Megan Markles Show did not rank in the top 350 shows on netflix

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Anonymous wrote:Man she really pushes all my buttons. I hate her so much. I grew up with a lot if family issues and it kills me what she did to the royals. I have no idea what they are like but I know she really messed up that family when she married Harry. It's unforgivable. She really took him from them. Whatever he is, it's his family and knowing his place, she willingly went into it pulling him away from them and milks the relationship to suit her desires. There's a special place in hell for her. I think Harry's a huge disappointment and got played but you can't do better unless you know better. I place the blame on her entirely and really despise her for the pain she inflicts by simply existing. I don't really have such strong emotions about public figures except for her.

This is a you problem. I grew up with a lot of family issues too and have no strong feelings about her one way or another. Harry's family was obviously messed up before Meghan -- parents divorced, mom died when he was young, intense public scrutiny, harry had a public rep as a partier and screw up, his book revealed a lot of longstanding resentments and papered over conflict with his brother, dad, and stepmom. The idea that Meghan, regardless of what you think of her, is the source of strife in that family is nuts. She didn't ruin anything. This is just what they are like.

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Anonymous wrote:For all the clapback posters - Hi Sugars!

Hi hater! Are you one of the racists, misogynists, or just another embarrassing sycophant who excuses all royal bad behavior?

Signed, not a sugar. I don’t particularly care about Meghan, haven’t seen the Oprah interview or the documentary. I’m not on X or TikTok and don’t follow any royal accounts on Instagram, Threads, Bluesky or any other social media. I have read Spare though. Basically all I do is read celebeatchy.com for celebrity gossip including the royals, but it’s been an eye-opener. The obsessive and unearned hatred from the tabloids and you lot is disgusting to me.

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Anonymous wrote:There are reports of his team and his dad's team meeting to negotiate seeing each other again. However, my first thought was that they were divorcing and this was part of the process. Probably a lot to untangle. I doubt he could have married without a pre-nup. He was a part of the royal family then and under their scrutiny as well as advisement at the time. I could see them divorcing and him returning home. Complete speculation on my part.

I think they were negotiating a visit since Charles won’t live forever. And perhaps they were negotiating a plan for what the future will look like when Charles dies.

Or maybe Harry asked for money or a way back in.

I don’t think they’re divorcing. Her future depends on him.

If Charles wants to safeguard the monarchy, he knows he must mend fences between Will and Harry…and he needs to make sure things are copacetic before he dies. He’s trying to avoid a $hit$how that could end the monarchy. Will can’t be successful if everyone thinks he’s a jerk who won’t let Harry back in.

Nope. Nyet. In your wildest dreams. No one in the UK has any affection for Harry and don’t want him back. Harry has no power and no hold over his brother or the general public.

I have cousins in Britain and you’re straight-up wrong about public opinion. Sure, there are some like you who get their opinions from the Daily Mail and its comments section, but many Brits can see through the tabloid spin and garbage.

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I honestly feel bad for him. It seems like he grew up in the shadow of his brother and the tragedy of his parent's marriage/mother's death, and then flirted with the idea of establishing an independent identity for himself (military, etc.), but never quite cemented it. Now he's entirely defined by his marriage, his personal grievances (however legitimate they may be), and this never-ending family feud, rather than any personal accomplishments or permanent contributions. He's 40 with 2 kids and does what every day? Bums around Montecito? This guy's going to be middle-aged in the blink of an eye, disillusioned by life, and wonder where it all went. If he was some wealthy nobody it seems like it'd be lovely to just be rich, married, raise two kids, and not work. But the press will hound this guy and craft some narrative forever.

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Anonymous wrote:Man she really pushes all my buttons. I hate her so much. I grew up with a lot if family issues and it kills me what she did to the royals. I have no idea what they are like but I know she really messed up that family when she married Harry. It's unforgivable. She really took him from them. Whatever he is, it's his family and knowing his place, she willingly went into it pulling him away from them and milks the relationship to suit her desires. There's a special place in hell for her. I think Harry's a huge disappointment and got played but you can't do better unless you know better. I place the blame on her entirely and really despise her for the pain she inflicts by simply existing. I don't really have such strong emotions about public figures except for her.

This is a you problem. I grew up with a lot of family issues too and have no strong feelings about her one way or another. Harry's family was obviously messed up before Meghan -- parents divorced, mom died when he was young, intense public scrutiny, harry had a public rep as a partier and screw up, his book revealed a lot of longstanding resentments and papered over conflict with his brother, dad, and stepmom. The idea that Meghan, regardless of what you think of her, is the source of strife in that family is nuts. She didn't ruin anything. This is just what they are like.

Agree that blaming Meghan for longstanding royal family problems is just misogynistic. Harry wrote in Spare that he and William were never close despite the carefully curated public image, in fact William told Eton classmates he didn’t know Harry for the purposes of socializing. Kate’s people briefed the tabloids that Meghan made Kate cry over bridesmaids dresses, when in fact it was the other way around. Someone in the palaces who was intent on rehabilitating their own image—Camilla? William?—kept leaking pictures of Harry’s partying days but not William’s. No wonder Harry had been talking about leaving for years, long before Meghan came on the scene.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t watch WLM, but what I found interesting about those articles today is that Harry’s Polo series that came out a few months earlier than hers was ranked 3000-something with only 500k views. While her ratings weren’t very good, his were a complete flop. That should have been the headline IMO.

Super niche, no one expected that to be a big commercial success.

I think the benchmarks to look at would be in comparison to other lifestyle and cooking shows. And “commercial success” should be looked at more broadly. I have no idea what arrangements Netflix might make for product placement, but if specific products used on the show get significant bumps in sales, that might benefit Netflix as well. I’m guessing that this type of show is relatively inexpensive to produce, which might mean a relatively high return on a relatively low investment.

That was my thought. I lot of Netflix's top shows are very expensive to produce -- shows like Bridgerton or Department Q where you have large cats, high end production, multiple locations shoots, plus you're paying the creator often large sums just to develop it. Meghan's show came under their existing contract, has a single location and film crew, a simple script, no special effects or expensive costuming, and many if the guests were from other Netflix properties and served as cross promotion.

I doubt Netflix is falling all over themselves with what a smash hit it is (it's not) but they probably view it as a net positive that doesn't require a lot of resources, plus Meghan's notoriety means it gets tons of news coverage and a decent number of people will click on it out if curiosity (or just to hate watch). For a streamer with a huge stable of diverse shows, that sounds like a win.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly feel bad for him. It seems like he grew up in the shadow of his brother and the tragedy of his parent's marriage/mother's death, and then flirted with the idea of establishing an independent identity for himself (military, etc.), but never quite cemented it. Now he's entirely defined by his marriage, his personal grievances (however legitimate they may be), and this never-ending family feud, rather than any personal accomplishments or permanent contributions. He's 40 with 2 kids and does what every day? Bums around Montecito? This guy's going to be middle-aged in the blink of an eye, disillusioned by life, and wonder where it all went. If he was some wealthy nobody it seems like it'd be lovely to just be rich, married, raise two kids, and not work. But the press will hound this guy and craft some narrative forever.

That’s interesting, because there’s also talk that Harry has the life William wants, and that some of William’s spite, even when Harry was still in Britain, was jealousy. William has said openly that he doesn’t want to be king. Who knows where the truth about all this lies….

Harry has some great projects, including the Invictus games for wounded warriors, Travelyst to promote sustainable travel (he was keynote speaker at their Singapore event a month or two ago), WellChild (he’s going to London in September for that), Archewell trust, and Halo for land mines (Harry went to Angola just last week for Halo). This isn’t all of it but it’s all I know. Granted it may not equal a 9-5 job, but there must be some behind-the-scenes work too. It does stand up well against the Wales’ workload, if that’s the yardstick.

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Anonymous wrote:There are reports of his team and his dad's team meeting to negotiate seeing each other again. However, my first thought was that they were divorcing and this was part of the process. Probably a lot to untangle. I doubt he could have married without a pre-nup. He was a part of the royal family then and under their scrutiny as well as advisement at the time. I could see them divorcing and him returning home. Complete speculation on my part.

I think they were negotiating a visit since Charles won’t live forever. And perhaps they were negotiating a plan for what the future will look like when Charles dies.

Or maybe Harry asked for money or a way back in.

I don’t think they’re divorcing. Her future depends on him.

If Charles wants to safeguard the monarchy, he knows he must mend fences between Will and Harry…and he needs to make sure things are copacetic before he dies. He’s trying to avoid a $hit$how that could end the monarchy. Will can’t be successful if everyone thinks he’s a jerk who won’t let Harry back in.

Nope. Nyet. In your wildest dreams. No one in the UK has any affection for Harry and don’t want him back. Harry has no power and no hold over his brother or the general public.

I have cousins in Britain and you’re straight-up wrong about public opinion. Sure, there are some like you who get their opinions from the Daily Mail and its comments section, but many Brits can see through the tabloid spin and garbage.

Whatever. I’m anti-royalist and think monarchies should end. However, these strange days, with strongmen and fascism on the rise, King Chazz has had an unusual role where his soft power has some meaning in solidifying alliances with Canada and France, and showing some defiance to what’s happening here and trending in Europe. It actually matters and has actual resonance, and polling in the UK shows strong support as of today for the monarch and for the heir.

If you and your daft cousins object because everyone was like sooo cruel to Harry and Meghan because of unmitigated hatred for pube-like ginger hair and elegant biracial beauty, well, okay. You all go on with your special and astute selves.

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Anonymous wrote:Man she really pushes all my buttons. I hate her so much. I grew up with a lot if family issues and it kills me what she did to the royals. I have no idea what they are like but I know she really messed up that family when she married Harry. It's unforgivable. She really took him from them. Whatever he is, it's his family and knowing his place, she willingly went into it pulling him away from them and milks the relationship to suit her desires. There's a special place in hell for her. I think Harry's a huge disappointment and got played but you can't do better unless you know better. I place the blame on her entirely and really despise her for the pain she inflicts by simply existing. I don't really have such strong emotions about public figures except for her.

This is a you problem. I grew up with a lot of family issues too and have no strong feelings about her one way or another. Harry's family was obviously messed up before Meghan -- parents divorced, mom died when he was young, intense public scrutiny, harry had a public rep as a partier and screw up, his book revealed a lot of longstanding resentments and papered over conflict with his brother, dad, and stepmom. The idea that Meghan, regardless of what you think of her, is the source of strife in that family is nuts. She didn't ruin anything. This is just what they are like.

Agree that blaming Meghan for longstanding royal family problems is just misogynistic. Harry wrote in Spare that he and William were never close despite the carefully curated public image, in fact William told Eton classmates he didn’t know Harry for the purposes of socializing. Kate’s people briefed the tabloids that Meghan made Kate cry over bridesmaids dresses, when in fact it was the other way around. Someone in the palaces who was intent on rehabilitating their own image—Camilla? William?—kept leaking pictures of Harry’s partying days but not William’s. No wonder Harry had been talking about leaving for years, long before Meghan came on the scene.

We’re being fed many different narratives and I don’t believe everything in Spare and definitely don’t believe everything Meghan says. There were many interviews over the years with Harry and Will talking about their closeness. I remember one where they prank called the Queen and it was obvious they had lots of fun together and could read each other’s thoughts. There are many photos and videos of Harry and Kate where they are exchanging whispers and have obvious affection. Harry even called her the sister he never had. I believe Harry was close to Will and Kate until Meghan entered the picture.

As to who made whom cry about the bridesmaids dresses, Meghan and Harry know the Palace will never refute any story. I’d bet they both cried. I also suspect there are many, many Meghan and Harry stories that weren’t leaked and/or that the mainstream media didn’t run with. There are widely circulated rumors of Harry beating up prostitutes in Afghanistan. There was a story about Meghan taking photos of the Wales kids when she first met them and several others that were widely circulated around the gossip columns but likely withheld from the tabloids by the palace. In other words, they have protected them as much as they’ve thrown them under the bus.

We’ll never know the true stories, but you can be sure Harry and Meghan aren’t telling us the true, whole facts either. They too are shaping the narrative in the best possible light for themselves.

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Who even cares who cried and why? I have never understood this uproar. You have a nervous bride to be and a mom who recently gave birth and had 2 other kids. There is going to be some crying!

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Anonymous wrote:Who even cares who cried and why? I have never understood this uproar. You have a nervous bride to be and a mom who recently gave birth and had 2 other kids. There is going to be some crying!

I agree with this. I also just think a lot of the conflict between Meghan and the rest of the family is a function of them being a very insular family and her being both an outsider and an older bride. I honestly don't really even view it as anyone's fault in particular. I imagine the BRF is pretty awful to marry into for a wide variety of reasons and I have some empathy for Meghan in dealing with that even if obviously she chose it for herself. I can also see that she likely did some tone deaf things early on and that some of her behavior comes across to them as strident and entitled because she's an American actress who was an older bride and the BRF is just not set up for someone like that, especially not if you are marrying the king's/crown prince's son (there is more leeway for people further down the line or further removed from the monarch).

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Anonymous wrote:Man she really pushes all my buttons. I hate her so much. I grew up with a lot if family issues and it kills me what she did to the royals. I have no idea what they are like but I know she really messed up that family when she married Harry. It's unforgivable. She really took him from them. Whatever he is, it's his family and knowing his place, she willingly went into it pulling him away from them and milks the relationship to suit her desires. There's a special place in hell for her. I think Harry's a huge disappointment and got played but you can't do better unless you know better. I place the blame on her entirely and really despise her for the pain she inflicts by simply existing. I don't really have such strong emotions about public figures except for her.

This is a you problem. I grew up with a lot of family issues too and have no strong feelings about her one way or another. Harry's family was obviously messed up before Meghan -- parents divorced, mom died when he was young, intense public scrutiny, harry had a public rep as a partier and screw up, his book revealed a lot of longstanding resentments and papered over conflict with his brother, dad, and stepmom. The idea that Meghan, regardless of what you think of her, is the source of strife in that family is nuts. She didn't ruin anything. This is just what they are like.

Harry and Mrghan are middle aged people, not wronged teenagers or young adults.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly feel bad for him. It seems like he grew up in the shadow of his brother and the tragedy of his parent's marriage/mother's death, and then flirted with the idea of establishing an independent identity for himself (military, etc.), but never quite cemented it. Now he's entirely defined by his marriage, his personal grievances (however legitimate they may be), and this never-ending family feud, rather than any personal accomplishments or permanent contributions. He's 40 with 2 kids and does what every day? Bums around Montecito? This guy's going to be middle-aged in the blink of an eye, disillusioned by life, and wonder where it all went. If he was some wealthy nobody it seems like it'd be lovely to just be rich, married, raise two kids, and not work. But the press will hound this guy and craft some narrative forever.

He is middle aged.

At what point does he become a grown up and move on with his life? His and Meghan's 40s are in full swing. Their 50s? After they qualify for senior citizen discounts?

They moved away to America supposedly to sever ties with the royal family. At what point do they stop trying to monetize the royal family and start earning their own way,?