Will RTO be relaxed ever?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nope time for you lazy feds to get back to work.

This is why you don’t want boomers in charge, literally going backwards. They can’t fathom people working remotely.

Once they all retire, move on, as long as we don’t keep electing the elderly, things will go back to normal, common sense wins out typically.

It was proven you all weren't "working" from home. Sorry you need a baby sitter. Maybe if you dislike your job so much look for a new one or start your own business that lets you "work from home" or even retire. Personally, I married well and have not worked in 20 some years.

Where was it proven? Can you link to the report or documentation? Thanks!

[Anonymous]

If you truly can’t do it, I wouldn’t take the job. Nothing is ever guaranteed as we have seen. They could say yes and then change their mind and you will not have timely or meaningful recourse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:RTO is relaxed if you need to telework in order to do your prayers 5x a day. Not so much if you have medical disability.

You’re not kidding! Someone just got approved for this in my agency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I personally cannot wait for school to start in 2 weeks and you all to be back at the office. Run errands is so annoying with all the extra people home during the summer break.

Uh, where have you been? We are all back now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s hard OP. RTO for me meant a 90 minutes each way commute to a place I’d never worked before and turned my family’s life upside down.

It is very, very tough. While on one hand, yes I am physically able to get to the office and “work” each day, it is destroying my productivity and physical and mental health, affecting my relationships with my kids and family, and just making life absolutely miserable. But the people in charge now do not care about those things. They want us to be miserable and quit. Many of us are stuck between a rock and a hard place. My kids are teens; it would be devastating for them to have to pick up and move to a new area, and near impossible to find a good enough paying other job in this market.

So I do like many women have for thousands of years: put up with it, put my own physical and mental needs behind those of others, and just hope it will get better before I drop dead.

I’m also not sure it is worth it to stay in the fed workforce just because of the pension.
If I could, I would quit, move far away to lower COL area, and just start over in a new job, but that would really hurt my kids.

You think it doesn't impact men too? I don't get why women make it just about women.

Ok, so this is a parenting forum, and I am a mother. RTO impacts mothers especially. Remote work (zero commute) was the first time I ever had enough time and energy to give 100% at work and also be 100% of the mother I wanted to be and also had time to take care of myself. And I experienced much less anxiety while WFH and was able to really advance in my career, for the first time in my life.

I know there are exceptions but I am not seeing a lot of fathers who are as emotionally as devastated as mothers who had to RTO. I don’t even have little kids. I can’t imagine what it’s like being a parent of an infant with a 3 hour commute.

Remember this is not simply a return to the way things were before.

You hire help. It’s called childcare. Or, you live closer to your job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nope time for you lazy feds to get back to work.

This is why you don’t want boomers in charge, literally going backwards. They can’t fathom people working remotely.

Once they all retire, move on, as long as we don’t keep electing the elderly, things will go back to normal, common sense wins out typically.

It was proven you all weren't "working" from home. Sorry you need a baby sitter. Maybe if you dislike your job so much look for a new one or start your own business that lets you "work from home" or even retire. Personally, I married well and have not worked in 20 some years.

And you’re spending your time looking down on others on a Jobs and Careers message board. So aspirational.

[Anonymous]

These threads are so absurd. One person was asking a genuine question and the hall monitors who don’t even have jobs come out in full force.

You all realize that people who don’t want to work aren’t going to do it whether at home or in the office?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These threads are so absurd. One person was asking a genuine question and the hall monitors who don’t even have jobs come out in full force.

You all realize that people who don’t want to work aren’t going to do it whether at home or in the office?

It’s easier to “not work” in the office. At home we have to be active on Teams. In the office as long as we’re there, no one questions what we’re doing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These threads are so absurd. One person was asking a genuine question and the hall monitors who don’t even have jobs come out in full force.

You all realize that people who don’t want to work aren’t going to do it whether at home or in the office?

It’s easier to “not work” in the office. At home we have to be active on Teams. In the office as long as we’re there, no one questions what we’re doing.

This is true. I'm deeply of the opinion now that the people who really want to be at the office (and want everyone there with them) are just people for face time. Usually men.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These threads are so absurd. One person was asking a genuine question and the hall monitors who don’t even have jobs come out in full force.

You all realize that people who don’t want to work aren’t going to do it whether at home or in the office?

It’s easier to “not work” in the office. At home we have to be active on Teams. In the office as long as we’re there, no one questions what we’re doing.

This. It’s way easier in some ways going into the office. All I have to do is physically show up. It’s brought back memories of not really doing much for weeks or months. Back in the day all that mattered was being there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In Manhattan NYC pretty much everyone commutes one hour 15 minute one way every day from suburbs and do it for 30-40 years. It is not a big deal.

Yes I’ve done it but now have physical and family circumstances where that will not work.

- OP

Then I guess you are SOL.

[Anonymous]

TW will return when smart people get back power, the same people who made it a thing back in 2010 because it was logical. It was taken away for punishment which was politically motivated, shocker to some I know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TW will return when smart people get back power, the same people who made it a thing back in 2010 because it was logical. It was taken away for punishment which was politically motivated, shocker to some I know.

They also want people to quit. My guess is it comes back in some form once they reduce headcount to whatever arbitrary number is in their heads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I personally cannot wait for school to start in 2 weeks and you all to be back at the office. Run errands is so annoying with all the extra people home during the summer break.

I’ve got news for you. The masses of newly unemployed people will be running errands with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These threads are so absurd. One person was asking a genuine question and the hall monitors who don’t even have jobs come out in full force.

You all realize that people who don’t want to work aren’t going to do it whether at home or in the office?

It’s easier to “not work” in the office. At home we have to be active on Teams. In the office as long as we’re there, no one questions what we’re doing.

+1000.