DD failed both reading and math SOL

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Anonymous wrote:never turn down a retake!!!!

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It is not worth the mental load for some kids. Unless it is mandatory for high school graduation?

if you all feel that way about sol retakes, then fcps should also get rid of retakes in classes period.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a high school literacy teacher I just want to say that if she retakes a 389, it could go either way. It’s only a few questions, so passing is possible. If she doesn’t, and they put her into a literacy support elective, please don’t opt out of it. The SOL is *not* a hard test, so if kids can’t pass it, even with retakes, they legitimately could use reading intervention.

I'm not a teacher but I am the mom of a child with dyslexia that wasn't diagnosed until 6th grade. My child has passed the reading SOL every year - so I agree with this PP. If your child didn't pass, you need to have her evaluated and get her help.

Me again - my child had also been seeing the reading specialist all through ES and she STILL passed the SOL. OP, if you don't get your child evaluated, you are doing her a great disservice. Tutoring is not going to help in the same way that intensive remediation for a learning disability will.

OP here. I did speak to her teacher about testing her today. She said I am welcomed to do the referral but that she has not seen enough evidence to indicate that there is any type of disability. I will still put in the referral and she is supportive but said for her part she repeated again that she does not have enough evidence to make her think that DD has a learning disability.

NP - I agree with the PP that you need to try to get her evaluated. Ideally privately. We are in APS, but the admin only will refer if the child is basically failing. My now middle schooler is super smart but dyslexic/ADHD. They were able to compensate to be average, but really struggling. Our school told us they didn’t diagnose dyslexia until 3rd grade; we had him evaluated privately in 1st grade, extra supports starting in 2nd/3rd and he is now thriving. I would also question other teachers about how she is doing in other classes - particularly for reading, weakness has ripple effects across most subjects.

Another area to consider is whether she has anxiety - my friend’s child has severe anxiety and it curtails his abilities to work independently.

Lastly, for remediation I would recommend finding an in-district tutor - ideally a 6th grade teacher now annd over the summer. They have access to district resources, as well as knowledge of where she should be, and if there is a possible learning disorder. That is how we identified my child - their reading tutor basically told us that the amount of effort + intellect was not resulting in anywhere near what she expected and she thought something else was going on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a high school literacy teacher I just want to say that if she retakes a 389, it could go either way. It’s only a few questions, so passing is possible. If she doesn’t, and they put her into a literacy support elective, please don’t opt out of it. The SOL is *not* a hard test, so if kids can’t pass it, even with retakes, they legitimately could use reading intervention.

I'm not a teacher but I am the mom of a child with dyslexia that wasn't diagnosed until 6th grade. My child has passed the reading SOL every year - so I agree with this PP. If your child didn't pass, you need to have her evaluated and get her help.

Me again - my child had also been seeing the reading specialist all through ES and she STILL passed the SOL. OP, if you don't get your child evaluated, you are doing her a great disservice. Tutoring is not going to help in the same way that intensive remediation for a learning disability will.

OP here. I did speak to her teacher about testing her today. She said I am welcomed to do the referral but that she has not seen enough evidence to indicate that there is any type of disability. I will still put in the referral and she is supportive but said for her part she repeated again that she does not have enough evidence to make her think that DD has a learning disability.

You still haven't answered what her grades and Iready scores looked like throughout the year. Is this the first indication of something being wrong?

Also, the teacher has no training in identifying learning disabilities, don't listen to her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just got her math score, 397.

SO looking at 389 in reading and math 397.

I'm confused how you got her math scores a day or two after already knowing that she failed her math SOL (it's in the title)?

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Anonymous wrote:Just got her math score, 397.

SO looking at 389 in reading and math 397.

I'm confused how you got her math scores a day or two after already knowing that she failed her math SOL (it's in the title)?

When they fail, you know almost immediately b/c the school will "tutor" and have the kid retake. Agree that OP should not make child retake and agree that child needs to be assessed. Pop on over to the SN board and explain your situation more. I bet there are some people who can help you build a case. I am in APS and this is how I finally got my kid an IEP for dyslexia and ADHD. I had the private eval, which the school ignored, until they asked for an SOL retake. I declined and requested a "child study" meeting which they have to do, by law. (well, in the before times). I think within 10 days. My memory is starting to fade on the details. Anyway, my 9th grader is in a great place now. If there's an underlying issue, it's best to know now and address before 9th grade.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:never turn down a retake!!!!

-100%

It is not worth the mental load for some kids. Unless it is mandatory for high school graduation?

if you all feel that way about sol retakes, then fcps should also get rid of retakes in classes period.

Of course they should. No SOL at all either.

[Anonymous]

She likely only missed 1 or 2 questions and may do well on a retake. This boost will make her feel better if she passes on her own. If she doesn’t pass, then explore more tutoring options. But give her a chance one more time to pass the test. She was very very close.

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You have this posted on a couple forums. Why?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a high school literacy teacher I just want to say that if she retakes a 389, it could go either way. It’s only a few questions, so passing is possible. If she doesn’t, and they put her into a literacy support elective, please don’t opt out of it. The SOL is *not* a hard test, so if kids can’t pass it, even with retakes, they legitimately could use reading intervention.

I'm not a teacher but I am the mom of a child with dyslexia that wasn't diagnosed until 6th grade. My child has passed the reading SOL every year - so I agree with this PP. If your child didn't pass, you need to have her evaluated and get her help.

Me again - my child had also been seeing the reading specialist all through ES and she STILL passed the SOL. OP, if you don't get your child evaluated, you are doing her a great disservice. Tutoring is not going to help in the same way that intensive remediation for a learning disability will.

OP here. I did speak to her teacher about testing her today. She said I am welcomed to do the referral but that she has not seen enough evidence to indicate that there is any type of disability. I will still put in the referral and she is supportive but said for her part she repeated again that she does not have enough evidence to make her think that DD has a learning disability.

You still haven't answered what her grades and Iready scores looked like throughout the year. Is this the first indication of something being wrong?

Also, the teacher has no training in identifying learning disabilities, don't listen to her.

I could have some interesting how you all immediately think she might have a learning disability. No one asked did she rush? Has she been putting an effort this year?

There are a lot of reasons why kids don’t do well in school and a learning disability is one of many.

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The SOL deserve some credit here. The SOL scores alerted the OP that their DD needs additional assistance. Several posters have chimed in with similar experiences.

The child is in 6th grade, why is this just coming to light? I would guess that OPs kid has passed proficient but in the lower end of the scores and has had lower percentile iReady's for a while. There is no way that this is a suddent thing. This has to be something that has been brewing but OP has been fine with whatever the scores have been. Good for OP for acting now but I suspect that there have been other signs.

At least at our school, I begged in IEP meetings for them to look at my child's low 400s reading scores on the SOL to try to figure out where he was going wrong. Primarily, I wanted to know whether it was a reading issue, a comprehension issue, or a test taking issue. It wasn't until he failed, that anyone at the school gave a damn. And they were able to raise his score 50 points in 3 days, so I doubt it was a true reading/comprehension issue. The issue isn't always the parents. Especially in this world of electronic learning, we don't always have the information we need to help our kids.

[Anonymous]

You have this posted on a couple forums. Why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You have this posted on a couple forums. Why?

Why is this so important to you? Why do you keep asking this?

It takes a special kind of boredom or insensitivity to go after a parent who is asking for help/reference/perspective from other parents that could maybe provide some insights.

This says a lot about you. I would reflect on that!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The most important thing is to decline the retake. No need to make her sit though all that again.

Tell me more about this. It had not crossed my mind not to have it retake it because I was hoping she could get to the passing grade but is there really no benefit for her to do it?

Don't do the retake- it does not benefit your child at all!

[Anonymous]

FCPS has terrible reading curriculum. Could she be dyslexic? Sixth grade is not unusual to find out there is a learning disability (especially in FCPS who ignore things). Find an Orton-Gillingham tutor if you suspect dyslexia.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The most important thing is to decline the retake. No need to make her sit though all that again.

Tell me more about this. It had not crossed my mind not to have it retake it because I was hoping she could get to the passing grade but is there really no benefit for her to do it?

Don't do the retake- it does not benefit your child at all!

It does benefit a rising 7th grader to have a passing SOL score. There are previous posts about this. A failing SOL score typically causes a student to be placed in an extra support class during 7th grade. This means giving up an elective.