new TJ principal streamlines math courses

[Anonymous]

My kid is still in middle school but does get a pre assessment in some classes before starting the material. The score isn’t included in the grade. Or maybe it’s a completion grade.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many Indian parents send their kids to Curie because they want to get the coursework completed ahead of time. The idea is that if you already know the material then TJ becomes manageable. Curie's owner scared and convinced a lot of these parents that without taking classes at them their child would find TJ difficult.

What Curie does is "teach" as in spoon feed the material without making the students think. They do example after example and learn by rote and repetition.

When these kids come to TJ and find any class that they did not take or encounter new material for the first time, they are frozen.

Repetition is a very important part if learning. You ever hear of muscle memory? There is a similar thing simply called memory. Familiarity with techniques and concepts through repetition are often the difference between knowledge and mastery.

The kid that can handle TJ without this training world do even better with it. But it's a trade off. Do you spend time on those reps or on other parts of the high school experience.

Ultimately, that deep understanding requires reps. But all that time drilling might preclude your ability to do that science project or volunteer activity.

Repetition is important, which is an entirely different concept.

Deep understanding does not require repetition! Ever see how they practice in Indian coaching centers back in India? They are not learning concepts deeply, and I do not think you can comprehend this difference if you have not seen it.

But many aspects of your daily life depend on the technology they produce. Indian math-educated CEOs are being sought to lead companies like Google and Microsoft. wonder why?

[Anonymous]

Some teachers write raw score on paper and enter the bumped up score in SIS, others write the bumped up score on paper. That’s the difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Indian parents send their kids to Curie because they want to get the coursework completed ahead of time. The idea is that if you already know the material then TJ becomes manageable. Curie's owner scared and convinced a lot of these parents that without taking classes at them their child would find TJ difficult.

What Curie does is "teach" as in spoon feed the material without making the students think. They do example after example and learn by rote and repetition.

When these kids come to TJ and find any class that they did not take or encounter new material for the first time, they are frozen.

Repetition is a very important part if learning. You ever hear of muscle memory? There is a similar thing simply called memory. Familiarity with techniques and concepts through repetition are often the difference between knowledge and mastery.

The kid that can handle TJ without this training world do even better with it. But it's a trade off. Do you spend time on those reps or on other parts of the high school experience.

Ultimately, that deep understanding requires reps. But all that time drilling might preclude your ability to do that science project or volunteer activity.

Repetition is important, which is an entirely different concept.

Deep understanding does not require repetition! Ever see how they practice in Indian coaching centers back in India? They are not learning concepts deeply, and I do not think you can comprehend this difference if you have not seen it.

But many aspects of your daily life depend on the technology they produce. Indian math-educated CEOs are being sought to lead companies like Google and Microsoft. wonder why?

There is a your of parent that is almost unique to America that thinks that academic ability should spring from natural talent and ability as if academic effort cannot... SHOULD NOT.... affect academic results.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Indian parents send their kids to Curie because they want to get the coursework completed ahead of time. The idea is that if you already know the material then TJ becomes manageable. Curie's owner scared and convinced a lot of these parents that without taking classes at them their child would find TJ difficult.

What Curie does is "teach" as in spoon feed the material without making the students think. They do example after example and learn by rote and repetition.

When these kids come to TJ and find any class that they did not take or encounter new material for the first time, they are frozen.

Repetition is a very important part if learning. You ever hear of muscle memory? There is a similar thing simply called memory. Familiarity with techniques and concepts through repetition are often the difference between knowledge and mastery.

The kid that can handle TJ without this training world do even better with it. But it's a trade off. Do you spend time on those reps or on other parts of the high school experience.

Ultimately, that deep understanding requires reps. But all that time drilling might preclude your ability to do that science project or volunteer activity.

Repetition is important, which is an entirely different concept.

Deep understanding does not require repetition! Ever see how they practice in Indian coaching centers back in India? They are not learning concepts deeply, and I do not think you can comprehend this difference if you have not seen it.

But many aspects of your daily life depend on the technology they produce. Indian math-educated CEOs are being sought to lead companies like Google and Microsoft. wonder why?

There is a your of parent that is almost unique to America that thinks that academic ability should spring from natural talent and ability as if academic effort cannot... SHOULD NOT.... affect academic results.

DP. You're correct that other cultures think that all students should excel with hard work, and if they don't excel, they are losers. Whereas Americans are exposed to heterogeneity and know that innate ability is real. Hard work, and smart work, are essential. But they cannot create innate ability where it does not exist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Indian parents send their kids to Curie because they want to get the coursework completed ahead of time. The idea is that if you already know the material then TJ becomes manageable. Curie's owner scared and convinced a lot of these parents that without taking classes at them their child would find TJ difficult.

What Curie does is "teach" as in spoon feed the material without making the students think. They do example after example and learn by rote and repetition.

When these kids come to TJ and find any class that they did not take or encounter new material for the first time, they are frozen.

Repetition is a very important part if learning. You ever hear of muscle memory? There is a similar thing simply called memory. Familiarity with techniques and concepts through repetition are often the difference between knowledge and mastery.

The kid that can handle TJ without this training world do even better with it. But it's a trade off. Do you spend time on those reps or on other parts of the high school experience.

Ultimately, that deep understanding requires reps. But all that time drilling might preclude your ability to do that science project or volunteer activity.

Repetition is important, which is an entirely different concept.

Deep understanding does not require repetition! Ever see how they practice in Indian coaching centers back in India? They are not learning concepts deeply, and I do not think you can comprehend this difference if you have not seen it.

But many aspects of your daily life depend on the technology they produce. Indian math-educated CEOs are being sought to lead companies like Google and Microsoft. wonder why?

There is a your of parent that is almost unique to America that thinks that academic ability should spring from natural talent and ability as if academic effort cannot... SHOULD NOT.... affect academic results.

DP. You're correct that other cultures think that all students should excel with hard work, and if they don't excel, they are losers. Whereas Americans are exposed to heterogeneity and know that innate ability is real. Hard work, and smart work, are essential. But they cannot create innate ability where it does not exist.

That is not true and speak for yourself. That describes some parents who are just selfish and lazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Indian parents send their kids to Curie because they want to get the coursework completed ahead of time. The idea is that if you already know the material then TJ becomes manageable. Curie's owner scared and convinced a lot of these parents that without taking classes at them their child would find TJ difficult.

What Curie does is "teach" as in spoon feed the material without making the students think. They do example after example and learn by rote and repetition.

When these kids come to TJ and find any class that they did not take or encounter new material for the first time, they are frozen.

Repetition is a very important part if learning. You ever hear of muscle memory? There is a similar thing simply called memory. Familiarity with techniques and concepts through repetition are often the difference between knowledge and mastery.

The kid that can handle TJ without this training world do even better with it. But it's a trade off. Do you spend time on those reps or on other parts of the high school experience.

Ultimately, that deep understanding requires reps. But all that time drilling might preclude your ability to do that science project or volunteer activity.

Repetition is important, which is an entirely different concept.

Deep understanding does not require repetition! Ever see how they practice in Indian coaching centers back in India? They are not learning concepts deeply, and I do not think you can comprehend this difference if you have not seen it.

But many aspects of your daily life depend on the technology they produce. Indian math-educated CEOs are being sought to lead companies like Google and Microsoft. wonder why?

There is a your of parent that is almost unique to America that thinks that academic ability should spring from natural talent and ability as if academic effort cannot... SHOULD NOT.... affect academic results.

DP. You're correct that other cultures think that all students should excel with hard work, and if they don't excel, they are losers. Whereas Americans are exposed to heterogeneity and know that innate ability is real. Hard work, and smart work, are essential. But they cannot create innate ability where it does not exist.

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You can help a kid live up to their talents but some kids are simply smarter than others. They just are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Indian parents send their kids to Curie because they want to get the coursework completed ahead of time. The idea is that if you already know the material then TJ becomes manageable. Curie's owner scared and convinced a lot of these parents that without taking classes at them their child would find TJ difficult.

What Curie does is "teach" as in spoon feed the material without making the students think. They do example after example and learn by rote and repetition.

When these kids come to TJ and find any class that they did not take or encounter new material for the first time, they are frozen.

Repetition is a very important part if learning. You ever hear of muscle memory? There is a similar thing simply called memory. Familiarity with techniques and concepts through repetition are often the difference between knowledge and mastery.

The kid that can handle TJ without this training world do even better with it. But it's a trade off. Do you spend time on those reps or on other parts of the high school experience.

Ultimately, that deep understanding requires reps. But all that time drilling might preclude your ability to do that science project or volunteer activity.

Repetition is important, which is an entirely different concept.

Deep understanding does not require repetition! Ever see how they practice in Indian coaching centers back in India? They are not learning concepts deeply, and I do not think you can comprehend this difference if you have not seen it.

But many aspects of your daily life depend on the technology they produce. Indian math-educated CEOs are being sought to lead companies like Google and Microsoft. wonder why?

I am from India!!! I am not talking about all Indians.

No they did not become CEO's because they went to Curie style coaching centers! My comments are specifically about the FOMO attitude that is prevalent among those who came here straight for a job.

All the CEO's you are referencing did their MS here.

[Anonymous]

I am all for hard work. There is a difference between rote learning and learning by thinking deeply!

I did my BS in India. Any engineering text book you read has 30 pages of examples and 2 pages of theory, followed by 200 exercise problems.

That is not a good way to learn. This is the same method Curie follows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Indian parents send their kids to Curie because they want to get the coursework completed ahead of time. The idea is that if you already know the material then TJ becomes manageable. Curie's owner scared and convinced a lot of these parents that without taking classes at them their child would find TJ difficult.

What Curie does is "teach" as in spoon feed the material without making the students think. They do example after example and learn by rote and repetition.

When these kids come to TJ and find any class that they did not take or encounter new material for the first time, they are frozen.

Repetition is a very important part if learning. You ever hear of muscle memory? There is a similar thing simply called memory. Familiarity with techniques and concepts through repetition are often the difference between knowledge and mastery.

The kid that can handle TJ without this training world do even better with it. But it's a trade off. Do you spend time on those reps or on other parts of the high school experience.

Ultimately, that deep understanding requires reps. But all that time drilling might preclude your ability to do that science project or volunteer activity.

Repetition is important, which is an entirely different concept.

Deep understanding does not require repetition! Ever see how they practice in Indian coaching centers back in India? They are not learning concepts deeply, and I do not think you can comprehend this difference if you have not seen it.

But many aspects of your daily life depend on the technology they produce. Indian math-educated CEOs are being sought to lead companies like Google and Microsoft. wonder why?

There is a your of parent that is almost unique to America that thinks that academic ability should spring from natural talent and ability as if academic effort cannot... SHOULD NOT.... affect academic results.

DP. You're correct that other cultures think that all students should excel with hard work, and if they don't excel, they are losers. Whereas Americans are exposed to heterogeneity and know that innate ability is real. Hard work, and smart work, are essential. But they cannot create innate ability where it does not exist.

That is not true and speak for yourself. That describes some parents who are just selfish and lazy.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am all for hard work. There is a difference between rote learning and learning by thinking deeply!

I did my BS in India. Any engineering text book you read has 30 pages of examples and 2 pages of theory, followed by 200 exercise problems.

That is not a good way to learn. This is the same method Curie follows.

Curie has multiple locations. Which one has the best reviews? Do they do online classes?

[Anonymous]

You don't get innovators from the Curie model of education. Unless they were going to be innovators anyway.

What you do get is people who can make money working for the innovators. They will have a bare minimum of competence but they will not learn the ability to develop a solution on their own.

It's different approaches. You need both types of people to move technology forward. That's not to say that a kid who goes to Curie doesn't have the talent to be an innovator - it's just not helping them to become one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You don't get innovators from the Curie model of education. Unless they were going to be innovators anyway.

What you do get is people who can make money working for the innovators. They will have a bare minimum of competence but they will not learn the ability to develop a solution on their own.

It's different approaches. You need both types of people to move technology forward. That's not to say that a kid who goes to Curie doesn't have the talent to be an innovator - it's just not helping them to become one.

Innovators or just bare minimum educated, public school systems by themselves have a challenge of prepping high schoolers to continue with College education.

"In 2023, 61.4% of recent high school graduates enrolled in college in the fall. Of those enrolled, 74.6% were in four-year institutions, and 25.4% were in two-year institutions. "

Why are public schools failing to prep and motivate 38.6% of high school graduates to continue education?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't get innovators from the Curie model of education. Unless they were going to be innovators anyway.

What you do get is people who can make money working for the innovators. They will have a bare minimum of competence but they will not learn the ability to develop a solution on their own.

It's different approaches. You need both types of people to move technology forward. That's not to say that a kid who goes to Curie doesn't have the talent to be an innovator - it's just not helping them to become one.

Innovators or just bare minimum educated, public school systems by themselves have a challenge of prepping high schoolers to continue with College education.

"In 2023, 61.4% of recent high school graduates enrolled in college in the fall. Of those enrolled, 74.6% were in four-year institutions, and 25.4% were in two-year institutions. "

Why are public schools failing to prep and motivate 38.6% of high school graduates to continue education?

So you think the 38.6% all want to be Google CEO and it’s public school that stops them? The stats only say not everyone goes to college, not that they don’t continue to learn or that they all wished they could have been CEOs. Electricians, technicians, plumbers, flight attendants, construction workers, sales reps, police officers, firefighters… actors, musicians, artists, etc. don’t need college degrees and they continue learn in their fields and can become more successful than college grads (and have less debt). Your stats only support an argument that not everyone goes to college and that’s always been true (ex, in 1975, only 50% of students went to college after HS).

[Anonymous]

Each ethnic student group draws inspiration from its role models. So it's only natural to see strong interest in STEM leadership careers among Indian American students, given that their role models include:

Partial list of Indian American Immigrant CEOs
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Satya Nadella: CEO of Microsoft
Sundar Pichai: CEO of Google and Alphabet
Ajay Banga: President of the World Bank Group (previously CEO of Mastercard)
Shantanu Narayen: CEO of Adobe
Sanjay Mehrotra: CEO of Micron Technology
Nikesh Arora: CEO of Palo Alto Networks
Jayshree Ullal: CEO of Arista Networks
Arvind Krishna: CEO of IBM
George Kurian: CEO of NetApp
Laxman Narasimhan: exCEO of Starbucks
Vivek Sankaran: CEO of Albertsons
Anirudh Devgan: CEO of Cadence Design Systems
Leena Nair: CEO of Chanel
Revathi Advaithi: CEO of Flex
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