Starting salary or expected for your child

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Anonymous wrote:DC graduated from a public university in 2023. They had already run the hiring gauntlet with several law enforcement entities during their senior year and went right into one of their academies. The salary was +/- $65,000 in the academy. They started getting paychecks three weeks prior to their academy report date. After the six month academy they did field training for months before they were released to work independently. During the first year they received two raises that increased their salary about $9,000. Last year they started earning overtime and that has dramatically increased their total compensation. They will receive at least one 5% raise per year. It amazes me that young adults struggling to find work aren't looking more seriously at law enforcement.

My DS is interested in law enforcement, and is in his junior year. Can you share a bit more about which ones your DC looked into, where they ended up, major, that kind of thing?

I'm not going to out my DC but I can give you the type of information you might find helpful.

Does your son have a work history of any kind? Does he volunteer? Is he a member of any student organizations on campus? Things like that obviously help round out an application.

Make sure he's keeping his physical fitness up. As part of the pre-academy hiring process he will be required to run through various fitness assessments.

Most of the entities our child applied to had several requirements that necessitated multiple trips from school to the various headquarters. There were panel interviews, physicals, polygraphs, eye exams, psych exams and drug tests for each place. That will make senior year hectic if your son hopes to enter the academy during the summer or fall after graduation.

There are federal, state, county and local entities to consider. Our child's first choice was the FBI but the wait between graduation and the actual application process was far too long. They moved on to the more local options.

As for organizations to target, I wouldn't necessarily discriminate. It depends on your location and where he wants to settle in after college. Almost every organization has a recruiting page on their website that details salary ranges and benefits. Keep in mind that in many organizations a college degree means a higher starting salary than the one posted on the recruiting website. Foreign language proficiency also equates to a bump in salary. Sometimes the highest paying job isn't the best option in terms of fit and location. In and around the DMV the pay should be decent because of the COL. Hiring bonuses can be large. Relocation bonuses might be possible as well. Does your son want a take home police vehicle? Is the organization large enough that it staffs specialty units that he can train towards? There are a lot of things to consider.

Recruits will attend a law enforcement training academy. It usually lasts between five and seven months. Some are residential Sunday night through Friday and others allow recruits to go home every night. That might be a factor for your son to consider. I think every organization pays the recruits while they attend the academy. Some offer a slightly reduced academy salary but many pay the full salary for those months.

Majors are not a deal breaker. What they want is someone that can think on their feet and is willing to learn. They will teach you what you need to know in the academy. After the academy your specific organization will then train you further on how they operate. There is a steep learning curve from the time you enter the academy until you hit the streets independently.

Most recruits in the NoVa area go to the Northern Virginia Criminal Justice Training Academy or the Farifax County Criminal Justice Academy. The D.C. Metropolitan Police have their own academy. The Virginia State Police Academy is based out of Chesterfield. People think law enforcement officers don't get training, but they'd be hard pressed to get through the academies. There is a lot of studying at night. There are rankings on boards for everyone to see. It's the fire hose approach to learning for recruits from day one. There is no comfort zone when you walk through the academy door.

If your son goes this route I wish him the best. You'll be surprised by the benefits and the amount of money he makes 2-3 years out of the academy.

This is so stupid. My DS graduated from 292nd session of the FBI's Basic Field Training Course (BFTC), and he attended a private college. Please find the name.

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Anonymous wrote:Please include year of graduation, university (or type), industry (or even company)

Would be interested to see outcomes after all the stress kids and parents (emphasis on latter) go through when it comes to getting into college

My last kid to graduate from college did so in 2020, and she started at $45K. She's only now at $50K, but she's got a year to go to finish her master's degree & then can hopefully get a higher-paying and more fulfilling job. I typically stay away from these threads because they're depressing, but I figured maybe someone out there can take solace in the face that low salaries are also in the mix.

Take solace in the fact that people are on here lying their a$$es off.

Yep.

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Anonymous wrote:DC and friends mostly got mid to high six figures TC as fresh graduates from MIT majoring in math, cs, physics etc. they’ll be doing AI research (think OpenAI), quant trading etc.

BS. Mid-to-high six figures means they're earning over $500k/yr. Or do you not know that six figures goes from $100,000 to $999,999?

What BS? I doubt you know what you’re talking about? Look at how much these interns are paid. And they’re only interns.
https://www.levels.fyi/internships/

Doubt all you want, but I work for one of the companies on your list. Do you? Didn't think so.

It seems that I took you too seriously. You just turned out to be a charlatan. What was your role in the firm? Janitor?
Just STFU dude, you’re so fake. And you know nothing about this.

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Anonymous wrote:DC and friends mostly got mid to high six figures TC as fresh graduates from MIT majoring in math, cs, physics etc. they’ll be doing AI research (think OpenAI), quant trading etc.

BS. Mid-to-high six figures means they're earning over $500k/yr. Or do you not know that six figures goes from $100,000 to $999,999?

What BS? I doubt you know what you’re talking about? Look at how much these interns are paid. And they’re only interns.
https://www.levels.fyi/internships/

Doubt all you want, but I work for one of the companies on your list. Do you? Didn't think so.

It seems that I took you too seriously. You just turned out to be a charlatan. What was your role in the firm? Janitor?
Just STFU dude, you’re so fake. And you know nothing about this.

DP. “Just STFU dude” yeah, you don’t sound like you have a DC, you sound like the DC.

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This is so stupid. My DS graduated from 292nd session of the FBI's Basic Field Training Course (BFTC), and he attended a private college. Please find the name.

I’m aware of both academies and law enforcement entities that post the names of graduating recruit classes. A 60 second google search found FBI Class 291 but no specifics. I would guess the FBI is more diligent about discretion.

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Anonymous wrote:This is so stupid. My DS graduated from 292nd session of the FBI's Basic Field Training Course (BFTC), and he attended a private college. Please find the name.

Our DC became a police officer at 21. The FBI requires 2 years of work experience to apply for a SA position. After 2 years DC was making too much to make the FBI a viable career path financially. Good luck to your son.

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This is so stupid. My DS graduated from 292nd session of the FBI's Basic Field Training Course (BFTC), and he attended a private college. Please find the name.

I’m aware of both academies and law enforcement entities that post the names of graduating recruit classes. A 60 second google search found FBI Class 291 but no specifics. I would guess the FBI is more diligent about discretion.

They post names and pictures of police officers! Watch any of the graduating class videos from the police academies.

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Graduated from a T50 LAC with a degree in English and Gender Studies. Working in consulting making 90k.

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Non-stem, small school - $70K for a large company starting salary. Hybrid work.

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Anonymous wrote:DC and friends mostly got mid to high six figures TC as fresh graduates from MIT majoring in math, cs, physics etc. they’ll be doing AI research (think OpenAI), quant trading etc.

For things related to AI, it's like the NBA right now. The numbers are insane.

I have a mechanical engineering major at a T20. Not AI. But after the sophomore year internship, DC is looking at $180,000+ starting, plus bonus. In an engineering capacity, not finance. Still has two years to go, but that's what's on the table now.

Yeah top STEM talents are paid like professional athletes now. They can easily crack a few millions in compensation with a few YOE.

Comparing talented STEM majors to pro athletes is a disservice to these students. They are getting high six figures plus bonus/RSU which can equal maybe $250k to $600K at the higher end, while pro athletes are raking in millions. They also have to live in HCOL cities typically and have to meet certain lifestyles to network with peer group. Given there is no backstop in US for anyone when they get unemployed or wish to retire then a good amount also should be saved, which leaves them with very little.

I’m not talk about an average CS graduate, but those who are capable of doing AI research (not engineering) or quant trading. They’re making millions if not tens or hundreds of millions. Google Meta MSL recent recruits.

You know zero people who've landed one of these poaching offers, just like you know zero professional athletes.

It’s a stretch to assume that and it has nothing to do with the info I provided which is fact.

It's a stretch to assume anonymous posters are on the up and up. The fact that someone has received such a package, is very different from my DC and all their STEM friends are getting this treatment. I call BS. You give the game away suggesting the info stands regardless.

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Anonymous wrote:DC and friends mostly got mid to high six figures TC as fresh graduates from MIT majoring in math, cs, physics etc. they’ll be doing AI research (think OpenAI), quant trading etc.

For things related to AI, it's like the NBA right now. The numbers are insane.

I have a mechanical engineering major at a T20. Not AI. But after the sophomore year internship, DC is looking at $180,000+ starting, plus bonus. In an engineering capacity, not finance. Still has two years to go, but that's what's on the table now.

Yeah top STEM talents are paid like professional athletes now. They can easily crack a few millions in compensation with a few YOE.

Comparing talented STEM majors to pro athletes is a disservice to these students. They are getting high six figures plus bonus/RSU which can equal maybe $250k to $600K at the higher end, while pro athletes are raking in millions. They also have to live in HCOL cities typically and have to meet certain lifestyles to network with peer group. Given there is no backstop in US for anyone when they get unemployed or wish to retire then a good amount also should be saved, which leaves them with very little.

I’m not talk about an average CS graduate, but those who are capable of doing AI research (not engineering) or quant trading. They’re making millions if not tens or hundreds of millions. Google Meta MSL recent recruits.

You know zero people who've landed one of these poaching offers, just like you know zero professional athletes.

It’s a stretch to assume that and it has nothing to do with the info I provided which is fact.

It's a stretch to assume anonymous posters are on the up and up. The fact that someone has received such a package, is very different from my DC and all their STEM friends are getting this treatment. I call BS. You give the game away suggesting the info stands regardless.

Hmmm. Don’t think you’re qualified to make that kind of assessment. And you haven’t shared any details about your previous role in one of the firms. So far it’s only bluffing from you. If you actually had insight worth sharing, you’d present it with transparency instead of hiding behind vague innuendo. Until then, your claims don’t hold any weight.
For example, if you were a janitor , it’s hard to imagine you could gain meaningful understanding of a firm’s core business. Enlighten us on your credentials!

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is making me feel terrible. I’m a math/cs major from a T30, but plan to become a teacher, so I really only expect 50k. Feels like I’m behind everyone and doing something wrong.

Well, you chose this career path because you didn’t care about money that much.

Seriously, that is what you say to a young person feeling insecure because their righteous work is underpaid and undervalued in this country?

Young person: this country needs people like you. It is my fervent hope that someday the work of teachers and helping professionals will be more valued. Ignore the so called "grownups" on this board who seek prestige and status in the form of low admit schools, SAT scores, and money. That is not all there is to life. Best wishes.

Ditto.

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Anonymous wrote:Please include year of graduation, university (or type), industry (or even company)

Would be interested to see outcomes after all the stress kids and parents (emphasis on latter) go through when it comes to getting into college

Are you not paying attention? There will be no jobs Trump is burning the economy down
The wealthy have thrown shit at the walls in red states to see what sticks. They found the winning formula, wrote it into a plan called Project 2025, and now bring it nationwide.
They have installed the wealthiest man in the world to dismantle the country for himself and his fellow oligarchs. They plan to burn the country down to pay rock-bottom prices for the ashes.
A fire sale.
The plan is to make the US a version of Missouri. And just over 100 days in, we can see that the plan is working.

Whatever people post here is meaningless

However you asked my kids Engineering degrees made about $80,000 out of college are all either CTOs or CIOs by age 34 making way more than they started all at start ups

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If you join the SCOTUS Police Department you’ll get a $50k hiring bonus and a starting salary over $83k. After 30 months your salary will be $92k. You earn an additional 10% if you work between 6pm and 6am. If you work a Sunday your hourly rate goes up 25%.

Overtime at the starting salary is $60/hr.

50 hour weeks equates to over $114k in salary year one.

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Anonymous wrote:If you join the SCOTUS Police Department you’ll get a $50k hiring bonus and a starting salary over $83k. After 30 months your salary will be $92k. You earn an additional 10% if you work between 6pm and 6am. If you work a Sunday your hourly rate goes up 25%.

Overtime at the starting salary is $60/hr.

50 hour weeks equates to over $114k in salary year one.

This is not the flex you think it is. Bare minimum six figures working a graveyard shift?? That’s crap.