Governor Moore vetoes bill to study reparations

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Anonymous wrote:Given today’s political climate, I think it’s hilarious that we are even having this discussion. We are lucky our democracy stays intact. Read.the.room. We are so far from reparations.


Calling reparations “hilarious” just shows what your personal prefrences are, that's all, just like any name-calling session. Now, if you honestly just don’t care about reparations and/or or think African Americans should just “get over” slavery, that’s your right, but your personal boredom on the matter doesn’t the U.S. can not plan to do what is right, whether you care our not. "Democracy", as you are so so concerned about, stays healthy when we dig into unfinished business, not when we act like it’s too messy. Think about it, the Civil Rights movement happened in the 60s, a rough time for our country, we can do big things in the current rough time for our country.


What's strange is that Democrats are desperate for you to forget waht might have been happening in the last four years and any investigations into that recent history are "pointless." Yet, we have something from 180 years ago that needs a closer look.


The fact Dems don’t push back on big electronic corporation use of slavery is telling.

And the fact they don’t make demands that Great Britain, Portugal, France, Spain, Denmark etc etc, the countries that brought slaves and slavery here is also telling. The US is responsible for its part from its declaration to the passing of the 13th amendment.

This is just a dangling carrot to get people’s votes.

The reality is that reparations to black Americans are not going to happen unless you do it for all descendants of slaves and pay back the native tribes.
Slavery still exists today. Every time we eat a chocolate bar we are financially supporting slavery. The US is sends foreign aid to Saudi Arabia, which has something like 700,000 modern day slaves.

Yet, nobody seems to care at all about it.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s definitely trying to appeal to the conservative side in preparation for his future presidential campaign


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Anonymous wrote:He’s definitely trying to appeal to the conservative side in preparation for his future presidential campaign




Don't underestimate how smart Moore is. He'll say now that he's not running in 2028 because it makes it so that people don't analyze his every move as though he's preparing for a presidential run, but then in 2027, he'll say that he's decided to run because our country is a wreck and people have been encouraging him to do it.
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^^^ Just to follow up, let's not forget that he'd be following in good footsteps when he does this:


https://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/22/obama.presidency/

Sen. Barack Obama said Sunday that he may run for president in 2008, despite previous assertions that he would complete his current six-year senatorial term, which ends in 2011.

"I would say I am still at the point where I have not made a decision to pursue higher office, but it is true that I have thought about it over the last several months," the 45-year-old Democratic senator from Illinois told NBC's "Meet the Press."

In January, Obama told NBC that he would not run for president or vice president in 2008.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:^^^ Just to follow up, let's not forget that he'd be following in good footsteps when he does this:


https://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/22/obama.presidency/

Sen. Barack Obama said Sunday that he may run for president in 2008, despite previous assertions that he would complete his current six-year senatorial term, which ends in 2011.

"I would say I am still at the point where I have not made a decision to pursue higher office, but it is true that I have thought about it over the last several months," the 45-year-old Democratic senator from Illinois told NBC's "Meet the Press."

In January, Obama told NBC that he would not run for president or vice president in 2008.


Wes Moore is no Barack Obama, in any way.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^^ Just to follow up, let's not forget that he'd be following in good footsteps when he does this:


https://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/22/obama.presidency/

Sen. Barack Obama said Sunday that he may run for president in 2008, despite previous assertions that he would complete his current six-year senatorial term, which ends in 2011.

"I would say I am still at the point where I have not made a decision to pursue higher office, but it is true that I have thought about it over the last several months," the 45-year-old Democratic senator from Illinois told NBC's "Meet the Press."

In January, Obama told NBC that he would not run for president or vice president in 2008.


Wes Moore is no Barack Obama, in any way.


OK, not the point. The point is that it doesn't matter if a politician says they won't run for a particular office; they can always just say they changed their mind and no one cares.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Given today’s political climate, I think it’s hilarious that we are even having this discussion. We are lucky our democracy stays intact. Read.the.room. We are so far from reparations.


The fact that America has never bothered to fix the wrongs done to black Americans is exactly why we are here. This country is just doing to other people what it has always done to Black people (and yes Natives). White American refusal to see how these things are related are exactly why we are here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Given today’s political climate, I think it’s hilarious that we are even having this discussion. We are lucky our democracy stays intact. Read.the.room. We are so far from reparations.


The fact that America has never bothered to fix the wrongs done to black Americans is exactly why we are here. This country is just doing to other people what it has always done to Black people (and yes Natives). White American refusal to see how these things are related are exactly why we are here.


That's your perspective. Many would say that giving blacks preference for jobs, college admissions, government grants and contracts, and housing programs, over the course of many decades, was fixing the wrongs, and many blacks have succeeded because of all of those opportunities. But yes, we understand that the "fix" you now want for those that didn't take advantage of all of those opportunities is big, fat reparations checks.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Given today’s political climate, I think it’s hilarious that we are even having this discussion. We are lucky our democracy stays intact. Read.the.room. We are so far from reparations.


The fact that America has never bothered to fix the wrongs done to black Americans is exactly why we are here. This country is just doing to other people what it has always done to Black people (and yes Natives). White American refusal to see how these things are related are exactly why we are here.


That's your perspective. Many would say that giving blacks preference for jobs, college admissions, government grants and contracts, and housing programs, over the course of many decades, was fixing the wrongs, and many blacks have succeeded because of all of those opportunities. But yes, we understand that the "fix" you now want for those that didn't take advantage of all of those opportunities is big, fat reparations checks.


50 years - at most - of preferences for black Americans does not undo the legacy of slavery + Jim Crow, which goes back hundreds of years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Given today’s political climate, I think it’s hilarious that we are even having this discussion. We are lucky our democracy stays intact. Read.the.room. We are so far from reparations.


The fact that America has never bothered to fix the wrongs done to black Americans is exactly why we are here. This country is just doing to other people what it has always done to Black people (and yes Natives). White American refusal to see how these things are related are exactly why we are here.


That's your perspective. Many would say that giving blacks preference for jobs, college admissions, government grants and contracts, and housing programs, over the course of many decades, was fixing the wrongs, and many blacks have succeeded because of all of those opportunities. But yes, we understand that the "fix" you now want for those that didn't take advantage of all of those opportunities is big, fat reparations checks.


50 years - at most - of preferences for black Americans does not undo the legacy of slavery + Jim Crow, which goes back hundreds of years.

Sure it does. It’s really simple at this point.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Given today’s political climate, I think it’s hilarious that we are even having this discussion. We are lucky our democracy stays intact. Read.the.room. We are so far from reparations.


The fact that America has never bothered to fix the wrongs done to black Americans is exactly why we are here. This country is just doing to other people what it has always done to Black people (and yes Natives). White American refusal to see how these things are related are exactly why we are here.


That's your perspective. Many would say that giving blacks preference for jobs, college admissions, government grants and contracts, and housing programs, over the course of many decades, was fixing the wrongs, and many blacks have succeeded because of all of those opportunities. But yes, we understand that the "fix" you now want for those that didn't take advantage of all of those opportunities is big, fat reparations checks.


50 years - at most - of preferences for black Americans does not undo the legacy of slavery + Jim Crow, which goes back hundreds of years.

Sure it does. It’s really simple at this point.


Okay. It's been 60 years. What is your plan for reparations?

Who gets it? How do you determine who deserves it?
What do they get?
Who is going to pay for it?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Given today’s political climate, I think it’s hilarious that we are even having this discussion. We are lucky our democracy stays intact. Read.the.room. We are so far from reparations.


The fact that America has never bothered to fix the wrongs done to black Americans is exactly why we are here. This country is just doing to other people what it has always done to Black people (and yes Natives). White American refusal to see how these things are related are exactly why we are here.


That's your perspective. Many would say that giving blacks preference for jobs, college admissions, government grants and contracts, and housing programs, over the course of many decades, was fixing the wrongs, and many blacks have succeeded because of all of those opportunities. But yes, we understand that the "fix" you now want for those that didn't take advantage of all of those opportunities is big, fat reparations checks.


I find this poster’s tone and use of the word “blacks,” unsettling. I wonder how often people like this spend time with actual black people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Given today’s political climate, I think it’s hilarious that we are even having this discussion. We are lucky our democracy stays intact. Read.the.room. We are so far from reparations.


The fact that America has never bothered to fix the wrongs done to black Americans is exactly why we are here. This country is just doing to other people what it has always done to Black people (and yes Natives). White American refusal to see how these things are related are exactly why we are here.


That's your perspective. Many would say that giving blacks preference for jobs, college admissions, government grants and contracts, and housing programs, over the course of many decades, was fixing the wrongs, and many blacks have succeeded because of all of those opportunities. But yes, we understand that the "fix" you now want for those that didn't take advantage of all of those opportunities is big, fat reparations checks.


DP: Honestly, I’d be happier with genuine community investment (We got “separate “ but never “equal “) and genuine acknowledgment of the history of the US — starting with elementary school texts. I don’t see either of those things happening, particularly with the current predilection for white washing history and banning access to books.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Given today’s political climate, I think it’s hilarious that we are even having this discussion. We are lucky our democracy stays intact. Read.the.room. We are so far from reparations.


The fact that America has never bothered to fix the wrongs done to black Americans is exactly why we are here. This country is just doing to other people what it has always done to Black people (and yes Natives). White American refusal to see how these things are related are exactly why we are here.


That's your perspective. Many would say that giving blacks preference for jobs, college admissions, government grants and contracts, and housing programs, over the course of many decades, was fixing the wrongs, and many blacks have succeeded because of all of those opportunities. But yes, we understand that the "fix" you now want for those that didn't take advantage of all of those opportunities is big, fat reparations checks.


50 years - at most - of preferences for black Americans does not undo the legacy of slavery + Jim Crow, which goes back hundreds of years.

Sure it does. It’s really simple at this point.


Okay. It's been 60 years. What is your plan for reparations?

Who gets it? How do you determine who deserves it?
What do they get?
Who is going to pay for it?
no one and nothing. As was said, there were tons of preferences given to people who were not slaves. The ship has sailed. Stop treating African Americans different than Americans. Promote solid family values and the rest takes care of itself.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Given today’s political climate, I think it’s hilarious that we are even having this discussion. We are lucky our democracy stays intact. Read.the.room. We are so far from reparations.


The fact that America has never bothered to fix the wrongs done to black Americans is exactly why we are here. This country is just doing to other people what it has always done to Black people (and yes Natives). White American refusal to see how these things are related are exactly why we are here.


That's your perspective. Many would say that giving blacks preference for jobs, college admissions, government grants and contracts, and housing programs, over the course of many decades, was fixing the wrongs, and many blacks have succeeded because of all of those opportunities. But yes, we understand that the "fix" you now want for those that didn't take advantage of all of those opportunities is big, fat reparations checks.


50 years - at most - of preferences for black Americans does not undo the legacy of slavery + Jim Crow, which goes back hundreds of years.

Sure it does. It’s really simple at this point.


Okay. It's been 60 years. What is your plan for reparations?

Who gets it? How do you determine who deserves it?
What do they get?
Who is going to pay for it?
no one and nothing. As was said, there were tons of preferences given to people who were not slaves. The ship has sailed. Stop treating African Americans different than Americans. Promote solid family values and the rest takes care of itself.


And I bet you “don’t see color”.
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