Why are some people here downplaying AI's potential impact on job market?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think people can accurately predict how these things will work out. History shows us that.

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The AI I've seen so far is quite underwhelming. It's a helpful tool for me in my job but since it doesn't actually "think," I am not worried about my job. It is helpful for more tedious tasks. It is like an intern (ok maybe better than an intern) that can do helpful things under close supervision.

We'll see how things shake out in the next few years but yeah I'm just not worried about being able to finish out my career over the next couple of decades (or hopefully less). I am concerned about helping guide my DC into a career path that will be sustainable but DC is quite young at this point.

Yes.

I was here (we all were) when Musk was touting completely autonomous AI cars as coming super soon! within a year! -- and how long has that been going on? What about his virtual reality headsets? And people (or a person) has been posting about AI taking over people's jobs for years now with great glee here. Okay. Sure. THAT hasn't happened yet, although I guess it may or may not in the next year or two.

But it the point just to try to poke people into being panicked about it, without any real action to take? Why? I'm sure as heck not going to dance around all scared for you.

Get back to me when you have a specific action to do about it. Until the, I still have work piling up, and I don't have time for you.

I’m still waiting for all of the truck drivers to lose their jobs to self-driving trucks that we were told a decade ago was a sure thing.

AI is so ill defined it's hard to really have a meaningful conversation about what we're even talking about. But they aren't going to replace humans any time soon -- they just don't have the ability to actually think for themselves. They're really just a tool that can very useful but only in the hands of a person who knows how to check them for accuracy.

"Through extensive experimentation across diverse puzzles, we show that frontier LRMs face a complete accuracy collapse beyond certain complexities."

https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/illusion-of-thinking

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a low wage worker and so is everyone else around me. We don't think AI is going to replace us any times soon.
Several of my white collar customers have come to me for a job lately. They seem super delicate and just not cut out for the physically demanding job. I do know that they have made more money than I have the last 20-25 years. Not sure where their money is to support them in the transition.
I invested my lousy low wage as I lived below my means. I don't need to work for money anymore. Working enough to contribute to Roth.
I can easily help 10 people get started in the industry without any experience as I'm getting ready to leave, but the job seems the be beneath them.

Every job has competencies, you get to keep your job bc you are good enough. White collar professionals don’t become magically good at your job after losing their white collar job.

DP I am a white collar worker and would absolutely describe myself as "delicate" and not cut out for a physically demanding job. I don't take that as an insult, it's just true. It's not that I think I am too good for those jobs - I just genuinely think I would be terrible at them at least for a while, and it would be a really hard adjustment.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in IT at a well-known law firm, and the law firm is going into AI 100%. It launched a Proof of Concept last year using AI to reduce the number of junior lawyers in the firm. The POC went so well that the firm recently laid off over 50% of the junior lawyers on staff. The speed of AI in the next two years will be much more damaging than people think. All of us should be worried.

So there won't be enough mid or senior level lawyers to fix things when it really messes up right?

This can't be true. The legal news would be exploding. Remember "lathaming"?

Why people lie is beyond me. It's either not true or it's a no name firm

If anything, we're seeing reported news of examples of lawyers using AI and getting burned when their work is revealed as garbage.

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/10/nx-s1-5463512/ai-courts-lawyers-mypillow-fines ("A federal judge ordered two attorneys representing MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell in a Colorado defamation case to pay $3,000 each after they used artificial intelligence to prepare a court filing filled with a host of mistakes and citations of cases that didn't exist.")

https://futurism.com/law-firms-fine-ai-slop-court ("the court filing in question was a brief for a civil lawsuit against the insurance giant State Farm. After its submission, a review of the brief found that it contained 'bogus AI-generated research' that led to the inclusion of 'numerous false, inaccurate, and misleading legal citations and quotations,' as judge Michael Wilner wrote in a scathing ruling . . . A lawyer at one of the firms involved with the ten-page brief, the Ellis George group, used Google's Gemini and a few other law-specific AI tools to draft an initial outline. That outline included many errors, but was passed along to the next law firm, K&L Gates, without any corrections. Incredibly, the second firm also failed to notice and correct the fabrications.").

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in IT at a well-known law firm, and the law firm is going into AI 100%. It launched a Proof of Concept last year using AI to reduce the number of junior lawyers in the firm. The POC went so well that the firm recently laid off over 50% of the junior lawyers on staff. The speed of AI in the next two years will be much more damaging than people think. All of us should be worried.

So there won't be enough mid or senior level lawyers to fix things when it really messes up right?

This can't be true. The legal news would be exploding. Remember "lathaming"?

Why people lie is beyond me. It's either not true or it's a no name firm

If anything, we're seeing reported news of examples of lawyers using AI and getting burned when their work is revealed as garbage.

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/10/nx-s1-5463512/ai-courts-lawyers-mypillow-fines ("A federal judge ordered two attorneys representing MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell in a Colorado defamation case to pay $3,000 each after they used artificial intelligence to prepare a court filing filled with a host of mistakes and citations of cases that didn't exist.")

https://futurism.com/law-firms-fine-ai-slop-court ("the court filing in question was a brief for a civil lawsuit against the insurance giant State Farm. After its submission, a review of the brief found that it contained 'bogus AI-generated research' that led to the inclusion of 'numerous false, inaccurate, and misleading legal citations and quotations,' as judge Michael Wilner wrote in a scathing ruling . . . A lawyer at one of the firms involved with the ten-page brief, the Ellis George group, used Google's Gemini and a few other law-specific AI tools to draft an initial outline. That outline included many errors, but was passed along to the next law firm, K&L Gates, without any corrections. Incredibly, the second firm also failed to notice and correct the fabrications.").

+1 I find AI to be so, so bad. If you care about accuracy, it really is no better than a random blog. Some of my colleagues use it and they do check everything but I honestly don't see the point.

[Anonymous]

AI with grok 4 has entered a new level that is smarter and more mentally capable than the entire human race. It's one step away from terrifying ability.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in IT at a well-known law firm, and the law firm is going into AI 100%. It launched a Proof of Concept last year using AI to reduce the number of junior lawyers in the firm. The POC went so well that the firm recently laid off over 50% of the junior lawyers on staff. The speed of AI in the next two years will be much more damaging than people think. All of us should be worried.

So there won't be enough mid or senior level lawyers to fix things when it really messes up right?

This can't be true. The legal news would be exploding. Remember "lathaming"?

Why people lie is beyond me. It's either not true or it's a no name firm

If anything, we're seeing reported news of examples of lawyers using AI and getting burned when their work is revealed as garbage.

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/10/nx-s1-5463512/ai-courts-lawyers-mypillow-fines ("A federal judge ordered two attorneys representing MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell in a Colorado defamation case to pay $3,000 each after they used artificial intelligence to prepare a court filing filled with a host of mistakes and citations of cases that didn't exist.")

https://futurism.com/law-firms-fine-ai-slop-court ("the court filing in question was a brief for a civil lawsuit against the insurance giant State Farm. After its submission, a review of the brief found that it contained 'bogus AI-generated research' that led to the inclusion of 'numerous false, inaccurate, and misleading legal citations and quotations,' as judge Michael Wilner wrote in a scathing ruling . . . A lawyer at one of the firms involved with the ten-page brief, the Ellis George group, used Google's Gemini and a few other law-specific AI tools to draft an initial outline. That outline included many errors, but was passed along to the next law firm, K&L Gates, without any corrections. Incredibly, the second firm also failed to notice and correct the fabrications.").

+1 I find AI to be so, so bad. If you care about accuracy, it really is no better than a random blog. Some of my colleagues use it and they do check everything but I honestly don't see the point.

Depends on the data sources, use case and prompting. If you are uploading only your company info and having the model stay with in that space it is highly accurate and beneficial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:AI with grok 4 has entered a new level that is smarter and more mentally capable than the entire human race. It's one step away from terrifying ability.

It is almost perfect in every grad school test in every subject without ever seeing the questions before.

Law, languages, physics, engineering, math, chemistry, medical school

All of it right now and improving at greater speeds than any human

[Anonymous]

The whole AI thing just exposes what is the real problem with our current level of capitalism. Businesses are constantly designing themselves around money, not thinking about people.

If AI takes all the low level jobs, where will the mid/upper level employees come from.

If AI replaces writing, all of it will be stilted and not sound like it is coming from a person. People HATE dealing with calls and “chats” that are run by AI. Eventually, people will hate your company (see Verizon).

If no one has money because no one has a job because AI takes them over, we are in for trouble.

America in particular seems dumb when it comes to planning for humanity these days. It is going to take some dark days before this turns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:AI with grok 4 has entered a new level that is smarter and more mentally capable than the entire human race. It's one step away from terrifying ability.

Right, thanks to all the intelligent government workers whose intellect it stole. It already is terrifying, but it isn’t a person and people matter.

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Anonymous wrote:AI with grok 4 has entered a new level that is smarter and more mentally capable than the entire human race. It's one step away from terrifying ability.

Right, thanks to all the intelligent government workers whose intellect it stole. It already is terrifying, but it isn’t a person and people matter.

It also seems to be Nazi

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:AI with grok 4 has entered a new level that is smarter and more mentally capable than the entire human race. It's one step away from terrifying ability.

It is almost perfect in every grad school test in every subject without ever seeing the questions before.

Law, languages, physics, engineering, math, chemistry, medical school

All of it right now and improving at greater speeds than any human

lol imagine wasting tokens to troll DCUM

[Anonymous]

Nobody knows how useful AI will be

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are some people here downplaying AI' potential impact on the job market. Our capital owners have shown time and time again that they want to maximize their earnings.

GS is testing a fully automated software engineer. Of course he won't be ready for prime time, but how about in 2 years?

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/11/goldman-sachs-autonomous-coder-pilot-marks-major-ai-milestone.html

This remind me of last fall when some people were mocking DOGE saying no job cut will be happen etc

Too busy trying to push for more and more h1bs

No need for automation.

The visa-worker inflow has been growing since 1990, and it has helped to keep tech worker waves flat since 2009. The inflow has also allowed C-suite executives to suppress the workplace clout of professionals, maximize share prices at the cost of other priorities, and suppress the spinoff of rival companies by ambitious U.S. graduates.

The investor-owned Fortune 500 companies, and their pyramids of subcontractors, now employ roughly 1.5 million foreign contract workers in a wide variety of jobs needed by many underemployed and indebted U.S. technology graduates and their families.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are some people here downplaying AI' potential impact on the job market. Our capital owners have shown time and time again that they want to maximize their earnings.

GS is testing a fully automated software engineer. Of course he won't be ready for prime time, but how about in 2 years?

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/11/goldman-sachs-autonomous-coder-pilot-marks-major-ai-milestone.html

This remind me of last fall when some people were mocking DOGE saying no job cut will be happen etc

Too busy trying to push for more and more h1bs

No need for automation.

The visa-worker inflow has been growing since 1990, and it has helped to keep tech worker waves flat since 2009. The inflow has also allowed C-suite executives to suppress the workplace clout of professionals, maximize share prices at the cost of other priorities, and suppress the spinoff of rival companies by ambitious U.S. graduates.

The investor-owned Fortune 500 companies, and their pyramids of subcontractors, now employ roughly 1.5 million foreign contract workers in a wide variety of jobs needed by many underemployed and indebted U.S. technology graduates and their families.

Thank Musk, and Trump. Musk wants more AI and more visas. And Trump says, "ok" because Musk basically bought Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are some people here downplaying AI' potential impact on the job market. Our capital owners have shown time and time again that they want to maximize their earnings.

GS is testing a fully automated software engineer. Of course he won't be ready for prime time, but how about in 2 years?

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/11/goldman-sachs-autonomous-coder-pilot-marks-major-ai-milestone.html

This remind me of last fall when some people were mocking DOGE saying no job cut will be happen etc

Too busy trying to push for more and more h1bs

No need for automation.

The visa-worker inflow has been growing since 1990, and it has helped to keep tech worker waves flat since 2009. The inflow has also allowed C-suite executives to suppress the workplace clout of professionals, maximize share prices at the cost of other priorities, and suppress the spinoff of rival companies by ambitious U.S. graduates.

The investor-owned Fortune 500 companies, and their pyramids of subcontractors, now employ roughly 1.5 million foreign contract workers in a wide variety of jobs needed by many underemployed and indebted U.S. technology graduates and their families.

Thank Musk, and Trump. Musk wants more AI and more visas. And Trump says, "ok" because Musk basically bought Trump.

We know republicans are evil. No argument.

But why are the Democrats, The party of educated urban elites also pushing for more h1bs. Why don’t democrats work to repeal h1b and opt US citizen replacement programs ?

Why???

Name one democrat supporting US workers first and working to repeal h1b ??

Meanwhile while Democrats were in power …

1.Biden refuses to mandate e-verify. there is no reason to require corporations to hire US workers. -https://www.governing.com/work/e-verify-creates-loophole-for-undocumented-workers-employers.html

2.Biden helps US companies replace US workers with cheap foreign labor by expanding H1B - https://www.axios.com/2022/01/12/h1b-visa-approval-rate-tech-biden-immigration

3.Biden expanded OPT to new job categories, this helps companies replace US workers with cheap foreign indentured servants - https://www.fragomen.com/insights/united-states-white-house-announces-expansion-of-stem-opt-program-and-other-initiatives-to-attract-stem-talent.html

F1 - Legal system requires F-1 students to remain with employer for approximately 7-12 years

4.Biden proposes to create brand new W-1 visa with unlimited Green Cards, because we mythically don't have enough workers in the US, we devalued a master with H1B, and now we will devalue PhDs with W-1 visas - https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2022/01/27/house-adds-game-changing-visas-for-immigrant-startups-and-phds/?sh=500faa1810be