Why the lack of VTech for Sidwell Seniors?

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Anonymous wrote:This is an obvious answer. The student body is not wealthy enough to be an appealing option for students from a prestigious private school. Parents don’t want their kids to marry down and the dating pool of students from families in the top 1% of the income distribution is too small at Tech. Why would you want your kid to go to school where only 3% of the students come from very affluent families. They will not marry well at a school like that.

NP. Interesting angle. What about Wisconsin? The kids there were overall very attractive. How many are top 1% at Wisconsin?

I can't wait to see what the PPP's "source" is for this nonsense.

This is a reputable source. An NYT interactive article about the income composition of colleges based on social mobility research data. Nope, Wisconsin is an even worse choice if you want to maintain your kids/future grandkids social status. Only 1.7% of the University of Wisconsin student body come from families in the top 1% of the income distribution.

Think about this logically people. A lot of these kids from very wealthy families. Their children don’t necessarily need to work (even though most kids do work). The biggest worry for these parents is maintaining what their family already has. Ensuring that your kid doesn’t marry down (too much) is more important that making sure that your kid attends the best engineering program. It’s better for your kid to study a useless degree at an (affluent) SLAC and marry into a similarly wealthy family than marry into a middle class family at a good engineering school. This is unspoken truth of American Society. Very rich people pretend to be egalitarian in public, but their actual behavior they encourage for their own children is reminiscent of Victorian England.

OMG what a delusional post. I met no one in our time at Sidwell whose primary goal was marrying their kid off to the right stock. They were all gunning for top schools and their kids had high academic and career aspirations.

Of course no one will admit to this because it is not socially acceptable to say, but significant fraction of the parents are definitely thinking this (at prestigious private schools) . They want their kid to socialize with the right people and marry well.

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Anonymous wrote:This is an obvious answer. The student body is not wealthy enough to be an appealing option for students from a prestigious private school. Parents don’t want their kids to marry down and the dating pool of students from families in the top 1% of the income distribution is too small at Tech. Why would you want your kid to go to school where only 3% of the students come from very affluent families. They will not marry well at a school like that.

NP. Interesting angle. What about Wisconsin? The kids there were overall very attractive. How many are top 1% at Wisconsin?

I can't wait to see what the PPP's "source" is for this nonsense.

This is a reputable source. An NYT interactive article about the income composition of colleges based on social mobility research data. Nope, Wisconsin is an even worse choice if you want to maintain your kids/future grandkids social status. Only 1.7% of the University of Wisconsin student body come from families in the top 1% of the income distribution.

So post the link. We don't need your narrative.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/university-of-wisconsin

In defense of Wisconsin, the data in that article is from 2013. The school now is very different than what it was then- I would say in terms of draw it ranks below UMich now in drawing OOS students to apply, but is one of the higher-regarded State schools in the country now.

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Anonymous wrote:I suspect there aren’t many Sidwell students from Virginia, and VT isn’t as appealing as an out of state option compared to places like Pitt and the others you mentioned.

Which would make sense except for the fact that both UVA and W&M which are both smaller (both almost half the size or less than VT) are bolded on the list.

Well, these kids prefer UVA and W&M over VT. Not sure what else there is to say about it!

The Wall Street Journal ranks Virginia Tech higher than either UVA or William & Mary.

It’s a heavily STEM focused school, however. The “elites” from Sidwell and other privates haven’t caught on yet and are stuck on tradition rather than the changing economy.

VT is more TE than STEM. High enrollment in engineering and computer science. Not in traditional sciences and mathematical fields.

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Sidwell parents tend to be very wealthy and many would be embarrassed to say their kid is going to VT. Wealthy private school parents with underperforming kids end up sending them to tier-2/3 private schools on full pay. NYU, Tulane, and Colgate are filled with underperforming prep kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Sidwell parents tend to be very wealthy and many would be embarrassed to say their kid is going to VT. Wealthy private school parents with underperforming kids end up sending them to tier-2/3 private schools on full pay. NYU, Tulane, and Colgate are filled with underperforming prep kids.

"Underperforming kids?" Curious what you overperforming snowflake has done with their life?

Pitt is represented, but not VT. That kind of destroys your mean spirited narrative, which was only spun to assuage the jealous rage found within your person.

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Anonymous wrote:This is an obvious answer. The student body is not wealthy enough to be an appealing option for students from a prestigious private school. Parents don’t want their kids to marry down and the dating pool of students from families in the top 1% of the income distribution is too small at Tech. Why would you want your kid to go to school where only 3% of the students come from very affluent families. They will not marry well at a school like that.

NP. Interesting angle. What about Wisconsin? The kids there were overall very attractive. How many are top 1% at Wisconsin?

I can't wait to see what the PPP's "source" is for this nonsense.

This is a reputable source. An NYT interactive article about the income composition of colleges based on social mobility research data. Nope, Wisconsin is an even worse choice if you want to maintain your kids/future grandkids social status. Only 1.7% of the University of Wisconsin student body come from families in the top 1% of the income distribution.

Think about this logically people. A lot of these kids from very wealthy families. Their children don’t necessarily need to work (even though most kids do work). The biggest worry for these parents is maintaining what their family already has. Ensuring that your kid doesn’t marry down (too much) is more important that making sure that your kid attends the best engineering program. It’s better for your kid to study a useless degree at an (affluent) SLAC and marry into a similarly wealthy family than marry into a middle class family at a good engineering school. This is unspoken truth of American Society. Very rich people pretend to be egalitarian in public, but their actual behavior they encourage for their own children is reminiscent of Victorian England.

I get the impression that you are a public school parent? Your argument is ridiculous. No one thinks their kid is going to maintain their wealth by going to certain schools. Kids from private schools aren’t choosing VT simply because they don’t “have” to go there - unlink a lot of students that need in state tuition. They have the money to go out of state. I was LMC and no one wanted to go to our state school, everyone wanted to get the hell out of dodge. I think VT is great, but Blacksburg vs Pittsburgh or Madison? C’mon. No one wants that.

My DC chose Blacksburg over Pittsburgh, so maybe not "no one"...

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My DC chose Blacksburg over Pittsburgh, so maybe not "no one"...

Mine did too, and over Duke and Purdue and others as well! We visited Pitt the day after an Ohio State visit - she really liked OSU's campus, and as we pulled to the edge of Pitt's, I could see her face in my rear view and it just sunk. I don't know how she didn't realize how urban-feeling it is, but perhaps being there back to back with OSU drove home how much she really did want a more traditional campus feel.

She is living her best life at VT with challenging but manageable academics, amazing opportunities, wonderful friends, and a good social life. It is 100% everything she'd/we'd hoped for.

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Anonymous wrote:I suspect there aren’t many Sidwell students from Virginia, and VT isn’t as appealing as an out of state option compared to places like Pitt and the others you mentioned.

Which would make sense except for the fact that both UVA and W&M which are both smaller (both almost half the size or less than VT) are bolded on the list.

Well, these kids prefer UVA and W&M over VT. Not sure what else there is to say about it!

The Wall Street Journal ranks Virginia Tech higher than either UVA or William & Mary.

It’s a heavily STEM focused school, however. The “elites” from Sidwell and other privates haven’t caught on yet and are stuck on tradition rather than the changing economy.

VT is more TE than STEM. High enrollment in engineering and computer science. Not in traditional sciences and mathematical fields.

This is not true. There is also an excellent Liberal Arts college. VT is much more than just engineering/STEM.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:This is an obvious answer. The student body is not wealthy enough to be an appealing option for students from a prestigious private school. Parents don’t want their kids to marry down and the dating pool of students from families in the top 1% of the income distribution is too small at Tech. Why would you want your kid to go to school where only 3% of the students come from very affluent families. They will not marry well at a school like that.

NP. Interesting angle. What about Wisconsin? The kids there were overall very attractive. How many are top 1% at Wisconsin?

I can't wait to see what the PPP's "source" is for this nonsense.

This is a reputable source. An NYT interactive article about the income composition of colleges based on social mobility research data. Nope, Wisconsin is an even worse choice if you want to maintain your kids/future grandkids social status. Only 1.7% of the University of Wisconsin student body come from families in the top 1% of the income distribution.

Think about this logically people. A lot of these kids from very wealthy families. Their children don’t necessarily need to work (even though most kids do work). The biggest worry for these parents is maintaining what their family already has. Ensuring that your kid doesn’t marry down (too much) is more important that making sure that your kid attends the best engineering program. It’s better for your kid to study a useless degree at an (affluent) SLAC and marry into a similarly wealthy family than marry into a middle class family at a good engineering school. This is unspoken truth of American Society. Very rich people pretend to be egalitarian in public, but their actual behavior they encourage for their own children is reminiscent of Victorian England.

I get the impression that you are a public school parent? Your argument is ridiculous. No one thinks their kid is going to maintain their wealth by going to certain schools. Kids from private schools aren’t choosing VT simply because they don’t “have” to go there - unlink a lot of students that need in state tuition. They have the money to go out of state. I was LMC and no one wanted to go to our state school, everyone wanted to get the hell out of dodge. I think VT is great, but Blacksburg vs Pittsburgh or Madison? C’mon. No one wants that.

My DC chose Blacksburg over Pittsburgh, so maybe not "no one"...

Right? So did mine - and many other kids. Pitt might appeal to those seeking an urban environment, but for those who want the mountains and fresh air, Blacksburg is great.

[Anonymous]

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My DC chose Blacksburg over Pittsburgh, so maybe not "no one"...

Mine did too, and over Duke and Purdue and others as well! We visited Pitt the day after an Ohio State visit - she really liked OSU's campus, and as we pulled to the edge of Pitt's, I could see her face in my rear view and it just sunk. I don't know how she didn't realize how urban-feeling it is, but perhaps being there back to back with OSU drove home how much she really did want a more traditional campus feel.

She is living her best life at VT with challenging but manageable academics, amazing opportunities, wonderful friends, and a good social life. It is 100% everything she'd/we'd hoped for.

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I attended a SLAC and can't believe the breadth of opportunities my DC is having at VT. It makes my college experience pale by comparison.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

My DC chose Blacksburg over Pittsburgh, so maybe not "no one"...

Mine did too, and over Duke and Purdue and others as well! We visited Pitt the day after an Ohio State visit - she really liked OSU's campus, and as we pulled to the edge of Pitt's, I could see her face in my rear view and it just sunk. I don't know how she didn't realize how urban-feeling it is, but perhaps being there back to back with OSU drove home how much she really did want a more traditional campus feel.

She is living her best life at VT with challenging but manageable academics, amazing opportunities, wonderful friends, and a good social life. It is 100% everything she'd/we'd hoped for.

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I attended a SLAC and can't believe the breadth of opportunities my DC is having at VT. It makes my college experience pale by comparison.
DP

Oh please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

My DC chose Blacksburg over Pittsburgh, so maybe not "no one"...

Mine did too, and over Duke and Purdue and others as well! We visited Pitt the day after an Ohio State visit - she really liked OSU's campus, and as we pulled to the edge of Pitt's, I could see her face in my rear view and it just sunk. I don't know how she didn't realize how urban-feeling it is, but perhaps being there back to back with OSU drove home how much she really did want a more traditional campus feel.

She is living her best life at VT with challenging but manageable academics, amazing opportunities, wonderful friends, and a good social life. It is 100% everything she'd/we'd hoped for.

+2
I attended a SLAC and can't believe the breadth of opportunities my DC is having at VT. It makes my college experience pale by comparison.
DP

Well, three or fewer Sidwell students chose VT over any school within the last 4 years (according to Sidwell’s CCO). I don’t think any c/o ‘25 students chose VT this year. For whatever reason, it’s just not a popular destination for Sidwell kids.

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VT is in the VA Big 3

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It's a public school.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a public school.

There’s a little more to it. It’s a public school in an undesirable location (for Sidwell students). Everything isn’t for everyone, and that’s ok.