ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Does any of this even matter with December tryouts starting in California so soon?

4 months.....


I’m not sure what leagues do this? Northern California tryouts are in May.
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Anonymous wrote:So IF GA is going to switch, announcement before the fall season or before spring?


September seems like a good time to publicly announce if they are changing.
Will GA bring back its late developer clause basically biobanding for 25/26?
Let GA teams get a head start or keep BY but help clubs keep their Aug to Dec players.

GA never had a "late developer clause". Before last season GA had roughly the same rule as ECNL for trapped players. Allowing then to play down a level when they were in 8th grade and the rest of the team was playing High School soccer. GA removed the rule because everyone ignored it.

Please dont spread wildly untrue nonsense.


You’re incorrect last year was the first time it was taken out of the rules.
They used to allow smaller born players to compete an age group down.
Only for U13-15.

They 100% had a late developer rule from 2020-2024

You are correct...

"Late Developer: Club requests parameters and metric datainformation from the league to submit. Approval/Denial will comefrom the league ofice. Requests restricted to U13 & U14 AgeGroups."

Ive just never seen this used before. Most clubs would just find a different player and put the smaller player in a lesser league until they got better.


I think they got rid of it because directors and the leagues hated extra work. Soccer people hate anything that involves helping kids if it means extra work for no additional money.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So IF GA is going to switch, announcement before the fall season or before spring?


September seems like a good time to publicly announce if they are changing.
Will GA bring back its late developer clause basically biobanding for 25/26?
Let GA teams get a head start or keep BY but help clubs keep their Aug to Dec players.

GA never had a "late developer clause". Before last season GA had roughly the same rule as ECNL for trapped players. Allowing then to play down a level when they were in 8th grade and the rest of the team was playing High School soccer. GA removed the rule because everyone ignored it.

Please dont spread wildly untrue nonsense.


You’re incorrect last year was the first time it was taken out of the rules.
They used to allow smaller born players to compete an age group down.
Only for U13-15.

They 100% had a late developer rule from 2020-2024

You are correct...

"Late Developer: Club requests parameters and metric datainformation from the league to submit. Approval/Denial will comefrom the league ofice. Requests restricted to U13 & U14 AgeGroups."

Ive just never seen this used before. Most clubs would just find a different player and put the smaller player in a lesser league until they got better.


I think they got rid of it because directors and the leagues hated extra work. Soccer people hate anything that involves helping kids if it means extra work for no additional money.

Biobanding works with boys when theres a smaller player with skills and big/tall parents. Its fairly obvious that once they hit puberty they're going to get bigger. Puberty with girls is more gradual theres not going to be a huge change in physical attributes.

Just doesn't make as much sense for girls.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So IF GA is going to switch, announcement before the fall season or before spring?


September seems like a good time to publicly announce if they are changing.
Will GA bring back its late developer clause basically biobanding for 25/26?
Let GA teams get a head start or keep BY but help clubs keep their Aug to Dec players.

GA never had a "late developer clause". Before last season GA had roughly the same rule as ECNL for trapped players. Allowing then to play down a level when they were in 8th grade and the rest of the team was playing High School soccer. GA removed the rule because everyone ignored it.

Please dont spread wildly untrue nonsense.


You’re incorrect last year was the first time it was taken out of the rules.
They used to allow smaller born players to compete an age group down.
Only for U13-15.

They 100% had a late developer rule from 2020-2024

You are correct...

"Late Developer: Club requests parameters and metric datainformation from the league to submit. Approval/Denial will comefrom the league ofice. Requests restricted to U13 & U14 AgeGroups."

Ive just never seen this used before. Most clubs would just find a different player and put the smaller player in a lesser league until they got better.


I think they got rid of it because directors and the leagues hated extra work. Soccer people hate anything that involves helping kids if it means extra work for no additional money.

Biobanding works with boys when theres a smaller player with skills and big/tall parents. Its fairly obvious that once they hit puberty they're going to get bigger. Puberty with girls is more gradual theres not going to be a huge change in physical attributes.

Just doesn't make as much sense for girls.


So because a girl is really small now they shouldn’t play against competition closer to their same size? But if a boy is small he should because only boys hit puberty later on?

I think that’s a dumb argument. My kids isn’t small so wouldn’t qualify but we have a girl who’s tiny could probably play 2 years down and still be regular sized. She gets beat up playing girls who have gone through puberty already.

I think girls just don’t want to play younger players they want to play with their teammates. Usually boys don’t care what team they are in boys will just play.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What an accomplishment! Proud of everyone for their efforts in getting the first thread locked down.

For official counting purposes, the total pages from the old thread (which stopped at 1181, i believe) will be added to this thread.

We should get to 2000 in no time just by discussing the fact the first thread was locked.



I didn’t even know they could lock a thread…WTF was that?!
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Anonymous wrote:Does any of this even matter with December tryouts starting in California so soon?

4 months.....


I’m not sure what leagues do this? Northern California tryouts are in May.

The excuse for delaying the change had to do with California holding tryouts in December.... fun times
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What an accomplishment! Proud of everyone for their efforts in getting the first thread locked down.

For official counting purposes, the total pages from the old thread (which stopped at 1181, i believe) will be added to this thread.

We should get to 2000 in no time just by discussing the fact the first thread was locked.



I didn’t even know they could lock a thread…WTF was that?!


This is what the site owner said: "This thread has gotten so long that reading it puts a huge load on the server. Therefore, I am going to lock it. Feel free to start a "Part 2" of the thread."
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does any of this even matter with December tryouts starting in California so soon?

4 months.....


I’m not sure what leagues do this? Northern California tryouts are in May.

The excuse for delaying the change had to do with California holding tryouts in December.... fun times


That was the public excuse the real reason was all the governing bodies had new leagues to implement and get rules in place for and figuring out new age groups on top of it overwhelmed them.

This is why it was pushed out to 26/27 and was agreed upon by everyone. Even ECNL they have new leagues also.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does any of this even matter with December tryouts starting in California so soon?

4 months.....


I’m not sure what leagues do this? Northern California tryouts are in May.

The excuse for delaying the change had to do with California holding tryouts in December.... fun times


No comp leagues hold tryouts in December other than for rec players to form new teams.
Anonymous
Ok kids.

From Jeff per a nosy nelly on website feedback:

It looks like there are roughly 25 different posters but the discussion is dominated by two, one of which has posted about 25 times and the other about 20 times.

So yes, you two need to go to marital counseling, take this offline, whatever if there are about 60 posts on this second forum and you are 50 of them
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ok kids.

From Jeff per a nosy nelly on website feedback:

It looks like there are roughly 25 different posters but the discussion is dominated by two, one of which has posted about 25 times and the other about 20 times.

So yes, you two need to go to marital counseling, take this offline, whatever if there are about 60 posts on this second forum and you are 50 of them


Are you the 20 or the 25?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ok kids.

From Jeff per a nosy nelly on website feedback:

It looks like there are roughly 25 different posters but the discussion is dominated by two, one of which has posted about 25 times and the other about 20 times.

So yes, you two need to go to marital counseling, take this offline, whatever if there are about 60 posts on this second forum and you are 50 of them


The math doesn’t add up? If 60 posts
And two people equal 45, if 15 people made one comment that’s still 17 people.
Anonymous
Maybe it was 30 people.
Anonymous
Also my neighbor brought back some kind of growth hormone drink from Asia that she gives her kids so they can bulk up during sports season. They play soccer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Also my neighbor brought back some kind of growth hormone drink from Asia that she gives her kids so they can bulk up during sports season. They play soccer.


Nice. For context, HGH is highly controlled in the US. Good family friends of ours have to give their kid HGH injections as part of the post-chemo treatment for their DD. He said it is highly controlled and hard to get ahold of because of potential abuse.

But it wouldn't surprise if both it was derived from Asia and that parents would give it to their kid, thinking its is like a vitamin.
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