Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.

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He's not an innocent man. He was here illegally, found to be an MS-13 gang member twice. He had a hearing and an appeal. He was under court order to self-deport. He failed to do so. He is a citizen of El Salvador, not the U.S.. The gang he claimed to be threatened by if he returned to El Salvador no longer exists, nor does the overall situation in that country. His removal under US State Department Policy IS a military action and is not subject to judicial review. Understand?


Not one thing you said is true. Not a single one.


Oh, but how wrong you are.
Is it your contention he was here legally?
Is it your contention he is a US citizen?
Is it your contention he is not a citizen of El Salvador?

Everything you said is untrue...every single thing.

He went before an immigration judge in 2019 and was told he cannot be deported to Salvador based on the danger to his life in that country. So if he was to be deported, that was the one country, he was not supposed to be deported to.

So while he is not a US citizen and is yes, a citizen of El Salvador, he was in our country due to the danger to his life. And should not have been deported to that country.

Why shouldn't he be allowed to get due process which is part of the constitution! Remember that document? that is the biggest issue here he should've been given due process. He was snatched off the streets w/out an arrest warrant and then just sent to the one country he was not supposed to be sent to.


DP.

I agree with everything you said, but now what? Does the USA have the authority to force El Salvador to send him back?






Force El Salvador? lol. We’re paying them to keep him there. If we say release him, that’s all they need to hear. They said so themselves. What I’m wondering now is could another country like Canada agree to take him in if the US refuses to take him back? I can’t even believe I’m asking this question and I just am in disbelief what our country has become. It’s so sad.


We can not pay El Salvador to keep one of their citizens in jail. We have no authority to do so. He is in jail IN El Salvador because they want him in jail.

As far as the USA refusing to take him back, that’s already settled. He has a deportation order, he will not be coming back, as he has no right to be here. He was always going to be deported, that has not changed.


This aged poorly.


You realize he’s not coming back to stay right? El Salvador is sending back their citizen to face charges, then he will be deported.


The main point was always that deporting him violated his due process rights and a judge's orders. Trump is not above the law nor is his administration.
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CommonSense wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Why is our military not going there to get this innocent man???????


He's not an innocent man. He was here illegally, found to be an MS-13 gang member twice. He had a hearing and an appeal. He was under court order to self-deport. He failed to do so. He is a citizen of El Salvador, not the U.S.. The gang he claimed to be threatened by if he returned to El Salvador no longer exists, nor does the overall situation in that country. His removal under US State Department Policy IS a military action and is not subject to judicial review. Understand?


Not one thing you said is true. Not a single one.


Oh, but how wrong you are.
Is it your contention he was here legally?
Is it your contention he is a US citizen?
Is it your contention he is not a citizen of El Salvador?

Everything you said is untrue...every single thing.

He went before an immigration judge in 2019 and was told he cannot be deported to Salvador based on the danger to his life in that country. So if he was to be deported, that was the one country, he was not supposed to be deported to.

So while he is not a US citizen and is yes, a citizen of El Salvador, he was in our country due to the danger to his life. And should not have been deported to that country.

Why shouldn't he be allowed to get due process which is part of the constitution! Remember that document? that is the biggest issue here he should've been given due process. He was snatched off the streets w/out an arrest warrant and then just sent to the one country he was not supposed to be sent to.


DP.

I agree with everything you said, but now what? Does the USA have the authority to force El Salvador to send him back?






Force El Salvador? lol. We’re paying them to keep him there. If we say release him, that’s all they need to hear. They said so themselves. What I’m wondering now is could another country like Canada agree to take him in if the US refuses to take him back? I can’t even believe I’m asking this question and I just am in disbelief what our country has become. It’s so sad.


We can not pay El Salvador to keep one of their citizens in jail. We have no authority to do so. He is in jail IN El Salvador because they want him in jail.

As far as the USA refusing to take him back, that’s already settled. He has a deportation order, he will not be coming back, as he has no right to be here. He was always going to be deported, that has not changed.


This aged poorly.


You realize he’s not coming back to stay right? El Salvador is sending back their citizen to face charges, then he will be deported.


The main point was always that deporting him violated his due process rights and a judge's orders. Trump is not above the law nor is his administration.
wrong. He had an order of removal.
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CommonSense wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Why is our military not going there to get this innocent man???????


He's not an innocent man. He was here illegally, found to be an MS-13 gang member twice. He had a hearing and an appeal. He was under court order to self-deport. He failed to do so. He is a citizen of El Salvador, not the U.S.. The gang he claimed to be threatened by if he returned to El Salvador no longer exists, nor does the overall situation in that country. His removal under US State Department Policy IS a military action and is not subject to judicial review. Understand?


Not one thing you said is true. Not a single one.


Oh, but how wrong you are.
Is it your contention he was here legally?
Is it your contention he is a US citizen?
Is it your contention he is not a citizen of El Salvador?

Everything you said is untrue...every single thing.

He went before an immigration judge in 2019 and was told he cannot be deported to Salvador based on the danger to his life in that country. So if he was to be deported, that was the one country, he was not supposed to be deported to.

So while he is not a US citizen and is yes, a citizen of El Salvador, he was in our country due to the danger to his life. And should not have been deported to that country.

Why shouldn't he be allowed to get due process which is part of the constitution! Remember that document? that is the biggest issue here he should've been given due process. He was snatched off the streets w/out an arrest warrant and then just sent to the one country he was not supposed to be sent to.


DP.

I agree with everything you said, but now what? Does the USA have the authority to force El Salvador to send him back?






Force El Salvador? lol. We’re paying them to keep him there. If we say release him, that’s all they need to hear. They said so themselves. What I’m wondering now is could another country like Canada agree to take him in if the US refuses to take him back? I can’t even believe I’m asking this question and I just am in disbelief what our country has become. It’s so sad.


We can not pay El Salvador to keep one of their citizens in jail. We have no authority to do so. He is in jail IN El Salvador because they want him in jail.

As far as the USA refusing to take him back, that’s already settled. He has a deportation order, he will not be coming back, as he has no right to be here. He was always going to be deported, that has not changed.


This aged poorly.


You realize he’s not coming back to stay right? El Salvador is sending back their citizen to face charges, then he will be deported.


The main point was always that deporting him violated his due process rights and a judge's orders. Trump is not above the law nor is his administration.


So... he's back. To face Federal prosecution for some pretty horrible stuff. Not just one or two. But quite a few. I mean I am staggered at the degree of charges involving sexually abusing women and even minors and human trafficking and murder. And this is the man the Democrats wanted to turn into some kind of folk hero in defiance of Trump? Because you couldn't accept an El Salvadoran being deported back to his home country? This was never about "due process." You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it.

I really hope Maryland voters turf out Van Holland.
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CommonSense wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Why is our military not going there to get this innocent man???????


He's not an innocent man. He was here illegally, found to be an MS-13 gang member twice. He had a hearing and an appeal. He was under court order to self-deport. He failed to do so. He is a citizen of El Salvador, not the U.S.. The gang he claimed to be threatened by if he returned to El Salvador no longer exists, nor does the overall situation in that country. His removal under US State Department Policy IS a military action and is not subject to judicial review. Understand?


Not one thing you said is true. Not a single one.


Oh, but how wrong you are.
Is it your contention he was here legally?
Is it your contention he is a US citizen?
Is it your contention he is not a citizen of El Salvador?

Everything you said is untrue...every single thing.

He went before an immigration judge in 2019 and was told he cannot be deported to Salvador based on the danger to his life in that country. So if he was to be deported, that was the one country, he was not supposed to be deported to.

So while he is not a US citizen and is yes, a citizen of El Salvador, he was in our country due to the danger to his life. And should not have been deported to that country.

Why shouldn't he be allowed to get due process which is part of the constitution! Remember that document? that is the biggest issue here he should've been given due process. He was snatched off the streets w/out an arrest warrant and then just sent to the one country he was not supposed to be sent to.


DP.

I agree with everything you said, but now what? Does the USA have the authority to force El Salvador to send him back?






Force El Salvador? lol. We’re paying them to keep him there. If we say release him, that’s all they need to hear. They said so themselves. What I’m wondering now is could another country like Canada agree to take him in if the US refuses to take him back? I can’t even believe I’m asking this question and I just am in disbelief what our country has become. It’s so sad.


We can not pay El Salvador to keep one of their citizens in jail. We have no authority to do so. He is in jail IN El Salvador because they want him in jail.

As far as the USA refusing to take him back, that’s already settled. He has a deportation order, he will not be coming back, as he has no right to be here. He was always going to be deported, that has not changed.


This aged poorly.


You realize he’s not coming back to stay right? El Salvador is sending back their citizen to face charges, then he will be deported.


The main point was always that deporting him violated his due process rights and a judge's orders. Trump is not above the law nor is his administration.


So... he's back. To face Federal prosecution for some pretty horrible stuff. Not just one or two. But quite a few. I mean I am staggered at the degree of charges involving sexually abusing women and even minors and human trafficking and murder. And this is the man the Democrats wanted to turn into some kind of folk hero in defiance of Trump? Because you couldn't accept an El Salvadoran being deported back to his home country? This was never about "due process." You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it.

I really hope Maryland voters turf out Van Holland.


It was always about the deprivation of rights. You can take your fake narrative and shove it.
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CommonSense wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Why is our military not going there to get this innocent man???????


He's not an innocent man. He was here illegally, found to be an MS-13 gang member twice. He had a hearing and an appeal. He was under court order to self-deport. He failed to do so. He is a citizen of El Salvador, not the U.S.. The gang he claimed to be threatened by if he returned to El Salvador no longer exists, nor does the overall situation in that country. His removal under US State Department Policy IS a military action and is not subject to judicial review. Understand?


Not one thing you said is true. Not a single one.


Oh, but how wrong you are.
Is it your contention he was here legally?
Is it your contention he is a US citizen?
Is it your contention he is not a citizen of El Salvador?

Everything you said is untrue...every single thing.

He went before an immigration judge in 2019 and was told he cannot be deported to Salvador based on the danger to his life in that country. So if he was to be deported, that was the one country, he was not supposed to be deported to.

So while he is not a US citizen and is yes, a citizen of El Salvador, he was in our country due to the danger to his life. And should not have been deported to that country.

Why shouldn't he be allowed to get due process which is part of the constitution! Remember that document? that is the biggest issue here he should've been given due process. He was snatched off the streets w/out an arrest warrant and then just sent to the one country he was not supposed to be sent to.


DP.

I agree with everything you said, but now what? Does the USA have the authority to force El Salvador to send him back?






Force El Salvador? lol. We’re paying them to keep him there. If we say release him, that’s all they need to hear. They said so themselves. What I’m wondering now is could another country like Canada agree to take him in if the US refuses to take him back? I can’t even believe I’m asking this question and I just am in disbelief what our country has become. It’s so sad.


We can not pay El Salvador to keep one of their citizens in jail. We have no authority to do so. He is in jail IN El Salvador because they want him in jail.

As far as the USA refusing to take him back, that’s already settled. He has a deportation order, he will not be coming back, as he has no right to be here. He was always going to be deported, that has not changed.


This aged poorly.


You realize he’s not coming back to stay right? El Salvador is sending back their citizen to face charges, then he will be deported.


The main point was always that deporting him violated his due process rights and a judge's orders. Trump is not above the law nor is his administration.


So... he's back. To face Federal prosecution for some pretty horrible stuff. Not just one or two. But quite a few. I mean I am staggered at the degree of charges involving sexually abusing women and even minors and human trafficking and murder. And this is the man the Democrats wanted to turn into some kind of folk hero in defiance of Trump? Because you couldn't accept an El Salvadoran being deported back to his home country? This was never about "due process." You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it.

I really hope Maryland voters turf out Van Holland.


It was always about the deprivation of rights. You can take your fake narrative and shove it.


Ok, so if he’s found guilty of murder and put to death, you’re ok with it right?
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CommonSense wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Why is our military not going there to get this innocent man???????


He's not an innocent man. He was here illegally, found to be an MS-13 gang member twice. He had a hearing and an appeal. He was under court order to self-deport. He failed to do so. He is a citizen of El Salvador, not the U.S.. The gang he claimed to be threatened by if he returned to El Salvador no longer exists, nor does the overall situation in that country. His removal under US State Department Policy IS a military action and is not subject to judicial review. Understand?


Not one thing you said is true. Not a single one.


Oh, but how wrong you are.
Is it your contention he was here legally?
Is it your contention he is a US citizen?
Is it your contention he is not a citizen of El Salvador?

Everything you said is untrue...every single thing.

He went before an immigration judge in 2019 and was told he cannot be deported to Salvador based on the danger to his life in that country. So if he was to be deported, that was the one country, he was not supposed to be deported to.

So while he is not a US citizen and is yes, a citizen of El Salvador, he was in our country due to the danger to his life. And should not have been deported to that country.

Why shouldn't he be allowed to get due process which is part of the constitution! Remember that document? that is the biggest issue here he should've been given due process. He was snatched off the streets w/out an arrest warrant and then just sent to the one country he was not supposed to be sent to.


DP.

I agree with everything you said, but now what? Does the USA have the authority to force El Salvador to send him back?






Force El Salvador? lol. We’re paying them to keep him there. If we say release him, that’s all they need to hear. They said so themselves. What I’m wondering now is could another country like Canada agree to take him in if the US refuses to take him back? I can’t even believe I’m asking this question and I just am in disbelief what our country has become. It’s so sad.


We can not pay El Salvador to keep one of their citizens in jail. We have no authority to do so. He is in jail IN El Salvador because they want him in jail.

As far as the USA refusing to take him back, that’s already settled. He has a deportation order, he will not be coming back, as he has no right to be here. He was always going to be deported, that has not changed.


This aged poorly.


You realize he’s not coming back to stay right? El Salvador is sending back their citizen to face charges, then he will be deported.


The main point was always that deporting him violated his due process rights and a judge's orders. Trump is not above the law nor is his administration.


So... he's back. To face Federal prosecution for some pretty horrible stuff. Not just one or two. But quite a few. I mean I am staggered at the degree of charges involving sexually abusing women and even minors and human trafficking and murder. And this is the man the Democrats wanted to turn into some kind of folk hero in defiance of Trump? Because you couldn't accept an El Salvadoran being deported back to his home country? This was never about "due process." You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it.

I really hope Maryland voters turf out Van Holland.


It was always about the deprivation of rights. You can take your fake narrative and shove it.


Ok, so if he’s found guilty of murder and put to death, you’re ok with it right?


lol, can they prove that he murdered someone? Of course. We are ones that, know you, believe in law and order.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is our military not going there to get this innocent man???????


He's not an innocent man. He was here illegally, found to be an MS-13 gang member twice. He had a hearing and an appeal. He was under court order to self-deport. He failed to do so. He is a citizen of El Salvador, not the U.S.. The gang he claimed to be threatened by if he returned to El Salvador no longer exists, nor does the overall situation in that country. His removal under US State Department Policy IS a military action and is not subject to judicial review. Understand?


Not one thing you said is true. Not a single one.


Oh, but how wrong you are.
Is it your contention he was here legally?
Is it your contention he is a US citizen?
Is it your contention he is not a citizen of El Salvador?

Everything you said is untrue...every single thing.

He went before an immigration judge in 2019 and was told he cannot be deported to Salvador based on the danger to his life in that country. So if he was to be deported, that was the one country, he was not supposed to be deported to.

So while he is not a US citizen and is yes, a citizen of El Salvador, he was in our country due to the danger to his life. And should not have been deported to that country.

Why shouldn't he be allowed to get due process which is part of the constitution! Remember that document? that is the biggest issue here he should've been given due process. He was snatched off the streets w/out an arrest warrant and then just sent to the one country he was not supposed to be sent to.


DP.

I agree with everything you said, but now what? Does the USA have the authority to force El Salvador to send him back?






Force El Salvador? lol. We’re paying them to keep him there. If we say release him, that’s all they need to hear. They said so themselves. What I’m wondering now is could another country like Canada agree to take him in if the US refuses to take him back? I can’t even believe I’m asking this question and I just am in disbelief what our country has become. It’s so sad.


We can not pay El Salvador to keep one of their citizens in jail. We have no authority to do so. He is in jail IN El Salvador because they want him in jail.

As far as the USA refusing to take him back, that’s already settled. He has a deportation order, he will not be coming back, as he has no right to be here. He was always going to be deported, that has not changed.


This aged poorly.


You realize he’s not coming back to stay right? El Salvador is sending back their citizen to face charges, then he will be deported.


The main point was always that deporting him violated his due process rights and a judge's orders. Trump is not above the law nor is his administration.


So... he's back. To face Federal prosecution for some pretty horrible stuff. Not just one or two. But quite a few. I mean I am staggered at the degree of charges involving sexually abusing women and even minors and human trafficking and murder. And this is the man the Democrats wanted to turn into some kind of folk hero in defiance of Trump? Because you couldn't accept an El Salvadoran being deported back to his home country? This was never about "due process." You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it.

I really hope Maryland voters turf out Van Holland.


It was always about the deprivation of rights. You can take your fake narrative and shove it.


Ok, so if he’s found guilty of murder and put to death, you’re ok with it right?


lol, can they prove that he murdered someone? Of course. We are ones that, know you, believe in law and order.


Federal grand jury in Tennessee Kilmar Abrego Garcia of very serious charges, mainly focused on human trafficking and abuse of women. This happened on May 21st. Federal grand jury indictments are rather significant and not done lightly.

I concur this was never about "due process" for the Democrats but trying to owe Trump and it's backfired spectacularly. Kilmar Abrego Garcia already went through multiple appeals and each time his deportation order was upheld, the last one was upheld by the judge who also issued the clause that he couldn't be deported to El Salvador. The "mistake" was sending him to El Salvador, not deporting him. Of course I wonder what kind of game that judge was playing because you can't deport anyone to any random country so what were the other options?

That aside, this entire Democratic mess has now opened up many more questions. How was he allowed to run freely in the US for nine years and leading human trafficking throughout the country while going through the court systems to fight deportation orders. Is that due process? Somehow I think not. He already had plenty of due process and was playing the game of shopping via appeals for a sympathetic judge, and he lucked on one. It was making a mockery of due process.

Irony is that if Kilmar had quietly accepted his initial deportation order he probably wouldn't be facing decades in Federal prison before his final deportation back to El Salvador, where I don't doubt there are more charges he'll face in that country. Because he really is not a nice family man, you know.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is our military not going there to get this innocent man???????


He's not an innocent man. He was here illegally, found to be an MS-13 gang member twice. He had a hearing and an appeal. He was under court order to self-deport. He failed to do so. He is a citizen of El Salvador, not the U.S.. The gang he claimed to be threatened by if he returned to El Salvador no longer exists, nor does the overall situation in that country. His removal under US State Department Policy IS a military action and is not subject to judicial review. Understand?


Not one thing you said is true. Not a single one.


Oh, but how wrong you are.
Is it your contention he was here legally?
Is it your contention he is a US citizen?
Is it your contention he is not a citizen of El Salvador?

Everything you said is untrue...every single thing.

He went before an immigration judge in 2019 and was told he cannot be deported to Salvador based on the danger to his life in that country. So if he was to be deported, that was the one country, he was not supposed to be deported to.

So while he is not a US citizen and is yes, a citizen of El Salvador, he was in our country due to the danger to his life. And should not have been deported to that country.

Why shouldn't he be allowed to get due process which is part of the constitution! Remember that document? that is the biggest issue here he should've been given due process. He was snatched off the streets w/out an arrest warrant and then just sent to the one country he was not supposed to be sent to.


DP.

I agree with everything you said, but now what? Does the USA have the authority to force El Salvador to send him back?






Force El Salvador? lol. We’re paying them to keep him there. If we say release him, that’s all they need to hear. They said so themselves. What I’m wondering now is could another country like Canada agree to take him in if the US refuses to take him back? I can’t even believe I’m asking this question and I just am in disbelief what our country has become. It’s so sad.


We can not pay El Salvador to keep one of their citizens in jail. We have no authority to do so. He is in jail IN El Salvador because they want him in jail.

As far as the USA refusing to take him back, that’s already settled. He has a deportation order, he will not be coming back, as he has no right to be here. He was always going to be deported, that has not changed.


This aged poorly.


You realize he’s not coming back to stay right? El Salvador is sending back their citizen to face charges, then he will be deported.


The main point was always that deporting him violated his due process rights and a judge's orders. Trump is not above the law nor is his administration.


So... he's back. To face Federal prosecution for some pretty horrible stuff. Not just one or two. But quite a few. I mean I am staggered at the degree of charges involving sexually abusing women and even minors and human trafficking and murder. And this is the man the Democrats wanted to turn into some kind of folk hero in defiance of Trump? Because you couldn't accept an El Salvadoran being deported back to his home country? This was never about "due process." You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it.

I really hope Maryland voters turf out Van Holland.


It was always about the deprivation of rights. You can take your fake narrative and shove it.


Ok, so if he’s found guilty of murder and put to death, you’re ok with it right?


lol, can they prove that he murdered someone? Of course. We are ones that, know you, believe in law and order.


Federal grand jury in Tennessee Kilmar Abrego Garcia of very serious charges, mainly focused on human trafficking and abuse of women. This happened on May 21st. Federal grand jury indictments are rather significant and not done lightly.

I concur this was never about "due process" for the Democrats but trying to owe Trump and it's backfired spectacularly. Kilmar Abrego Garcia already went through multiple appeals and each time his deportation order was upheld, the last one was upheld by the judge who also issued the clause that he couldn't be deported to El Salvador. The "mistake" was sending him to El Salvador, not deporting him. Of course I wonder what kind of game that judge was playing because you can't deport anyone to any random country so what were the other options?

That aside, this entire Democratic mess has now opened up many more questions. How was he allowed to run freely in the US for nine years and leading human trafficking throughout the country while going through the court systems to fight deportation orders. Is that due process? Somehow I think not. He already had plenty of due process and was playing the game of shopping via appeals for a sympathetic judge, and he lucked on one. It was making a mockery of due process.

Irony is that if Kilmar had quietly accepted his initial deportation order he probably wouldn't be facing decades in Federal prison before his final deportation back to El Salvador, where I don't doubt there are more charges he'll face in that country. Because he really is not a nice family man, you know.


You glossed right over Trump's 9-0 loss at the Supreme Court...
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Update on Bukele, not Kilmar. The popular Bukele, who once called himself the "world's coolest dictator," is consolidating his power and paving the way to being a permanent ruler.

There's a warning here for all of us about the danger of giving too much political power to one individual.

El Salvador approves indefinite presidential reelection and extends terms to 6 years

The party of El Salvador President Nayib Bukele approved constitutional changes in the country’s National Assembly on Thursday that will allow indefinite presidential reelection and extend presidential terms to six years,” the AP reports.

Observers have worried that Bukele had a plan to consolidate power since at least 2021, when a newly elected Congress with a strong governing party majority voted to remove the magistrates of the constitutional chamber of the Supreme Court. Those justices had been seen as the last check on the popular president.
https://apnews.com/article/el-salvador-nayib-bukele-reelection-f9efd1a08d3c9de2f886f7b911b9417d?taid=688c27a1aafb050001832bd5
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Anonymous wrote:Update on Bukele, not Kilmar. The popular Bukele, who once called himself the "world's coolest dictator," is consolidating his power and paving the way to being a permanent ruler.

There's a warning here for all of us about the danger of giving too much political power to one individual.

El Salvador approves indefinite presidential reelection and extends terms to 6 years

The party of El Salvador President Nayib Bukele approved constitutional changes in the country’s National Assembly on Thursday that will allow indefinite presidential reelection and extend presidential terms to six years,” the AP reports.

Observers have worried that Bukele had a plan to consolidate power since at least 2021, when a newly elected Congress with a strong governing party majority voted to remove the magistrates of the constitutional chamber of the Supreme Court. Those justices had been seen as the last check on the popular president.
https://apnews.com/article/el-salvador-nayib-bukele-reelection-f9efd1a08d3c9de2f886f7b911b9417d?taid=688c27a1aafb050001832bd5

So the American system for 160 years, with six year terms instead of four. Also what is in place in many US states.
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Anonymous wrote:Update on Bukele, not Kilmar. The popular Bukele, who once called himself the "world's coolest dictator," is consolidating his power and paving the way to being a permanent ruler.

There's a warning here for all of us about the danger of giving too much political power to one individual.

El Salvador approves indefinite presidential reelection and extends terms to 6 years

The party of El Salvador President Nayib Bukele approved constitutional changes in the country’s National Assembly on Thursday that will allow indefinite presidential reelection and extend presidential terms to six years,” the AP reports.

Observers have worried that Bukele had a plan to consolidate power since at least 2021, when a newly elected Congress with a strong governing party majority voted to remove the magistrates of the constitutional chamber of the Supreme Court. Those justices had been seen as the last check on the popular president.
https://apnews.com/article/el-salvador-nayib-bukele-reelection-f9efd1a08d3c9de2f886f7b911b9417d?taid=688c27a1aafb050001832bd5


The real moral of the story is that people ultimately will choose living safely under a dictator than living freely and not being able to leave their houses because of the very high chance that they could be murdered, kidnapped, raped, robbed, or extorted.

Gangs controlled El Salvador. Here is a news article from 2015 about a gang deciding to shut down the bus system to show how powerful they were;

Gunmen boarded a bus near the Salvadoran capital and opened fire on its driver and passengers on Wednesday, killing four people including the driver, and wounding four others a week after a string of attacks brought bus service in the country to a halt.

Nine drivers on commuter bus routes in El Salvador have now been killed in a bus “strike” enforced by a faction of the powerful 18th Street gang and which has resulted in an estimated $60 million in losses for the country’s economy.

Word began spreading on the weekend of July 25 that the 18th Street gang was forcibly shutting down bus operations country-wide. Bus drivers were ordered to “strike,” and any driver who went to work risked being killed.


Another article explains that bus drivers who don’t pay extortion fees are also murdered. Since 2006, when attacks on bus drivers surged, 625 have been murdered, according to statistics kept by the industry — including 29 in the first quarter of this year alone.

'I have gone to crime scenes of the murders of fellow drivers. Some of them have been killed for one dollar, because they had the bad luck that they had no money on them at that moment,' Nuila told IPS as he drove along the streets of San Salvador.

There was another bus attack where gangs were feeding and gang members ran onto a bus. Rival gang members poured gas over the bus and set it in fire then shot the passengers who had nothing to do with the gangs as they tried to flee through the windows. 19 people died.

So who wouldn’t vote for Bukele? People are safe to live their lives. Not many in El Salvador care about the conditions in CECOT because they spent so many years being terrorized by gangs.




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Anonymous wrote:Why is our military not going there to get this innocent man???????


He's not an innocent man. He was here illegally, found to be an MS-13 gang member twice. He had a hearing and an appeal. He was under court order to self-deport. He failed to do so. He is a citizen of El Salvador, not the U.S.. The gang he claimed to be threatened by if he returned to El Salvador no longer exists, nor does the overall situation in that country. His removal under US State Department Policy IS a military action and is not subject to judicial review. Understand?


Not one thing you said is true. Not a single one.


Oh, but how wrong you are.
Is it your contention he was here legally?
Is it your contention he is a US citizen?
Is it your contention he is not a citizen of El Salvador?

Everything you said is untrue...every single thing.

He went before an immigration judge in 2019 and was told he cannot be deported to Salvador based on the danger to his life in that country. So if he was to be deported, that was the one country, he was not supposed to be deported to.

So while he is not a US citizen and is yes, a citizen of El Salvador, he was in our country due to the danger to his life. And should not have been deported to that country.

Why shouldn't he be allowed to get due process which is part of the constitution! Remember that document? that is the biggest issue here he should've been given due process. He was snatched off the streets w/out an arrest warrant and then just sent to the one country he was not supposed to be sent to.


DP.

I agree with everything you said, but now what? Does the USA have the authority to force El Salvador to send him back?






Force El Salvador? lol. We’re paying them to keep him there. If we say release him, that’s all they need to hear. They said so themselves. What I’m wondering now is could another country like Canada agree to take him in if the US refuses to take him back? I can’t even believe I’m asking this question and I just am in disbelief what our country has become. It’s so sad.


We can not pay El Salvador to keep one of their citizens in jail. We have no authority to do so. He is in jail IN El Salvador because they want him in jail.

As far as the USA refusing to take him back, that’s already settled. He has a deportation order, he will not be coming back, as he has no right to be here. He was always going to be deported, that has not changed.


This aged poorly.


You realize he’s not coming back to stay right? El Salvador is sending back their citizen to face charges, then he will be deported.


The main point was always that deporting him violated his due process rights and a judge's orders. Trump is not above the law nor is his administration.


So... he's back. To face Federal prosecution for some pretty horrible stuff. Not just one or two. But quite a few. I mean I am staggered at the degree of charges involving sexually abusing women and even minors and human trafficking and murder. And this is the man the Democrats wanted to turn into some kind of folk hero in defiance of Trump? Because you couldn't accept an El Salvadoran being deported back to his home country? This was never about "due process." You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it.

I really hope Maryland voters turf out Van Holland.


It was always about the deprivation of rights. You can take your fake narrative and shove it.


Ok, so if he’s found guilty of murder and put to death, you’re ok with it right?


lol, can they prove that he murdered someone? Of course. We are ones that, know you, believe in law and order.


Federal grand jury in Tennessee Kilmar Abrego Garcia of very serious charges, mainly focused on human trafficking and abuse of women. This happened on May 21st. Federal grand jury indictments are rather significant and not done lightly.

I concur this was never about "due process" for the Democrats but trying to owe Trump and it's backfired spectacularly. Kilmar Abrego Garcia already went through multiple appeals and each time his deportation order was upheld, the last one was upheld by the judge who also issued the clause that he couldn't be deported to El Salvador. The "mistake" was sending him to El Salvador, not deporting him. Of course I wonder what kind of game that judge was playing because you can't deport anyone to any random country so what were the other options?

That aside, this entire Democratic mess has now opened up many more questions. How was he allowed to run freely in the US for nine years and leading human trafficking throughout the country while going through the court systems to fight deportation orders. Is that due process? Somehow I think not. He already had plenty of due process and was playing the game of shopping via appeals for a sympathetic judge, and he lucked on one. It was making a mockery of due process.

Irony is that if Kilmar had quietly accepted his initial deportation order he probably wouldn't be facing decades in Federal prison before his final deportation back to El Salvador, where I don't doubt there are more charges he'll face in that country. Because he really is not a nice family man, you know.



BS Republican BS

He was here legally that is it.

Due process is a thing the constitution says so.

Another POS child molester GOP strategist arrested sex trafficking of a minor .

This week alone 11 Republicans arrested for crimes against children

You boy don the child rapist let the Tates back into this country and your boy is in Epstein’s files.

We live in the US not MAGAdonia you unamerican garbage.
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Anonymous wrote:Update on Bukele, not Kilmar. The popular Bukele, who once called himself the "world's coolest dictator," is consolidating his power and paving the way to being a permanent ruler.

There's a warning here for all of us about the danger of giving too much political power to one individual.

El Salvador approves indefinite presidential reelection and extends terms to 6 years

The party of El Salvador President Nayib Bukele approved constitutional changes in the country’s National Assembly on Thursday that will allow indefinite presidential reelection and extend presidential terms to six years,” the AP reports.

Observers have worried that Bukele had a plan to consolidate power since at least 2021, when a newly elected Congress with a strong governing party majority voted to remove the magistrates of the constitutional chamber of the Supreme Court. Those justices had been seen as the last check on the popular president.
https://apnews.com/article/el-salvador-nayib-bukele-reelection-f9efd1a08d3c9de2f886f7b911b9417d?taid=688c27a1aafb050001832bd5


The real moral of the story is that people ultimately will choose living safely under a dictator than living freely and not being able to leave their houses because of the very high chance that they could be murdered, kidnapped, raped, robbed, or extorted.

Gangs controlled El Salvador. Here is a news article from 2015 about a gang deciding to shut down the bus system to show how powerful they were;

Gunmen boarded a bus near the Salvadoran capital and opened fire on its driver and passengers on Wednesday, killing four people including the driver, and wounding four others a week after a string of attacks brought bus service in the country to a halt.

Nine drivers on commuter bus routes in El Salvador have now been killed in a bus “strike” enforced by a faction of the powerful 18th Street gang and which has resulted in an estimated $60 million in losses for the country’s economy.

Word began spreading on the weekend of July 25 that the 18th Street gang was forcibly shutting down bus operations country-wide. Bus drivers were ordered to “strike,” and any driver who went to work risked being killed.


Another article explains that bus drivers who don’t pay extortion fees are also murdered. Since 2006, when attacks on bus drivers surged, 625 have been murdered, according to statistics kept by the industry — including 29 in the first quarter of this year alone.

'I have gone to crime scenes of the murders of fellow drivers. Some of them have been killed for one dollar, because they had the bad luck that they had no money on them at that moment,' Nuila told IPS as he drove along the streets of San Salvador.

There was another bus attack where gangs were feeding and gang members ran onto a bus. Rival gang members poured gas over the bus and set it in fire then shot the passengers who had nothing to do with the gangs as they tried to flee through the windows. 19 people died.

So who wouldn’t vote for Bukele? People are safe to live their lives. Not many in El Salvador care about the conditions in CECOT because they spent so many years being terrorized by gangs.






If it's as simple and clear as you say, why won't Bukele admit that he made deals with the gang leaders? that he released the absolute worst of the rapists and murderers and allowed them to continue to commit massacres? that he thought up the whole idea of allowing the US to imprison "terrorists" in El Salvador, a deal that he quickly regretted when he realized the Venezuelans were not gang members, just to get back one of the MS-13 gang members who was about to tell the world what a cycnical corrupt man he is?

I mean, if the ends justify the means as you so clearly believe, why is he still denying something everybody knows about?

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Update on Bukele, not Kilmar. The popular Bukele, who once called himself the "world's coolest dictator," is consolidating his power and paving the way to being a permanent ruler.

There's a warning here for all of us about the danger of giving too much political power to one individual.

El Salvador approves indefinite presidential reelection and extends terms to 6 years

The party of El Salvador President Nayib Bukele approved constitutional changes in the country’s National Assembly on Thursday that will allow indefinite presidential reelection and extend presidential terms to six years,” the AP reports.

Observers have worried that Bukele had a plan to consolidate power since at least 2021, when a newly elected Congress with a strong governing party majority voted to remove the magistrates of the constitutional chamber of the Supreme Court. Those justices had been seen as the last check on the popular president.
https://apnews.com/article/el-salvador-nayib-bukele-reelection-f9efd1a08d3c9de2f886f7b911b9417d?taid=688c27a1aafb050001832bd5


The real moral of the story is that people ultimately will choose living safely under a dictator than living freely and not being able to leave their houses because of the very high chance that they could be murdered, kidnapped, raped, robbed, or extorted.

Gangs controlled El Salvador. Here is a news article from 2015 about a gang deciding to shut down the bus system to show how powerful they were;

Gunmen boarded a bus near the Salvadoran capital and opened fire on its driver and passengers on Wednesday, killing four people including the driver, and wounding four others a week after a string of attacks brought bus service in the country to a halt.

Nine drivers on commuter bus routes in El Salvador have now been killed in a bus “strike” enforced by a faction of the powerful 18th Street gang and which has resulted in an estimated $60 million in losses for the country’s economy.

Word began spreading on the weekend of July 25 that the 18th Street gang was forcibly shutting down bus operations country-wide. Bus drivers were ordered to “strike,” and any driver who went to work risked being killed.


Another article explains that bus drivers who don’t pay extortion fees are also murdered. Since 2006, when attacks on bus drivers surged, 625 have been murdered, according to statistics kept by the industry — including 29 in the first quarter of this year alone.

'I have gone to crime scenes of the murders of fellow drivers. Some of them have been killed for one dollar, because they had the bad luck that they had no money on them at that moment,' Nuila told IPS as he drove along the streets of San Salvador.

There was another bus attack where gangs were feeding and gang members ran onto a bus. Rival gang members poured gas over the bus and set it in fire then shot the passengers who had nothing to do with the gangs as they tried to flee through the windows. 19 people died.

So who wouldn’t vote for Bukele? People are safe to live their lives. Not many in El Salvador care about the conditions in CECOT because they spent so many years being terrorized by gangs.






If it's as simple and clear as you say, why won't Bukele admit that he made deals with the gang leaders? that he released the absolute worst of the rapists and murderers and allowed them to continue to commit massacres? that he thought up the whole idea of allowing the US to imprison "terrorists" in El Salvador, a deal that he quickly regretted when he realized the Venezuelans were not gang members, just to get back one of the MS-13 gang members who was about to tell the world what a cycnical corrupt man he is?

I mean, if the ends justify the means as you so clearly believe, why is he still denying something everybody knows about?



The way Bukele governs El Salvador and what he admits or does not admit is not up to you to decide. In June of 2025 El Pais, a respected newspaper from Spain, reported:

One of the most reliable opinion polls in the Central American country gave him an approval rating of 8.5 out of 10.
According to the poll released by LPG Datos, the polling firm of La Prensa Gráfica, Bukele ended his sixth year in power with the approval of 85.2% of the population, his main achievement being the dismantling of criminal gangs and the historic reduction of the homicide rate. Since coming to power in 2019, Bukele has maintained an approval rating above 80%. This is unique in Latin American politics, which is accustomed to leaders’ popularity declining over time.

Biden's popularity was between 36% and 57%.
Trump's popularity has been this term between between 47 and 37%.
Gallop historic reports indicate the average popularity of recent US presidents is nowhere near as high.

Dates in office Average approval rating. %
Harry Truman April 1945-January 1953 45.4
Dwight Eisenhower January 1953-January 1961 65.0
John Kennedy January 1961-November 1963 70.1
Lyndon Johnson November 1963-January 1969 55.1
Richard Nixon January 1969-August 1974 49.0
Gerald Ford August 1974-January 1977 47.2
Jimmy Carter January 1977-January 1981 45.5
Ronald Reagan January 1981-January 1989 52.8
George H.W. Bush January 1989-January 1993. 60.9
Bill Clinton January 1993-January 2001 55.1
George W. Bush January 2001-January 2009 49.4
Barack Obama January 2009-January 2017 47.9
Donald Trump January 2017-January 2021 41.1
Joe Biden January 2021-January 2025 42.2

So obviously how Bukele governs is working for EL Salvadorans not only in El Salvador but also Salvadorans in the United States. Guess which group of migrants from what country still have Temporary Protective Status (TPS) in the US at least until 2026 and can still send remittances to El Salvador? Hmm.

I'll give you a hint:
Venezuela Nicaragua, Syria, Honduras TPS all ending in September 2025

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Update on Bukele, not Kilmar. The popular Bukele, who once called himself the "world's coolest dictator," is consolidating his power and paving the way to being a permanent ruler.

There's a warning here for all of us about the danger of giving too much political power to one individual.

El Salvador approves indefinite presidential reelection and extends terms to 6 years

The party of El Salvador President Nayib Bukele approved constitutional changes in the country’s National Assembly on Thursday that will allow indefinite presidential reelection and extend presidential terms to six years,” the AP reports.

Observers have worried that Bukele had a plan to consolidate power since at least 2021, when a newly elected Congress with a strong governing party majority voted to remove the magistrates of the constitutional chamber of the Supreme Court. Those justices had been seen as the last check on the popular president.
https://apnews.com/article/el-salvador-nayib-bukele-reelection-f9efd1a08d3c9de2f886f7b911b9417d?taid=688c27a1aafb050001832bd5


The real moral of the story is that people ultimately will choose living safely under a dictator than living freely and not being able to leave their houses because of the very high chance that they could be murdered, kidnapped, raped, robbed, or extorted.

Gangs controlled El Salvador. Here is a news article from 2015 about a gang deciding to shut down the bus system to show how powerful they were;

Gunmen boarded a bus near the Salvadoran capital and opened fire on its driver and passengers on Wednesday, killing four people including the driver, and wounding four others a week after a string of attacks brought bus service in the country to a halt.

Nine drivers on commuter bus routes in El Salvador have now been killed in a bus “strike” enforced by a faction of the powerful 18th Street gang and which has resulted in an estimated $60 million in losses for the country’s economy.

Word began spreading on the weekend of July 25 that the 18th Street gang was forcibly shutting down bus operations country-wide. Bus drivers were ordered to “strike,” and any driver who went to work risked being killed.


Another article explains that bus drivers who don’t pay extortion fees are also murdered. Since 2006, when attacks on bus drivers surged, 625 have been murdered, according to statistics kept by the industry — including 29 in the first quarter of this year alone.

'I have gone to crime scenes of the murders of fellow drivers. Some of them have been killed for one dollar, because they had the bad luck that they had no money on them at that moment,' Nuila told IPS as he drove along the streets of San Salvador.

There was another bus attack where gangs were feeding and gang members ran onto a bus. Rival gang members poured gas over the bus and set it in fire then shot the passengers who had nothing to do with the gangs as they tried to flee through the windows. 19 people died.

So who wouldn’t vote for Bukele? People are safe to live their lives. Not many in El Salvador care about the conditions in CECOT because they spent so many years being terrorized by gangs.






If it's as simple and clear as you say, why won't Bukele admit that he made deals with the gang leaders? that he released the absolute worst of the rapists and murderers and allowed them to continue to commit massacres? that he thought up the whole idea of allowing the US to imprison "terrorists" in El Salvador, a deal that he quickly regretted when he realized the Venezuelans were not gang members, just to get back one of the MS-13 gang members who was about to tell the world what a cycnical corrupt man he is?

I mean, if the ends justify the means as you so clearly believe, why is he still denying something everybody knows about?



The way Bukele governs El Salvador and what he admits or does not admit is not up to you to decide. In June of 2025 El Pais, a respected newspaper from Spain, reported:

One of the most reliable opinion polls in the Central American country gave him an approval rating of 8.5 out of 10.
According to the poll released by LPG Datos, the polling firm of La Prensa Gráfica, Bukele ended his sixth year in power with the approval of 85.2% of the population, his main achievement being the dismantling of criminal gangs and the historic reduction of the homicide rate. Since coming to power in 2019, Bukele has maintained an approval rating above 80%. This is unique in Latin American politics, which is accustomed to leaders’ popularity declining over time.

Biden's popularity was between 36% and 57%.
Trump's popularity has been this term between between 47 and 37%.
Gallop historic reports indicate the average popularity of recent US presidents is nowhere near as high.

Dates in office Average approval rating. %
Harry Truman April 1945-January 1953 45.4
Dwight Eisenhower January 1953-January 1961 65.0
John Kennedy January 1961-November 1963 70.1
Lyndon Johnson November 1963-January 1969 55.1
Richard Nixon January 1969-August 1974 49.0
Gerald Ford August 1974-January 1977 47.2
Jimmy Carter January 1977-January 1981 45.5
Ronald Reagan January 1981-January 1989 52.8
George H.W. Bush January 1989-January 1993. 60.9
Bill Clinton January 1993-January 2001 55.1
George W. Bush January 2001-January 2009 49.4
Barack Obama January 2009-January 2017 47.9
Donald Trump January 2017-January 2021 41.1
Joe Biden January 2021-January 2025 42.2

So obviously how Bukele governs is working for EL Salvadorans not only in El Salvador but also Salvadorans in the United States. Guess which group of migrants from what country still have Temporary Protective Status (TPS) in the US at least until 2026 and can still send remittances to El Salvador? Hmm.

I'll give you a hint:
Venezuela Nicaragua, Syria, Honduras TPS all ending in September 2025



You know who else is super popular, PP? Putin!
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