doesn't include any of the Vandy kids) in fact was just merely impressed by those kids and reminded of how big a school it is, and how variable the number of admitted kids is from one year to the next. Please remember that some of those families may read DCUM and that it's just wrong to insult identifiable kids on this forum, especially if you don't have actual facts and knowledge to back them up.

Thank you for this. My BCC grad is friends with several of the Vandy kids and says they are all very smart and could have gotten in almost anywhere.

The kid can't know that.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow Churchill was impressive!

A bit misleading at Churchill. UMD screwed Churchill hard this year. My kid with a 4.7 GPA and 13 APs could not get in even on wait list or delayed program. It skewed it a bit. A lot of those kids who wanted UMD to go instate had to go out of state. And with those GPAs they got into good schools. My kid I said if I am paying full freight pick the best school possible OOS.

And it went other way. My kid has two friends with almost a 4.8 WGPA who at at MoCo community college as parents did not want to pay OOS tuition and did not get into UMD. They plan to transfer over. My kids friends got into a bunch of great schools and still at MoCo. I am like she got into Pitt, Penn, American, NYU, and going to MoCo? Yep parents wont pay. So that also makes list look weird.

Include Blair for UMD. Went from almost 50% acceptance rate to 30%. My child with similar stats (submitted ACT scores) was also denied.

Meanwhile, in another thread where UMD is on a list of schools, people are assuming those schools are easy acceptances...

College counselor said UMD has grown concerned about its yield for rankings purposes. Don’t know if that’s true but it would explain not admitting high achievers, thinking they can and will go elsewhere (Hopkins, cmu etc). But Honors College at UmD is a great home for kids like that!!!!

That doesn't really make sense because UMD's yield is 25% and the number of kids in the honors college is only 10% of the class, by design. There's no room for a yield-moving amount of kids in the honors college.


Protecting yield by rejecting massive numbers of high performers drags down their SAT averages and other measures of academic and graduate success, which hurts rankings more than bumping yield helps.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow Churchill was impressive!

A bit misleading at Churchill. UMD screwed Churchill hard this year. My kid with a 4.7 GPA and 13 APs could not get in even on wait list or delayed program. It skewed it a bit. A lot of those kids who wanted UMD to go instate had to go out of state. And with those GPAs they got into good schools. My kid I said if I am paying full freight pick the best school possible OOS.

And it went other way. My kid has two friends with almost a 4.8 WGPA who at at MoCo community college as parents did not want to pay OOS tuition and did not get into UMD. They plan to transfer over. My kids friends got into a bunch of great schools and still at MoCo. I am like she got into Pitt, Penn, American, NYU, and going to MoCo? Yep parents wont pay. So that also makes list look weird.

Include Blair for UMD. Went from almost 50% acceptance rate to 30%. My child with similar stats (submitted ACT scores) was also denied.

Meanwhile, in another thread where UMD is on a list of schools, people are assuming those schools are easy acceptances...

RM’s acceptance rate to UMD was 24%, guess I should send my younger kids to Einstein.

I really wish UMD would release the stats by school. It would be interesting to see what stats you need from each school in MCPS compared to schools in other counties vs other states. Then break down that data by those that applied to limited enrollment programs.

It's more MoCo than school. UMD has geographic preference forower performing counties.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow Churchill was impressive!

A bit misleading at Churchill. UMD screwed Churchill hard this year. My kid with a 4.7 GPA and 13 APs could not get in even on wait list or delayed program. It skewed it a bit. A lot of those kids who wanted UMD to go instate had to go out of state. And with those GPAs they got into good schools. My kid I said if I am paying full freight pick the best school possible OOS.

And it went other way. My kid has two friends with almost a 4.8 WGPA who at at MoCo community college as parents did not want to pay OOS tuition and did not get into UMD. They plan to transfer over. My kids friends got into a bunch of great schools and still at MoCo. I am like she got into Pitt, Penn, American, NYU, and going to MoCo? Yep parents wont pay. So that also makes list look weird.

Include Blair for UMD. Went from almost 50% acceptance rate to 30%. My child with similar stats (submitted ACT scores) was also denied.

Meanwhile, in another thread where UMD is on a list of schools, people are assuming those schools are easy acceptances...

RM’s acceptance rate to UMD was 24%, guess I should send my younger kids to Einstein.

I really wish UMD would release the stats by school. It would be interesting to see what stats you need from each school in MCPS compared to schools in other counties vs other states. Then break down that data by those that applied to limited enrollment programs.

It’s completely ridiculous how the stats vary depending on the school you attend. I’m in a parent group and kids who attended mediocre high schools are struggling with pre-Cal and ones who come from strong areas of the state are saying that their kid meets all the requirements for LEP transfer (Bio) as a freshman first semester.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow Churchill was impressive!

A bit misleading at Churchill. UMD screwed Churchill hard this year. My kid with a 4.7 GPA and 13 APs could not get in even on wait list or delayed program. It skewed it a bit. A lot of those kids who wanted UMD to go instate had to go out of state. And with those GPAs they got into good schools. My kid I said if I am paying full freight pick the best school possible OOS.

And it went other way. My kid has two friends with almost a 4.8 WGPA who at at MoCo community college as parents did not want to pay OOS tuition and did not get into UMD. They plan to transfer over. My kids friends got into a bunch of great schools and still at MoCo. I am like she got into Pitt, Penn, American, NYU, and going to MoCo? Yep parents wont pay. So that also makes list look weird.

Include Blair for UMD. Went from almost 50% acceptance rate to 30%. My child with similar stats (submitted ACT scores) was also denied.

Meanwhile, in another thread where UMD is on a list of schools, people are assuming those schools are easy acceptances...

College counselor said UMD has grown concerned about its yield for rankings purposes. Don’t know if that’s true but it would explain not admitting high achievers, thinking they can and will go elsewhere (Hopkins, cmu etc). But Honors College at UmD is a great home for kids like that!!!!

That’s bunk and I keep hearing that. The issue is that Pines wants geographic diversity. He’s mad because if I recall the numbers correctly 17 percent of population in Maryland lives in MC but 30 percent of students who attended UMD are from MC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow Churchill was impressive!

A bit misleading at Churchill. UMD screwed Churchill hard this year. My kid with a 4.7 GPA and 13 APs could not get in even on wait list or delayed program. It skewed it a bit. A lot of those kids who wanted UMD to go instate had to go out of state. And with those GPAs they got into good schools. My kid I said if I am paying full freight pick the best school possible OOS.

And it went other way. My kid has two friends with almost a 4.8 WGPA who at at MoCo community college as parents did not want to pay OOS tuition and did not get into UMD. They plan to transfer over. My kids friends got into a bunch of great schools and still at MoCo. I am like she got into Pitt, Penn, American, NYU, and going to MoCo? Yep parents wont pay. So that also makes list look weird.

Include Blair for UMD. Went from almost 50% acceptance rate to 30%. My child with similar stats (submitted ACT scores) was also denied.

Meanwhile, in another thread where UMD is on a list of schools, people are assuming those schools are easy acceptances...

College counselor said UMD has grown concerned about its yield for rankings purposes. Don’t know if that’s true but it would explain not admitting high achievers, thinking they can and will go elsewhere (Hopkins, cmu etc). But Honors College at UmD is a great home for kids like that!!!!

That’s bunk and I keep hearing that. The issue is that Pines wants geographic diversity. He’s mad because if I recall the numbers correctly 17 percent of population in Maryland lives in MC but 30 percent of students who attended UMD are from MC.

Intelligent people sometimes don't see the forest for the trees.

The reason why UMD has so many kids from MoCo is because MoCo has, proportionally, more higher achieving kids.

This is like when people say, "oh that T10 school has an under representation of URM and over representation of Asian kids". Over/under representation of what? The entire US population? But the entire US population aren't applying to those schools. Look at the applicant pool. What % of URM are being accepted compared to the *applicant* pool, not the US. If URM don't apply in relative proportion to the US population, then no, you won't have the student body reflect the general US population.

The only way to get more non MoCo students into UMD is to lower the bar, and that would really impact the ranking. You can't have a high ranking and not admit the best and brightest, and the majority of those students in MD live in MoCo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow Churchill was impressive!

A bit misleading at Churchill. UMD screwed Churchill hard this year. My kid with a 4.7 GPA and 13 APs could not get in even on wait list or delayed program. It skewed it a bit. A lot of those kids who wanted UMD to go instate had to go out of state. And with those GPAs they got into good schools. My kid I said if I am paying full freight pick the best school possible OOS.

And it went other way. My kid has two friends with almost a 4.8 WGPA who at at MoCo community college as parents did not want to pay OOS tuition and did not get into UMD. They plan to transfer over. My kids friends got into a bunch of great schools and still at MoCo. I am like she got into Pitt, Penn, American, NYU, and going to MoCo? Yep parents wont pay. So that also makes list look weird.

Include Blair for UMD. Went from almost 50% acceptance rate to 30%. My child with similar stats (submitted ACT scores) was also denied.

Meanwhile, in another thread where UMD is on a list of schools, people are assuming those schools are easy acceptances...

College counselor said UMD has grown concerned about its yield for rankings purposes. Don’t know if that’s true but it would explain not admitting high achievers, thinking they can and will go elsewhere (Hopkins, cmu etc). But Honors College at UmD is a great home for kids like that!!!!

That’s bunk and I keep hearing that. The issue is that Pines wants geographic diversity. He’s mad because if I recall the numbers correctly 17 percent of population in Maryland lives in MC but 30 percent of students who attended UMD are from MC.

Intelligent people sometimes don't see the forest for the trees.

The reason why UMD has so many kids from MoCo is because MoCo has, proportionally, more higher achieving kids.

This is like when people say, "oh that T10 school has an under representation of URM and over representation of Asian kids". Over/under representation of what? The entire US population? But the entire US population aren't applying to those schools. Look at the applicant pool. What % of URM are being accepted compared to the *applicant* pool, not the US. If URM don't apply in relative proportion to the US population, then no, you won't have the student body reflect the general US population.

The only way to get more non MoCo students into UMD is to lower the bar, and that would really impact the ranking. You can't have a high ranking and not admit the best and brightest, and the majority of those students in MD live in MoCo.

They say it’s UMD not University of Montgomery County and now the UMD has become more popular it’s easier to do it. UVA plays similar games.