Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is stupid.

Why is this thread stupid? Do you not believe in the Constitution?

Stay focused and type coherently. Don’t be nasty to people who are actually defending the constitution.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty amazing who you guys will line up to protect. This guy never should have been here in the first place and no judge can change that.

Due process. It is in the constitution. Everyone gets due process in this country. Even the most blatant criminals. Even non-citizens. You and I don’t get to choose who gets their day in court. The constitution is quite clear, and you know this. So do you just not agree with the constitution? Do you not think we need to follow it any longer?

DP. He would get Due Process if he were in the U.S. But he's not.

Some administrative errors cannot be fixed if a sovereign country is involved.

So as long as he can get a plane into international airspace before anyone can get the courts to act, whoever is inside will be El Salvador’s problem.

If the President is acting within his legal authority, then yes he can. As for the current situation, there was an administrative error. Unfortunately, there is no remedy because of the involvement of a foreign government having custody of its own citizen. It seems like folks here want a federal court to order (or enforce an order) the President to exercise his Article II powers, under threat of contempt of court, which the Supreme Court has expressly prohibited.

So where are we now? The El Salvador government will likely provide the US Government with an official notice that the gang conditions existing In 2019 no longer exist. Therefore, any prohibition on removal from the US is now moot. The El Salvador government could also find that he is a member of MS-13 and keep him locked up. That would be the internal affairs of a foreign country in which the US Government - and federal courts cannot interfere.

Then the AEA is unconstitutional. The Court ruled 9-0 that persons being deported have a constitutional right to due process. The administration has shown that administrative errors are real. They are not mere remote possibilities. Since an administrative error leads to an irremediable constitutional violation, the Act fails in its entirety.

Now for this guy. What remedy do you propose? Or are violations of the constitution by the government simply oopsies?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find this very alarming and can't believe it's not getting more attention.

But I guess in Trump world it's just another Tuesday.

I think it's fair to say that this is getting a lot of attention.

DP. Not enough given the level of horror.

[Anonymous]

El Salvador is not a simply a sovereign country in this scenario -- they are a business partner of the US for the acceptance of deportees into Cecot. To say that the US has no standing or leverage to do something here is BS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:2011 (Age 16): Illegally entered the U.S. from El Salvador. Did not apply for asylum upon arrival, despite being of legal age and allegedly fleeing gang threats.

2011–2019 (Ages 16–23): Lived in Maryland without legal status. Never filed for asylum during this entire period.

March 2019 (Age 23): Arrested in Maryland. Only then did he claim fear of gang persecution, citing threats to his family’s store—a claim not previously mentioned and for which there is no confirmation he was involved in the business at all.

2019: Asylum application denied due to being filed too late. Granted "withholding of removal," which is temporary protection—not legal status or a path to citizenship.

June 2019: Married a U.S. citizen shortly after legal options narrowed—raising concerns about the motive and timing.

March 2022: El Salvador began a nationwide gang crackdown under President Nayib Bukele. Over 85,000 suspected gang members arrested.

2024: El Salvador’s homicide rate dropped to 1.9 per 100,000, making it one of the safest countries in the region. The gang threat cited in his claim is no longer considered a valid basis for asylum.

January 20, 2025: President Trump signed Executive Order 14155 to suspend the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program (USRAP), effective January 27, 2025—halting refugee admissions and pausing pending cases.

March 12, 2025 (Age 29): Detained by ICE during a traffic stop and told his immigration status had changed.

March 15, 2025: Deported to El Salvador and imprisoned in the CECOT high-security facility.

April 10, 2025: U.S. Supreme Court ruled the deportation was illegal and ordered the administration to "facilitate" his return.

April 14, 2025: El Salvador’s President Nayib Bukele refused to return him, calling him a "terrorist" and asserting that his legal status is now up to El Salvador's laws.

He was old enough to claim asylum in 2011 but waited until after getting caught in 2019.
His persecution claim was based on an unverifiable threat to a business he may not have even been part of.
El Salvador is now safer, and the gang violence cited in his claim has been dismantled.

This is a good summary everyone should read it

I don't think the guy is a saint--anyone who enters a country illegally is knowingly breaking a law-- but the characterization of his marriage as expedient and sham is hardly a fact belonging in the above list.

Meanwhile, Bukele calling him a "terrorist" is a huge red flag.

[Anonymous]

Watch. Want to bet it’s all planned and he’ll be returned in a few days? Then Trump will paint himself a hero.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is stupid.

Why is this thread stupid? Do you not believe in the Constitution?

Stay focused and type coherently. Don’t be nasty to people who are actually defending the constitution.

Take your own advice because I don’t see any coherent POV coming from you. Only snarky insults.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Watch. Want to bet it’s all planned and he’ll be returned in a few days? Then Trump will paint himself a hero.

How? His supporters don’t want this guy in our country.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2011 (Age 16): Illegally entered the U.S. from El Salvador. Did not apply for asylum upon arrival, despite being of legal age and allegedly fleeing gang threats.

2011–2019 (Ages 16–23): Lived in Maryland without legal status. Never filed for asylum during this entire period.

March 2019 (Age 23): Arrested in Maryland. Only then did he claim fear of gang persecution, citing threats to his family’s store—a claim not previously mentioned and for which there is no confirmation he was involved in the business at all.

2019: Asylum application denied due to being filed too late. Granted "withholding of removal," which is temporary protection—not legal status or a path to citizenship.

June 2019: Married a U.S. citizen shortly after legal options narrowed—raising concerns about the motive and timing.

March 2022: El Salvador began a nationwide gang crackdown under President Nayib Bukele. Over 85,000 suspected gang members arrested.

2024: El Salvador’s homicide rate dropped to 1.9 per 100,000, making it one of the safest countries in the region. The gang threat cited in his claim is no longer considered a valid basis for asylum.

January 20, 2025: President Trump signed Executive Order 14155 to suspend the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program (USRAP), effective January 27, 2025—halting refugee admissions and pausing pending cases.

March 12, 2025 (Age 29): Detained by ICE during a traffic stop and told his immigration status had changed.

March 15, 2025: Deported to El Salvador and imprisoned in the CECOT high-security facility.

April 10, 2025: U.S. Supreme Court ruled the deportation was illegal and ordered the administration to "facilitate" his return.

April 14, 2025: El Salvador’s President Nayib Bukele refused to return him, calling him a "terrorist" and asserting that his legal status is now up to El Salvador's laws.

He was old enough to claim asylum in 2011 but waited until after getting caught in 2019.
His persecution claim was based on an unverifiable threat to a business he may not have even been part of.
El Salvador is now safer, and the gang violence cited in his claim has been dismantled.

This is a good summary everyone should read it

I don't think the guy is a saint--anyone who enters a country illegally is knowingly breaking a law-- but the characterization of his marriage as expedient and sham is hardly a fact belonging in the above list.

Meanwhile, Bukele calling him a "terrorist" is a huge red flag.

He was a minor teenager. I know plenty of my classmates that did “illegal” things as a teen too. Far worse than immigration.

[Anonymous]

If he had never ILLEGALLY come across the border, he would never have been borderline legally sent back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:El Salvador is not a simply a sovereign country in this scenario -- they are a business partner of the US for the acceptance of deportees into Cecot. To say that the US has no standing or leverage to do something here is BS.

This person is a citizen of El Salvador in El Salvador. El Salvador has more standing than the US.

The people calling for the US to charge in and steal him back are likely the same people complaining about the US throwing their weight around and bullying other countries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If he had never ILLEGALLY come across the border, he would never have been borderline legally sent back.

He wasn't even borderline legally sent back. He was sent back ILLEGALLY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:El Salvador is not a simply a sovereign country in this scenario -- they are a business partner of the US for the acceptance of deportees into Cecot. To say that the US has no standing or leverage to do something here is BS.

This person is a citizen of El Salvador in El Salvador. El Salvador has more standing than the US.

The people calling for the US to charge in and steal him back are likely the same people complaining about the US throwing their weight around and bullying other countries.

That is some heavy kool-aid regurgitation there. Is that from Fox or Newsmax?

[Anonymous]

Guess who didn't wear a tie in the Oval Office but wasn't chastised about it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty amazing who you guys will line up to protect. This guy never should have been here in the first place and no judge can change that.

Due process. It is in the constitution. Everyone gets due process in this country. Even the most blatant criminals. Even non-citizens. You and I don’t get to choose who gets their day in court. The constitution is quite clear, and you know this. So do you just not agree with the constitution? Do you not think we need to follow it any longer?

DP. He would get Due Process if he were in the U.S. But he's not.

Some administrative errors cannot be fixed if a sovereign country is involved.

So as long as he can get a plane into international airspace before anyone can get the courts to act, whoever is inside will be El Salvador’s problem.

If the President is acting within his legal authority, then yes he can. As for the current situation, there was an administrative error. Unfortunately, there is no remedy because of the involvement of a foreign government having custody of its own citizen. It seems like folks here want a federal court to order (or enforce an order) the President to exercise his Article II powers, under threat of contempt of court, which the Supreme Court has expressly prohibited.

So where are we now? The El Salvador government will likely provide the US Government with an official notice that the gang conditions existing In 2019 no longer exist. Therefore, any prohibition on removal from the US is now moot. The El Salvador government could also find that he is a member of MS-13 and keep him locked up. That would be the internal affairs of a foreign country in which the US Government - and federal courts cannot interfere.

So then you believe that Trump can disappear anyone he wants without due process. Is that. problem for you or not? I conspicuously don’t see you mention that little detail.

Due Process applies only if he is here, which he is not. Going forward, the Administration will need to follow Due Process, so your argument is moot.