New principal has been brought in to bring back rigor into TJ coursework. |
My child is extremely happy with the math department and with each and every one of the math teachers they had a class with. When I attended the back to school night and met the teachers, I was really impressed with many of the teachers and particularly Chemistry, Physics, History and Math teachers. I cannot be more thankful for these teachers. The teachers thoroughly cover all the concepts and teach them exceptionally well. Some teach exactly like they teach at MIT - those are the words the Physics teacher used who taught at MIT. If a child needs tutors it is due to one of two reasons: 1. Child is not paying attention in class and/or not doing the follow up homework exercises, or 2. Child is likely not a fit at TJ for any number of reasons. |
Many Indian parents send their kids to Curie because they want to get the coursework completed ahead of time. The idea is that if you already know the material then TJ becomes manageable. Curie's owner scared and convinced a lot of these parents that without taking classes at them their child would find TJ difficult.
What Curie does is "teach" as in spoon feed the material without making the students think. They do example after example and learn by rote and repetition. When these kids come to TJ and find any class that they did not take or encounter new material for the first time, they are frozen. |
Let me give you one example. The way they teach at TJ, they explain concept 1 and do some examples. They explain concept 2 and do some examples. Then the homework has a problem that needs both concept 1 and concept 2 to be applied to solve the problem. If you skip on the assignment, which also requires spending some time thinking through the concepts in more detail, you do not really understand the concepts in a deep way.
In exams and quizzes, you have 20% of the test that requires this type of questions where you need to apply multiple concepts for the solution. |
This application of a concept in a new situation or combining multiple concepts to solve a problem, is what you do not find at base high schools. You know the concept you get 100%.
That does not work at TJ and that is on purpose. |
Yes only kids who have spent years in AoPS and RSM need apply.... <sarcasm> |
We have been hearing a lot about Curie. How difficult is the Curie curriculum? Other posts say only a fourth survive the entire curriculum. |
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Those programs pride themselves on teaching this type of thinking. My kid has done both, he does RSM now, and both programs are clear that they include problems that the kids will struggle with so that they learn to ask questions. They problems they work on in class and homework are intentionally multi-step problems. Whether you like it or not, many of the kids applying to TJ have been doing some sort of outside enrichment because they like math and they like science. They have been exposed to this type of thought process, and they don't find it challenging. DS joined his AoPS class halfway into the year during COVID. He didn't miss a step and was on par with the kids who had been in the class all year. This is how his brain works. Parents with kids applying to TJ should know that there are a good number of kids applying with a similar background. They do math competitions and science competitions for fun, and they win or are in the 99th percentile. Those are their peers at TJ. If you are expecting that the school is not aware of that and expecting kids to be at that level, then you are crazy. That is the point of TJ, teaching bright kids who are strong in STEM and interested in STEM. The classes are going to move faster and the expectation is that the kids will pick up the material more quickly. It sounds like kids who are smart and have not been as focused on STEM outside of school have to work harder, but is that a surprise? |
Correction: You don't know the concept, you can still get 100% |
That's not how my child's class works at TJ. Every class starts with a quiz or exam. So you need to know the material prior to starting the class. |
Can you give a single example? |
Did your kid fail, due to these issues? Writing incomplete solutions and making arithmethic errors on half the problems, or half the points? 0 credit for a long form answer with partially correct work? |
This is just patently not true. There are a ton of parents in the freshman chat complaining about the math format. You're basically guaranteed to have a C when the quiz format is 4 points. Not everyone at TJ does competitions and that shouldn't be an expectation. |
You know most kids prepare for class at MIT right? |