MSG - anyone else have terrible reactions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sensitive to MSG for sure. I can definitely tolerate some amount of it but will get a horrible migraine when it’s one of the top ingredients. Learned that the hard way with things like breakfast sausage and canned broth.

I can only recall one time where I had any sort of reaction after eating Chinese food. I was up in the middle of the night feeling anxious and nauseous. Not even sure that was from MSG since it was different from my usual reaction.

Also, two things: MSG is neurotoxic and a sensitivity is not an allergy.

Can someone do a sarcasm check on this for me?

I don't detect sarcasm, just someone who believes MSG can be one of the main ingredients in sausage.

I’m the one who posted that. You all are truly stupid. Go find one of those packages of Jimmy Dean breakfast sausage, the kind that comes in a big tube, and you let me know what ingredients are in it. Also go check out some of the cheaper brands of canned broth and let me know what you see as one of the top ingredients.

I avoid these kind of foods now not only because of the MSG but also because they are gross. The reactions I had were when I was much younger and broke.

I am literally a neuroscientist, so I know of what I speak. As a PP noted, glutamate is the main excitatory neurotransmitter in our nervous system. Too much of it is not a good thing, and it causes a process called excitotoxicity, which can kill the neurons. Here is one of many peer reviewed articles on the topic so you can educate your ignorant asses. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7854587/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sensitive to MSG for sure. I can definitely tolerate some amount of it but will get a horrible migraine when it’s one of the top ingredients. Learned that the hard way with things like breakfast sausage and canned broth.

I can only recall one time where I had any sort of reaction after eating Chinese food. I was up in the middle of the night feeling anxious and nauseous. Not even sure that was from MSG since it was different from my usual reaction.

Also, two things: MSG is neurotoxic and a sensitivity is not an allergy.

Can someone do a sarcasm check on this for me?

I don't detect sarcasm, just someone who believes MSG can be one of the main ingredients in sausage.

I’m the one who posted that. You all are truly stupid. Go find one of those packages of Jimmy Dean breakfast sausage, the kind that comes in a big tube, and you let me know what ingredients are in it. Also go check out some of the cheaper brands of canned broth and let me know what you see as one of the top ingredients.

I avoid these kind of foods now not only because of the MSG but also because they are gross. The reactions I had were when I was much younger and broke.

I am literally a neuroscientist, so I know of what I speak. As a PP noted, glutamate is the main excitatory neurotransmitter in our nervous system. Too much of it is not a good thing, and it causes a process called excitotoxicity, which can kill the neurons. Here is one of many peer reviewed articles on the topic so you can educate your ignorant asses. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7854587/

Again, that's technically true. Not practically relevant, but it is technically true.

I'm going to venture a guess that your career has a "neuroscientist" has not gone as you've hoped.

[Anonymous]

I am munching on fried potatoes and ground beef mix for breakfast, with msg in the meat, which I added. No reaction.

I have food allergies, severe food allergies. I have other allergies as well. As a child, I received immunoglobulin shots, which was a thing back then. I get migraines and experience immediate sneezing and coughing when exposed to strong scents. I get an upset stomach when I eat Vietnamese food, but not from most Chinese foods in restaurants.
I even hate cilantro. Celery, onions, garlic, and peppers all immediately make me throw up. I can eat cooked onions. I have a full-blown dairy allergy.
As a child, we thought I was allergic to seafood. Turns out it was the garlic. We used to go to the Mediterranean for our summer vacations, and, of course, that is when you eat a lot of fish. And there I was throwing up like crazy right after. It turns out that it was the garlic, so much garlic. As if fish and garlic were a match made in heaven, and maybe they are, just not for me.

You see where I am going with this? I am a total snowflake when it comes to allergies; it won't kill me on the spot, but it will be unpleasant. Iodine in the bloodstream? That will kill me. Heck, even these potatoes make me cough a bit.
You add chopped raw onion or garlic to anything you serve me, and I don't see it? I will hate you for the rest of my life, and you will hate me too because you have my puke on your floor.

I do not make a fuss of it, though. I just run for the bathroom, and I do not announce my issues to anyone. I know how to order and what to avoid. Other than dairy, I have to ask about that.

So, here is the thing, I do not react to msg, I buy it and I add it to the dishes. I ask all of you with MSG allergies to try that. Just cook your regular potatoes, and see what happens.

This is incredibly easy, and you don't have to read any labels or do any guesswork. Try it with and without it within two days and see what happens. And, easy breezy, you will know if you have an MSG issue or not.
As for Vietnamese food, there is something in there that gives me that reaction, not sure yet what it is.

I am now living and working in another country that offers a wide variety of Chinese food. I had it yesterday and the day before. I request no raw onions or garlic. Some Asian restaurants in the U.S. may add too much salt to their dishes or other unusual additives. But maybe it is just a lot of garlic, like it is for me with seafood?

[Anonymous]

Yay, our resident I am a microbiologist, is now a neuroscientist!

[Anonymous]

Anyone try regular American snacks and reports a reaction from msg?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sensitive to MSG for sure. I can definitely tolerate some amount of it but will get a horrible migraine when it’s one of the top ingredients. Learned that the hard way with things like breakfast sausage and canned broth.

I can only recall one time where I had any sort of reaction after eating Chinese food. I was up in the middle of the night feeling anxious and nauseous. Not even sure that was from MSG since it was different from my usual reaction.

Also, two things: MSG is neurotoxic and a sensitivity is not an allergy.

Can someone do a sarcasm check on this for me?

I don't detect sarcasm, just someone who believes MSG can be one of the main ingredients in sausage.

I’m the one who posted that. You all are truly stupid. Go find one of those packages of Jimmy Dean breakfast sausage, the kind that comes in a big tube, and you let me know what ingredients are in it. Also go check out some of the cheaper brands of canned broth and let me know what you see as one of the top ingredients.

I avoid these kind of foods now not only because of the MSG but also because they are gross. The reactions I had were when I was much younger and broke.

I am literally a neuroscientist, so I know of what I speak. As a PP noted, glutamate is the main excitatory neurotransmitter in our nervous system. Too much of it is not a good thing, and it causes a process called excitotoxicity, which can kill the neurons. Here is one of many peer reviewed articles on the topic so you can educate your ignorant asses. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7854587/

Again, that's technically true. Not practically relevant, but it is technically true.

I'm going to venture a guess that your career has a "neuroscientist" has not gone as you've hoped.

Every career has its ups and downs but overall I’ve been happy with mine. Happy enough that I don’t feel the need to be snarky about how other people’s careers are going in order to make myself feel better.

Yes, most of the evidence about MSG neurotoxicity comes from animal models. I am well aware that its ability to cross the blood brain barrier is relatively limited. Doesn’t change the fact that it has excitotoxic properties. Technically correct is correct.

I am not sure why you and some other here seem so invested in telling other people they do not react to MSG and that there is no such thing as being sensitive to it. You have no possible way of ruling that out.

Since you are so concerned about practical relevance: if you go to a doctor and tell them you’ve gotten terrible migraines or other symptoms on multiple occasions after ingesting a particular ingredient, what do you think their advice is going to be?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sensitive to MSG for sure. I can definitely tolerate some amount of it but will get a horrible migraine when it’s one of the top ingredients. Learned that the hard way with things like breakfast sausage and canned broth.

I can only recall one time where I had any sort of reaction after eating Chinese food. I was up in the middle of the night feeling anxious and nauseous. Not even sure that was from MSG since it was different from my usual reaction.

Also, two things: MSG is neurotoxic and a sensitivity is not an allergy.

Can someone do a sarcasm check on this for me?

I don't detect sarcasm, just someone who believes MSG can be one of the main ingredients in sausage.

I’m the one who posted that. You all are truly stupid. Go find one of those packages of Jimmy Dean breakfast sausage, the kind that comes in a big tube, and you let me know what ingredients are in it. Also go check out some of the cheaper brands of canned broth and let me know what you see as one of the top ingredients.

I avoid these kind of foods now not only because of the MSG but also because they are gross. The reactions I had were when I was much younger and broke.

I am literally a neuroscientist, so I know of what I speak. As a PP noted, glutamate is the main excitatory neurotransmitter in our nervous system. Too much of it is not a good thing, and it causes a process called excitotoxicity, which can kill the neurons. Here is one of many peer reviewed articles on the topic so you can educate your ignorant asses. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7854587/

Again, that's technically true. Not practically relevant, but it is technically true.

I'm going to venture a guess that your career has a "neuroscientist" has not gone as you've hoped.

Every career has its ups and downs but overall I’ve been happy with mine. Happy enough that I don’t feel the need to be snarky about how other people’s careers are going in order to make myself feel better.

Yes, most of the evidence about MSG neurotoxicity comes from animal models. I am well aware that its ability to cross the blood brain barrier is relatively limited. Doesn’t change the fact that it has excitotoxic properties. Technically correct is correct.

I am not sure why you and some other here seem so invested in telling other people they do not react to MSG and that there is no such thing as being sensitive to it. You have no possible way of ruling that out.

Since you are so concerned about practical relevance: if you go to a doctor and tell them you’ve gotten terrible migraines or other symptoms on multiple occasions after ingesting a particular ingredient, what do you think their advice is going to be?

If you were aware of that, why didn't you acknowledge to begin with? Pointing to that paper as evidence of the potential danger of MSGs is like arguing that bananas may be harmful to your heart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sensitive to MSG for sure. I can definitely tolerate some amount of it but will get a horrible migraine when it’s one of the top ingredients. Learned that the hard way with things like breakfast sausage and canned broth.

I can only recall one time where I had any sort of reaction after eating Chinese food. I was up in the middle of the night feeling anxious and nauseous. Not even sure that was from MSG since it was different from my usual reaction.

Also, two things: MSG is neurotoxic and a sensitivity is not an allergy.

Can someone do a sarcasm check on this for me?

I don't detect sarcasm, just someone who believes MSG can be one of the main ingredients in sausage.

I’m the one who posted that. You all are truly stupid. Go find one of those packages of Jimmy Dean breakfast sausage, the kind that comes in a big tube, and you let me know what ingredients are in it. Also go check out some of the cheaper brands of canned broth and let me know what you see as one of the top ingredients.

I avoid these kind of foods now not only because of the MSG but also because they are gross. The reactions I had were when I was much younger and broke.

I am literally a neuroscientist, so I know of what I speak. As a PP noted, glutamate is the main excitatory neurotransmitter in our nervous system. Too much of it is not a good thing, and it causes a process called excitotoxicity, which can kill the neurons. Here is one of many peer reviewed articles on the topic so you can educate your ignorant asses. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7854587/

Next to last. So that's an unusual definition of top.

[Anonymous]

I used to get terrible migraines. I think people wised up to the toxic effects of MSG and use less of it. I still get headaches from MSG plus lots of salt.

Also, fyi, if you're allergic to MSG you're probably also allergic to "autolyzed yeast extract" or plain yeast extract in ingredients lists, or rosemary extract -- all contain a lot of the same thing as MSG. Sorry i'm not a scientist so don't waste your time trying to correct me -- just look it up for yourself.