Why are some people here downplaying AI's potential impact on job market?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think people can accurately predict how these things will work out. History shows us that.

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The AI I've seen so far is quite underwhelming. It's a helpful tool for me in my job but since it doesn't actually "think," I am not worried about my job. It is helpful for more tedious tasks. It is like an intern (ok maybe better than an intern) that can do helpful things under close supervision.

We'll see how things shake out in the next few years but yeah I'm just not worried about being able to finish out my career over the next couple of decades (or hopefully less). I am concerned about helping guide my DC into a career path that will be sustainable but DC is quite young at this point.

Yes.

I was here (we all were) when Musk was touting completely autonomous AI cars as coming super soon! within a year! -- and how long has that been going on? What about his virtual reality headsets? And people (or a person) has been posting about AI taking over people's jobs for years now with great glee here. Okay. Sure. THAT hasn't happened yet, although I guess it may or may not in the next year or two.

But it the point just to try to poke people into being panicked about it, without any real action to take? Why? I'm sure as heck not going to dance around all scared for you.

Get back to me when you have a specific action to do about it. Until the, I still have work piling up, and I don't have time for you.

I’m still waiting for all of the truck drivers to lose their jobs to self-driving trucks that we were told a decade ago was a sure thing.

[Anonymous]

A recent study show that while engineers expected tools to speed up their coding, they actually slowed them down.

https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/breaking-news-ai-coding-may-not-be

[Anonymous]

It’s too hyped and discussed in the mainstream media to result in real change.

Reminds me of Y2K hysteria.

[Anonymous]

People who have studied economics see this as just the latest Chicken Little event.

[Anonymous]

We to a hard look at what we needed in our next few hires. Then explored how much of those tasks we could replace with ai. It was about 92%. So we aren’t replacing people we just aren’t hiring them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We to a hard look at what we needed in our next few hires. Then explored how much of those tasks we could replace with ai. It was about 92%. So we aren’t replacing people we just aren’t hiring them.

Sounds like in Office Space, when they just quit paying Milton.

Many jobs will be harder and harder to get due to A.I. taking them over.
Like others have mentioned though, until robotics improves a lot, basic real jobs will always exist like cooks, dishwashers, ditch diggers, electricians, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's human nature. First people will say it won't affect. Second if affect them they will downplay it.

I graduated with a CS degree in 2002, a long time ago. I don't wrote any code for work these days but I do some freelancing writing code when I am not very busy. I'll say this. Its much easier to write code today because we have automated toll that can actually write software than make semantic sense. AI was always around writing automating code with correct syntax but incorrect semantic. The semantic part has vastly improved.

Will this lead to mass layoffs? I honestly don't know. What I do know though is that Wall Street will always seek to minimize cost and maximize profit.

Having said we can't discount the potential disruption of AI. Reinforcement learning was always waiting for chips to catch to its potential and they have.

The issue is that we tend to compare every new technology with last technology and say things like at one point in time we had lunch card and now we shall survive etc. it's a bit different now if you look at the trend of jobs in the white collar sector in particular over the past decade. You can look at it on many different ways and draw your own conclusions. I will simply conclude by saying that depending on your industry you will certainly face steeper completion. The question then becomes where do you pivot?

I too, am an old-school programmer, worked with assembly and remember having to worry about pointers and memory management! Now it’s all magical trash collection automatically.

My point was more that they’ll be new innovations that these empowering tools allow, it won’t just be the elimination of jobs, but also the creation of a different kind of work.

Maybe we can also move to a 30 hour work week, and there’s supposed to be a demographic crunch where there are less workers which represents a certain problem, but also may dovetail with the productivity from AI

30 hr weeks? You wish. There are talks about increasing retirement age, which would force 65 year olds to keep working full time to keep healthcare coverage. There is nothing indicating any redistribution of any type of productivity wealth to improve the lives or the workers or even allow workers to make a living, instead of kicking them to the curb

[Anonymous]

I'm a low wage worker and so is everyone else around me. We don't think AI is going to replace us any times soon.
Several of my white collar customers have come to me for a job lately. They seem super delicate and just not cut out for the physically demanding job. I do know that they have made more money than I have the last 20-25 years. Not sure where their money is to support them in the transition.
I invested my lousy low wage as I lived below my means. I don't need to work for money anymore. Working enough to contribute to Roth.
I can easily help 10 people get started in the industry without any experience as I'm getting ready to leave, but the job seems the be beneath them.

[Anonymous]

The issue is not AI. The people who dismiss so they don't understand are the issue. Some people are so triggered by AI that they cannot point to a single issue that AI does well. Those people are the ones who should freak out because they lack an ability to survive and pivot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The issue is not AI. The people who dismiss so they don't understand are the issue. Some people are so triggered by AI that they cannot point to a single issue that AI does well. Those people are the ones who should freak out because they lack an ability to survive and pivot.

So far on DCUM we've got...killing enemy Russian soldiers with drones, reviewing 3D molecular chemistry possibilities, processing insurance claims, entry-level legal work, outlining plots for novels that may never get written, cheating on term papers, writing college app essays, and doing performance reviews.

Read this blogger that I found out about from DCUM.

https://www.wheresyoured.at/make-fun-of-them/

[Anonymous]

Snyk a cybersecurity firm laid off 10 percent of company in last few weeks whole profitable with no plans on replacing workers. All the job going forward will be done via AI.

They targeted mid level managers who monitor employees who work for them. They automated tracking employees productivity so no need for middle man to supervise. Just workers and people in charge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a low wage worker and so is everyone else around me. We don't think AI is going to replace us any times soon.
Several of my white collar customers have come to me for a job lately. They seem super delicate and just not cut out for the physically demanding job. I do know that they have made more money than I have the last 20-25 years. Not sure where their money is to support them in the transition.
I invested my lousy low wage as I lived below my means. I don't need to work for money anymore. Working enough to contribute to Roth.
I can easily help 10 people get started in the industry without any experience as I'm getting ready to leave, but the job seems the be beneath them.

Because I could buy an investment property or two fix them up, get them in distress sales and manage that, manage my stocks better, working on cutting expenses, see if I can get a consulting little gig. Maybe teach, join a board, be a fractional worker. Or maybe just do as neighbor did he just rented out his big home close in for $7,000 month and got a smaller $3,000 a month two bedroom nearby. Just pocketed $4,000 a month. Lot easier than minimun wage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a low wage worker and so is everyone else around me. We don't think AI is going to replace us any times soon.
Several of my white collar customers have come to me for a job lately. They seem super delicate and just not cut out for the physically demanding job. I do know that they have made more money than I have the last 20-25 years. Not sure where their money is to support them in the transition.
I invested my lousy low wage as I lived below my means. I don't need to work for money anymore. Working enough to contribute to Roth.
I can easily help 10 people get started in the industry without any experience as I'm getting ready to leave, but the job seems the be beneath them.

Every job has competencies, you get to keep your job bc you are good enough. White collar professionals don’t become magically good at your job after losing their white collar job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a low wage worker and so is everyone else around me. We don't think AI is going to replace us any times soon.
Several of my white collar customers have come to me for a job lately. They seem super delicate and just not cut out for the physically demanding job. I do know that they have made more money than I have the last 20-25 years. Not sure where their money is to support them in the transition.
I invested my lousy low wage as I lived below my means. I don't need to work for money anymore. Working enough to contribute to Roth.
I can easily help 10 people get started in the industry without any experience as I'm getting ready to leave, but the job seems the be beneath them.

Because I could buy an investment property or two fix them up, get them in distress sales and manage that, manage my stocks better, working on cutting expenses, see if I can get a consulting little gig. Maybe teach, join a board, be a fractional worker. Or maybe just do as neighbor did he just rented out his big home close in for $7,000 month and got a smaller $3,000 a month two bedroom nearby. Just pocketed $4,000 a month. Lot easier than minimun wage.

You could join a board? "Hello, I'm here to join your board of directors"-type thing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a low wage worker and so is everyone else around me. We don't think AI is going to replace us any times soon.
Several of my white collar customers have come to me for a job lately. They seem super delicate and just not cut out for the physically demanding job. I do know that they have made more money than I have the last 20-25 years. Not sure where their money is to support them in the transition.
I invested my lousy low wage as I lived below my means. I don't need to work for money anymore. Working enough to contribute to Roth.
I can easily help 10 people get started in the industry without any experience as I'm getting ready to leave, but the job seems the be beneath them.

Because I could buy an investment property or two fix them up, get them in distress sales and manage that, manage my stocks better, working on cutting expenses, see if I can get a consulting little gig. Maybe teach, join a board, be a fractional worker. Or maybe just do as neighbor did he just rented out his big home close in for $7,000 month and got a smaller $3,000 a month two bedroom nearby. Just pocketed $4,000 a month. Lot easier than minimun wage.

You could join a board? "Hello, I'm here to join your board of directors"-type thing?

I thought the same thing about “maybe teach,” as if teaching is some easy and unskilled job you can simply transition to.