new TJ principal streamlines math courses

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Anonymous wrote:Many Indian parents send their kids to Curie because they want to get the coursework completed ahead of time. The idea is that if you already know the material then TJ becomes manageable. Curie's owner scared and convinced a lot of these parents that without taking classes at them their child would find TJ difficult.

What Curie does is "teach" as in spoon feed the material without making the students think. They do example after example and learn by rote and repetition.

When these kids come to TJ and find any class that they did not take or encounter new material for the first time, they are frozen.

Repetition is a very important part if learning. You ever hear of muscle memory? There is a similar thing simply called memory. Familiarity with techniques and concepts through repetition are often the difference between knowledge and mastery.

The kid that can handle TJ without this training world do even better with it. But it's a trade off. Do you spend time on those reps or on other parts of the high school experience.

Ultimately, that deep understanding requires reps. But all that time drilling might preclude your ability to do that science project or volunteer activity.

Repetition is important, which is an entirely different concept.

Deep understanding does not require repetition! Ever see how they practice in Indian coaching centers back in India? They are not learning concepts deeply, and I do not think you can comprehend this difference if you have not seen it.

But many aspects of your daily life depend on the technology they produce. Indian math-educated CEOs are being sought to lead companies like Google and Microsoft. wonder why?

I am from India!!! I am not talking about all Indians.

No they did not become CEO's because they went to Curie style coaching centers! My comments are specifically about the FOMO attitude that is prevalent among those who came here straight for a job.

All the CEO's you are referencing did their MS here.

You know a lot of east asian countries have a similar brute force method of learning. There is almost no time for navel gazing and wondering about stuff, it's lots of drills and techniques. You end up with a large population of stem fluent students that look really smart compared to the average american student and americans like to think this somehows destroys talent or native ability, but it doesn't. If it did, we wouldn't have to worry so much about the rise of China and india. If all they could produce were mindless low level tech drones, they would not be competing with us on computer science and robotics. What it does it it replaces the underachieving ubereats driver with a mindless tech drone in a new economy where at least the mindless tech drone can afford a middle class lifestyle. The innovators are still there.

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This thread is so completely off topic - so let me add my off topic 2c'. What makes Asians stand out is hunger... and the scarcity mindset... Education in Asia is a dog eat dog world, and you have to work your butt off to qualify for a seat in a decent educational institution.. Usually, that is your only ticket upwards. We do whatever it takes, and sadly bring this mentality abroad as well. It's the fear that makes us Tiger moms and pushes us to push our kids to excel in education at all costs.

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Personally I think Curie is an abomination, and a pointless institution, that takes away the joy from learning.. The US has a much better educational system, and it's time we let go of the fear and scarcity mindset, and let our kids love learning for the sake of learning. They are going to do fine here. Curie does them a disservice.

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Anonymous wrote:Personally I think Curie is an abomination, and a pointless institution, that takes away the joy from learning.. The US has a much better educational system, and it's time we let go of the fear and scarcity mindset, and let our kids love learning for the sake of learning. They are going to do fine here. Curie does them a disservice.

Many visitors here found out about Curie thanks to you—so thank you!

DC and their friends have been learning at Curie for the past two years and really enjoy the teaching style and the challenging curriculum. There are better enrichment options out there, but this is what fits our budget that we found affordable after trying a couple of others. Curie is also where they were first introduced to math competitions.

You may not be aware how much you are helping others by constantly bringing up Curie on this forum.

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If American math and science education is so great why are so many of the best mathematicians and scientists in America from other countries?

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Anonymous wrote:If American math and science education is so great why are so many of the best mathematicians and scientists in America from other countries?

If American math and science education is truly top-tier, then why do so many of the leading mathematicians and scientists working in America come from other countries? The answer often points to a paradox: while the U.S. offers world-class research institutions and funding opportunities, its K–12 education system—especially in math and science—has historically underperformed compared to many other countries. As a result, the U.S. attracts top talent trained abroad, who come seeking better resources, academic freedom, and career opportunities that their home countries may not provide. So, the strength of American science doesn't lie in how well it educates all its K-12 students in STEM, but in how well it absorbs and supports global talent once they get here. Over 80% of graduate and post graduate students at MIT, Stanford, Harvard, etc are international students.

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Anonymous wrote:If American math and science education is so great why are so many of the best mathematicians and scientists in America from other countries?

The U.S. K–12 education system is full of self-imposed roadblocks, often disguised as promoting “let kids learn what they have interest in.” As a result, essential math and science foundations that should be solidified in elementary and middle school are left to the whims of children who are, frankly, not mature enough to make those decisions. The majority of students who don’t "happen to" gravitate toward math and science end up missing out on critical early learning. By the time they enter high school, they’re ill-prepared —struggling with understanding basic topics like algebra, physics, chemistry, etc that should have been easier to understand by then when taught in public high school.

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USA was the richest country in the world.

5% of the world population getting 20% of the seats at the best funded and most opportunity-creating graduate schools in the world is actual pretty good performance for the locals, while also improving US wealth and power with brilliant immigrants.

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Anonymous wrote:USA was the richest country in the world.

5% of the world population getting 20% of the seats at the best funded and most opportunity-creating graduate schools in the world is actual pretty good performance for the locals, while also improving US wealth and power with brilliant immigrants.

Really?

How many of the students at the top math and science schools around the world are American?

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Anonymous wrote:Personally I think Curie is an abomination, and a pointless institution, that takes away the joy from learning.. The US has a much better educational system, and it's time we let go of the fear and scarcity mindset, and let our kids love learning for the sake of learning. They are going to do fine here. Curie does them a disservice.

Many visitors here found out about Curie thanks to you—so thank you!

DC and their friends have been learning at Curie for the past two years and really enjoy the teaching style and the challenging curriculum. There are better enrichment options out there, but this is what fits our budget that we found affordable after trying a couple of others. Curie is also where they were first introduced to math competitions.

You may not be aware how much you are helping others by constantly bringing up Curie on this forum.

Happy to help! I learnt about Curie here as well, and we tried it out - it wasn't a good fit for us, and so we moved on.

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Anonymous wrote:If American math and science education is so great why are so many of the best mathematicians and scientists in America from other countries?

The U.S. K–12 education system is full of self-imposed roadblocks, often disguised as promoting “let kids learn what they have interest in.” As a result, essential math and science foundations that should be solidified in elementary and middle school are left to the whims of children who are, frankly, not mature enough to make those decisions. The majority of students who don’t "happen to" gravitate toward math and science end up missing out on critical early learning. By the time they enter high school, they’re ill-prepared —struggling with understanding basic topics like algebra, physics, chemistry, etc that should have been easier to understand by then when taught in public high school.

PP here.

I agree. My point was that American math and science education isn't very good deposit all the claims in this board to the contrary.

I am not Indian and I don't know how good the Indian style of education is but their math and science results are better than ours