I want to better understand the "Crunchy MAGA" right wing wellness phenomenon

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Anonymous wrote:Yawn. So what is the current administration planning to do about the PFAs in our water, farming soil, etc?

Exactly. I'm all for regulating hormone disrupters, pharmaceutical advertising and food dyes. Trump is destroying the government agencies and system (and legal basis) that would do these things. He's pushing us further away from meeting your movement's goals.

I see MAHA influencers posting about food dyes. I have yet to see a single MAHA influencer video about PFAs. Oh, the irony.

So are you only in favor of regulating food dyes if we also regulate PFAs?

I don't care if we regulate food dyes because it would not substantially improve our overall health. I already avoid foods with food dyes quite easily.

PFAs on the other hand, I cannot avoid, cannot prevent my kids from ingesting. Neither can you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In conclusion, the parties kinda switched. It’s not just that the right got more into health freedom, it’s that the left got more into obeying “the man.”

The MAHA movement has cognitive dissonance on its approach to food regulation vs environmental contaminant regulation at the EPA. ln the end, the environmental piece matters far more because one can control buying whole foods but not remove exposure to environmental contaminants in the water you drink or the food you consume no matter how rural you live or wholesome you eat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:dcurbanmoms are mostly liberal arts majors and bad-at-math law school attendees who later in life (once the academic coast was clear) claimed “without evidence” that they now “f**king love science.” Lol

Spon on. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In conclusion, the parties kinda switched. It’s not just that the right got more into health freedom, it’s that the left got more into obeying “the man.”

Not really. At the EPA, republicans are still enacting deregulation that will poison us all in ways we can not avoid, even those MAHA trad wives living on farms in rural areas. Democrats still stand for regulation that promotes cleaner drinking water and avoiding truly dangerous chemicals.

But sure, ban food dyes, have at it. We still have PFAs causing cancer, fertility and thyroid issues, and more. And we will still have a poor healthcare system in the end, an obesity epidemic, and more. What is the current administration's overall plan for our healthcare system? Is it still just "concepts of a plan?"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:dcurbanmoms are mostly liberal arts majors and bad-at-math law school attendees who later in life (once the academic coast was clear) claimed “without evidence” that they now “f**king love science.” Lol

Spon on. Thank you.

Nope, not spot on.

The MAHA approach to healthcare is endlessly talking about this tiny speck of dust in the corner while ignoring the giant pile of sh*t taking up the entire room. Sure, ban dyes. They are that speck of dust and we can all agree dust is not great.

But the current administration still absolutely sucks in "following the science" in their overall approach to healthcare. In fact, they still literally have no viable plan to improve healthcare for regular American citizens other than talking about that speck of dust.

[Anonymous]

One other difference is that Democrats spend time on sites like this, which censors any discussion of corporate revenues from vaccines. Lol. They want you thinking of vaccines as a science/philanthropy situation, whereas MAHA understands that the vaccine business is a for-profit business. Liberal crunchies get their info from the pharma-affiliated establishment, so there’s a lot they just aren’t aware of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One other difference is that Democrats spend time on sites like this, which censors any discussion of corporate revenues from vaccines. Lol. They want you thinking of vaccines as a science/philanthropy situation, whereas MAHA understands that the vaccine business is a for-profit business. Liberal crunchies get their info from the pharma-affiliated establishment, so there’s a lot they just aren’t aware of.

If you think Democrats get out vaccine info from DCUM, that is really funny. I don't know where my MAGA family gets their vaccine info but frequently state complete lies like "it changes your DNA" or "Covid vaccines were not tested in animals" or "no existing vaccines were ever tested against placebo" and also do not know how to use a research search database nor have ever had to read nor critique a scientific research article.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One other difference is that Democrats spend time on sites like this, which censors any discussion of corporate revenues from vaccines. Lol. They want you thinking of vaccines as a science/philanthropy situation, whereas MAHA understands that the vaccine business is a for-profit business. Liberal crunchies get their info from the pharma-affiliated establishment, so there’s a lot they just aren’t aware of.

If you think Democrats get out vaccine info from DCUM, that is really funny. I don't know where my MAGA family gets their vaccine info but frequently state complete lies like "it changes your DNA" or "Covid vaccines were not tested in animals" or "no existing vaccines were ever tested against placebo" and also do not know how to use a research search database nor have ever had to read nor critique a scientific research article.

They probably get their info the same place Kamala I'm-not-taking-it-if-Trump-develops-it Harris does.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In conclusion, the parties kinda switched. It’s not just that the right got more into health freedom, it’s that the left got more into obeying “the man.”

The MAHA movement has cognitive dissonance on its approach to food regulation vs environmental contaminant regulation at the EPA. ln the end, the environmental piece matters far more because one can control buying whole foods but not remove exposure to environmental contaminants in the water you drink or the food you consume no matter how rural you live or wholesome you eat.

You're wrong about this. MAHA had never been blasé about PFAs. Trump didn’t run on deregulation of PFAs, he just did it after he got there. It's one thing to say that Trump has cognitive dissonance on the issue but quite a different thing to say that MAHA does. Right now, one side will regulate food additives and the other will (ineffectively) regulate PFAs. I'm not sure why you're trying to box people out when they are in violent agreement with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In conclusion, the parties kinda switched. It’s not just that the right got more into health freedom, it’s that the left got more into obeying “the man.”

The MAHA movement has cognitive dissonance on its approach to food regulation vs environmental contaminant regulation at the EPA. ln the end, the environmental piece matters far more because one can control buying whole foods but not remove exposure to environmental contaminants in the water you drink or the food you consume no matter how rural you live or wholesome you eat.

You're wrong about this. MAHA had never been blasé about PFAs. Trump didn’t run on deregulation of PFAs, he just did it after he got there. It's one thing to say that Trump has cognitive dissonance on the issue but quite a different thing to say that MAHA does. Right now, one side will regulate food additives and the other will (ineffectively) regulate PFAs. I'm not sure why you're trying to box people out when they are in violent agreement with you.

Well great. If you have Republican representatives, I hope you are vehemently bothering them about Trump's cognitive dissonance on this particular topic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One other difference is that Democrats spend time on sites like this, which censors any discussion of corporate revenues from vaccines. Lol. They want you thinking of vaccines as a science/philanthropy situation, whereas MAHA understands that the vaccine business is a for-profit business. Liberal crunchies get their info from the pharma-affiliated establishment, so there’s a lot they just aren’t aware of.

If you think Democrats get out vaccine info from DCUM, that is really funny. I don't know where my MAGA family gets their vaccine info but frequently state complete lies like "it changes your DNA" or "Covid vaccines were not tested in animals" or "no existing vaccines were ever tested against placebo" and also do not know how to use a research search database nor have ever had to read nor critique a scientific research article.

They probably get their info the same place Kamala I'm-not-taking-it-if-Trump-develops-it Harris does.

Actually not what she said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In conclusion, the parties kinda switched. It’s not just that the right got more into health freedom, it’s that the left got more into obeying “the man.”

The MAHA movement has cognitive dissonance on its approach to food regulation vs environmental contaminant regulation at the EPA. ln the end, the environmental piece matters far more because one can control buying whole foods but not remove exposure to environmental contaminants in the water you drink or the food you consume no matter how rural you live or wholesome you eat.

You're wrong about this. MAHA had never been blasé about PFAs. Trump didn’t run on deregulation of PFAs, he just did it after he got there. It's one thing to say that Trump has cognitive dissonance on the issue but quite a different thing to say that MAHA does. Right now, one side will regulate food additives and the other will (ineffectively) regulate PFAs. I'm not sure why you're trying to box people out when they are in violent agreement with you.

+1

[Anonymous]

The only proof you need that “MAHA” is a figment of imagination used to sucker people for their votes in Nov 2024:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a crunchy wellness person. I'm a vegan, I live in Takoma Park, grow a lot of my own food, and I do yoga. I am vaccinated but skeptical of Big Pharma, I tend to use medications as a last resort if lifestyle modifications don't work.

I want to learn more about the people who agree with Trump and RFK's MAHA movement. I'm trying to make this a friendly question although I can't help but point out the logical inconsistencies.

For example - you want to get chemicals out of food and water - me too! So why do you vote for the party that wants to deregulate industries?
You're skeptical of Big Pharma - me too! But do you think Republicans don't take donations from pharmaceutical companies?

What about the environment? Most yogis that I practice with are very cognizant of climate change and sustainability and protecting wildlife. I would also agree with criticisms from the right about the global scale climate initiatives being a lot of feel-good greenwashing, and that wealthy elites are hypocrites when they fly on private jets to a climate conference. So does this mean throw the baby out with the bathwater and Drill, Baby, Drill? And allow corporations to pollute everything?

I also agree that obesity is a problem and that we should eat healthier. Again, why do you feel Republicans are the people to make this happen? Especially when their standard-bearer is obese himself? To be quite frank, a lot of this attitude I'm seeing seems to be less about Make America Healthy Again, but more making it an individualistic superiority complex about shaming people without the resources to live healthier (they live in food deserts, have long commutes and sit at multiple jobs all day, cannot afford a single family home to have their own gardens, etc) and bragging about your own ability to be healthy, rather than enabling the (gasp) government to make it easier for people to be healthy?

I am originally from Takoma Park too.

Your very obvious problem is your belief that one political party owns caring about health. There's no health party. I am not rooting for any party to win or own advancing health. I just want to be healthier, and I don't care who accomplishes it. When you start caring more about results, and less about political banter, you will be healthier (mentally) too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:dcurbanmoms are mostly liberal arts majors and bad-at-math law school attendees who later in life (once the academic coast was clear) claimed “without evidence” that they now “f**king love science.” Lol

Spon on. Thank you.

Nope, not spot on.

The MAHA approach to healthcare is endlessly talking about this tiny speck of dust in the corner while ignoring the giant pile of sh*t taking up the entire room. Sure, ban dyes. They are that speck of dust and we can all agree dust is not great.

But the current administration still absolutely sucks in "following the science" in their overall approach to healthcare. In fact, they still literally have no viable plan to improve healthcare for regular American citizens other than talking about that speck of dust.

Eat more raw garlic, ginger, and tumeric. Done. All the science we need.