Has the fall off of MCPS been as bad as people say?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In terms of environment, teachers, and college outcomes.

Move to a red state

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Demographic changes (majority minority)

Socioeconomic changes (the county isn’t as wealthy as it used to be)

Covid (the county really effed up with keeping the kids home so long, greatly-lowered standards bc mental health, over reliance on Chromebooks)

Discipline changes (kids are less respectful these days just overall, thank you, gentle parenting, and schools are hamstrung on what they can do legally and try desperately to avoid suspending too many kids of color, and MCPS still has a lot of old, racist teachers who LOVE to blame everything on this- but it’s just one piece)

Political changes (since Trump Part 1 everyone has gotten more strident on both sides and too quickly accuses the other of malice and bad intentions)

And now the county is in the middle of a big redistricting (third rail!) and wants to get rid of the magnets (whose racist history is awful, and which are still too white, but which offered real enrichment for super high achievers, so which kept a segment of the families happy).

I have four kids who’ve gone thru MCPS and I still support public education and MCPS in general, but times are TOUGH right now and we can get thru it if we get rid of the stupid racist dog whistles about discipline and come together to make MCPS a decent place for all kids.

I think the way you layered, interrelated way you painted things here is right for the most part.

But I will quibble with you on the racism part.

There ARE a lot of student behavior issues that are being glossed over and avoided because you have cowards in the system who are fearful of being labeled racist for discipling Black kids, but as you point out that's just one piece of the puzzle. If we hone in on the student discipline aspect of this, as you admit, there ARE lots of racist white teachers and admin still in the system. For those lower-level infractions, a good portion of the behavior issues are initiated or exacerbated by the fact that the system has not purged those racist teachers and admin.

MCPS spent money investigating and developing an antiracism action plan to mitigate this. But nothing has happened.

So if MCPS admits racist White teachers and admin are a problem, and the evidence shows it's a problem, the system has a duty to address it.

BTW: White flight has pushed a lot of well-to-do out of MCPS, but increasingly, I'm seeing more middle class Black and Hispanic families flee to privates because they're shocked, appalled and disappointed by the state of MCPS. Especially in schools that are Title I at the elementary level and high FARMS at the secondary level.

Teachers of any race (as well as admin and parents) can be racist to other groups. We had admin hate the white kids in ES and at our HS - our one AP refuses to help smart kids/kids not of her race. It sucks and nothing you can do about it.

This is true. Overall, I don’t think the racism is as bad as some of you are saying. Lack of discipline is a huge issue. Teenagers need boundaries and some amount of structure. And most kids including black and brown kids would like a stable peaceful environment. The repeat offenders create mayhem that negatively affect kids of all races. Worse, they sap the energy and motivation of teachers, who then have less to give to the rest of the class

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The haters, the wannabes have been pushing this narrative for the last 15+ years, but they still cannot compete with MCPS. They cannot even compete with MCPS in the "it's academic" competition.

idiotic post. no one is talking about "competing". this is about problems within MCPS

So you admit they cannot compete academically with MCPS. Got it

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The haters, the wannabes have been pushing this narrative for the last 15+ years, but they still cannot compete with MCPS. They cannot even compete with MCPS in the "it's academic" competition.

Seriously. It's Academic is the hat you're hanging MCPS's reputation on? Despite ALL of the other things people pointed out are broken in this thread, your rebuttal is, "But we're unmatched on 'It's Academic"!"

Unreal.

It's academic is the least you could actually compete. Even there, y'all suck

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What are the chances that all the positive comments are coming from parents of Ws (including "honorary" BCC), Blair/Poolesville magnets or RMIB? The OP/topic clearly is system-wide, and we know MCPS doesn't provide equitable experiences across clusters.

The vast majority of MoCo parents IRL are happy with MCPS.
Most of the ones posting here are private schools parents, trolls and wannabes.
DCUM is not real life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The haters, the wannabes have been pushing this narrative for the last 15+ years, but they still cannot compete with MCPS. They cannot even compete with MCPS in the "it's academic" competition.

idiotic post. no one is talking about "competing". this is about problems within MCPS

So you admit they cannot compete academically with MCPS. Got it

Among other things, your comprehension skill is lacking. I am in MoCo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the chances that all the positive comments are coming from parents of Ws (including "honorary" BCC), Blair/Poolesville magnets or RMIB? The OP/topic clearly is system-wide, and we know MCPS doesn't provide equitable experiences across clusters.

The vast majority of MoCo parents IRL are happy with MCPS.
Most of the ones posting here are private schools parents, trolls and wannabes.
DCUM is not real life.

And that's not true but it's okkay...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the chances that all the positive comments are coming from parents of Ws (including "honorary" BCC), Blair/Poolesville magnets or RMIB? The OP/topic clearly is system-wide, and we know MCPS doesn't provide equitable experiences across clusters.

The vast majority of MoCo parents IRL are happy with MCPS.
Most of the ones posting here are private schools parents, trolls and wannabes.
DCUM is not real life.

And that's not true but it's okkay...

It's true. Over 80%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the chances that all the positive comments are coming from parents of Ws (including "honorary" BCC), Blair/Poolesville magnets or RMIB? The OP/topic clearly is system-wide, and we know MCPS doesn't provide equitable experiences across clusters.

The vast majority of MoCo parents IRL are happy with MCPS.
Most of the ones posting here are private schools parents, trolls and wannabes.
DCUM is not real life.

It'd be great if they required everyone to register an account so these people can't hide behind Anonymous posting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the chances that all the positive comments are coming from parents of Ws (including "honorary" BCC), Blair/Poolesville magnets or RMIB? The OP/topic clearly is system-wide, and we know MCPS doesn't provide equitable experiences across clusters.

The vast majority of MoCo parents IRL are happy with MCPS.
Most of the ones posting here are private schools parents, trolls and wannabes.
DCUM is not real life.

And that's not true but it's okkay...

It's true. Over 80%

LOL, sure bud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the chances that all the positive comments are coming from parents of Ws (including "honorary" BCC), Blair/Poolesville magnets or RMIB? The OP/topic clearly is system-wide, and we know MCPS doesn't provide equitable experiences across clusters.

The vast majority of MoCo parents IRL are happy with MCPS.
Most of the ones posting here are private schools parents, trolls and wannabes.
DCUM is not real life.

It'd be great if they required everyone to register an account so these people can't hide behind Anonymous posting

You have registered when you first signed on to use DCUM. You can use your registered name instead of "Anonymous". It's your call.

[Anonymous]

Wait until the new regional programming system is in place - then, unfortunately, we'll see what true fall-off looks like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the chances that all the positive comments are coming from parents of Ws (including "honorary" BCC), Blair/Poolesville magnets or RMIB? The OP/topic clearly is system-wide, and we know MCPS doesn't provide equitable experiences across clusters.

The vast majority of MoCo parents IRL are happy with MCPS.
Most of the ones posting here are private schools parents, trolls and wannabes.
DCUM is not real life.

And that's not true but it's okkay...

It's true. Over 80%

No, it's not.

https://montgomeryperspective.com/2025/03/06/county-survey-resident-perception-of-moco-declines/

K-12 education received a 68% positive rating in 2024. That’s below the 81-82% range of the earlier surveys, a precipitous drop. Superintendent Thomas Taylor’s recommended budget increase is so huge that it will probably require a property tax increase to fully fund. If residents’ perceptions of MCPS are indeed declining, are they willing to pay?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the chances that all the positive comments are coming from parents of Ws (including "honorary" BCC), Blair/Poolesville magnets or RMIB? The OP/topic clearly is system-wide, and we know MCPS doesn't provide equitable experiences across clusters.

The vast majority of MoCo parents IRL are happy with MCPS.
Most of the ones posting here are private schools parents, trolls and wannabes.
DCUM is not real life.

And that's not true but it's okkay...

It's true. Over 80%

No, it's not.

https://montgomeryperspective.com/2025/03/06/county-survey-resident-perception-of-moco-declines/

K-12 education received a 68% positive rating in 2024. That’s below the 81-82% range of the earlier surveys, a precipitous drop. Superintendent Thomas Taylor’s recommended budget increase is so huge that it will probably require a property tax increase to fully fund. If residents’ perceptions of MCPS are indeed declining, are they willing to pay?

It's still a majority, isn't it? One year decline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the chances that all the positive comments are coming from parents of Ws (including "honorary" BCC), Blair/Poolesville magnets or RMIB? The OP/topic clearly is system-wide, and we know MCPS doesn't provide equitable experiences across clusters.

The vast majority of MoCo parents IRL are happy with MCPS.
Most of the ones posting here are private schools parents, trolls and wannabes.
DCUM is not real life.

It'd be great if they required everyone to register an account so these people can't hide behind Anonymous posting

You have registered when you first signed on to use DCUM. You can use your registered name instead of "Anonymous". It's your call.

You don't need to register to use DCUM.